**To Richard** 6 levels for perverse energy

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Richard,

this leads to the other implication in my question: although we agree perverse

energy can enter at any level and progress according to their idiosyncrasy (and

as u rightly say according to the geographic areas, season, symptom), one of the

schools considers that yang ming should be considered as the pivotal layer

between yang and ying, while the other considers it is shao yang.

And this has important implications, beyond the Shan han lun vision, on our

understanding of how to conceive a treatment...

regards

 

 

acudoc11 wrote:

Rather than following any particular school or potentially getting stuck in a

limited thought pattern.......one is better off, especially in modern day

society as mentioned about subclinical condition(s), to incorporate as many

perspectives as possible. It wasn't so much that different schools were adopted

because certain schools believed or thought differently....more of the

differences happened because of different geographic areas and different

signs/symptoms/patterns that presented and often in different seasons. Herbs as

mentioned are

basic, and might be great for some, but those deicisons should be left on an

individual basis.

 

As to the initial attack-in....that's exactly what was alluded to. Not always

the same entry, not always the same progression....but more importantly,

certainly not limited to only TWO ways. That's a result of poor teaching..... by

not correctly and/or completely passing on appropriate information.

 

Richard

 

 

 

> That is interesting, and I'm not a Shan Han Lun 6 stage scholar, so it

> would be great to hear their opinions. But evil can linger in some stages and

> pass right thru others can't it? Also the initial attack when in, doesn't

> always follow the usual illness progression, which is why different syndrome

> differentiation schools were adopted. Is that correct?

> The records of the epidemic history in china, though brutal, have given us

> help and interesting approaches, such as garlic itself being thought to save

> many people during an epidemic that was taking 7 out of ten people. I think

> that record was from @ 5 to 7th century in mid china.

> Another complication, may be that many people already suffer sub-clinically

> from a modern shao yang disorder, manifesting as depression, fatigue, and low

> grade fever, due to liver depression turning to liver qi stagnation, then

> qi stagnation producing a little (liv)heat, that comes and goes (anger,

> crying, bouts of poor digestion), and which like any long term illness, will

rob

> the system of its resources. Chai hu, Ren Shen, and Huang Qi might be used,

or

> Chuan Lian Zi to move qi, relieve liv dep, and clear liv heat. Or am I just

> blowing smoke again? peace,fran

>