What I find interesting about energy healers is...

[Guest guest]

Doc,

I took a guided meditation class in Berkeley last week.

 

The woman came in pretty agitated. It took her a bit to start to settle

down. When she actually got into reading the meditation, her voice grew

calmer. It was pretty obvious she has done this many times and has it

down pretty well.

 

I could not help but wonder what the class could have been like it she

had even taken 3-5 minutes to settling down herself.

 

And I did not make her day any easier. I had planned on being in the

building for about an hour for the class preceding hers so had parked on

the street in a 2 hour parking zone.

 

She told me I could stay if I wanted to. That was a mistake because I

forgot about getting my car off the street within an hour. It turned

into a bit of a mess for both of us. I probably won't stay next time

since her energy jangles and feels uncomfortable to me.

 

She does have great potential with more calmness.

 

Mary Nelson

www.eft4everyone.com

 

docspeed2001 wrote:

> So, group...

>

> What are you conclusions?

>

> This could be interesting and PRODUCTIVE to know.

>

> Especially if you actually CARE about those whom you help.

>

> John La Tourrette, PhD

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc! Interesting post.

 

 

>docspeed2001 <docspeed2001

>Sep 29, 2009 6:42 PM

>

> What I find interesting about energy

healers is...

>

>What I find interesting about healers is, about 50% of them leave the patient

worse off than before...

>

>...and about 50% leave the client off better than before.

 

 

Does part of that have to do with what the person is thinking about as they do

the energy work?

 

Does part of that have to do with the person NOT doing the energy drills on

themselves, not taking care of their own health, aura, etc., sort of like the

old time surgeons who used to have near 100% fatality rate until someone

discovered it was a good idea to wash their hands before doing surgery?

 

 

>

>But in all cases the healer themselves feel better after 15 minutes of running

energy regardless whom or what they were treating.

>

 

This is due to the ego of the healer?

 

Or is it due to " boomerang " effect?

 

 

>The good news is " if the healer first runs energy in a trial practice (like on

their dog) " for 15 minutes, THEN the healing about 75% of the time has positive

favorable results.

>

 

Why would you want to do that to your dog and make the dog worse just so you

could help the other person? I mean, could you instead use one of the

neighbor's delinquent kids? (Just KIDDING)

 

Does it have to be an ANIMATE being? Or would an old pillow work " while

thinking about someone else " ?

 

Or what about a tree, perhaps, that likes to absorb the energies?

 

Or what about a " uni mold " of the president of Iran? (NOT kidding, although

Robert B. Stone would disagree with using that method to get rid of a dictator,

tyrant or bully.)

 

Or could there be a " uni mold " that is for the purpose of " warming up " and that

then " recycles " that energy, in the same way a tree uses human energy

interactions?

 

Is there a significant difference between running energy on the dog vs. the

healer doing the energy drills on themselves for 15 minutes?

 

 

>And in that approximate 25% that do not get better but get worse, the research

shows that the healer was very depressed BEFORE they did the running of energy,

and some of that depression still remained even after the 15 minute practice of

running energy.

>

 

Well, then again, back to the uni-mold of the president of iran...

 

Or if you prefer to be more " loving and caring, " if depression is supressed

anger that the person feels powerless or helpless about, what about FIRST doing

the " I OWN THIS ANGER!!!!!! " drill, noticing if the SUDS goes up or down for

depression and up or down for anger, and doing it until they've finished

" Expelling the venom, " and THEN doing the other energy drills for up to 15

minutes or however long is needed ON THEMSELVES, while also activating the

radiant energies, and then doing the session on the other person?

 

Oh, yeah, and " how else could you use this? "

 

Like if you're going to go out and do energy techniques in social settings or

business settings, find some people to " warm up on " first, and then get in to

the groove? Or could you just have a " uni mold " and practice on it for a few

minutes, then go out and have meetings with clients or whatever other things you

might have in mind?

 

Anyway, is it necessary to do the warmup on an OTHER living being? Or can it be

done with an energy duplicate? Or is it just as effective if the person just

spends 15 minutes correcting their own energies before the session?

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

 

 

>So, group...

>

>What are you conclusions?

>

>This could be interesting and PRODUCTIVE to know.

>

>Especially if you actually CARE about those whom you help.

>

>John La Tourrette, PhD

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

This reminds me of the old saying about hypnosis and " being careful of whom you

let tread in your mind. "

 

 

>

> So, group...

>

> What are you conclusions?

>

> This could be interesting and PRODUCTIVE to know.

>

> Especially if you actually CARE about those whom you help.

>

> John La Tourrette, PhD

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary,

 

Did you notice how isomorphic your post fits the topic that shadow and I are

talking about over on mindmastery-essentialskills?

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

 

 

, M J Nelson <

wrote:

>

> Doc,

> I took a guided meditation class in Berkeley last week.

>

> The woman came in pretty agitated. It took her a bit to start to settle

> down. When she actually got into reading the meditation, her voice grew

> calmer. It was pretty obvious she has done this many times and has it

> down pretty well.

>

> I could not help but wonder what the class could have been like it she

> had even taken 3-5 minutes to settling down herself.

>

> And I did not make her day any easier. I had planned on being in the

> building for about an hour for the class preceding hers so had parked on

> the street in a 2 hour parking zone.

>

> She told me I could stay if I wanted to. That was a mistake because I

> forgot about getting my car off the street within an hour. It turned

> into a bit of a mess for both of us. I probably won't stay next time

> since her energy jangles and feels uncomfortable to me.

>

> She does have great potential with more calmness.

>

> Mary Nelson

> www.eft4everyone.com