Meridians? I know all about them. They don't work.

[Guest guest]

Helen,

 

Great big picture... Could it also be...

 

Answers will come, if you are willing to look... Don't miss the forest for the

trees...

.... or many more " big " picture, Confucius type sayings...

 

Do the big pictures have specific details we should also look for? or not?

 

.... more inserted below, if you care to look...

 

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of Helen Driscoll

> Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:11 PM

>

> Re: " Meridians? I

> know all about them. They don't work. "

>

> Something about showing the horse the water bucket ....?

>

> Helen

>

> > Today, at Costco, I noticed this real skinny woman.

> >

> > It looked that someone had stuck a vacuum cleaner hose up

> her butt and

> > literally sucked the life force out of her, leaving only withered

> > skin, bones and ligaments.

> >

> > I won't even go into the pukey colors.

 

 

Perhaps a concept called calibration or awareness comes to mind. Perhaps

techniques in Hakalau and the Prime versions of that skill might be important

here.

 

> >

> > She noticed me looking at her, and smiled, " howdy Doc,

> how's life been

> > treating you? "

> >

> > I told her, " pretty damn well. Who are you? I don't recognize you? "

> >

> > " I used to work at The Talent Truck Stop restaurant. "

> >

> > I asked her, " How's life been treating you? "

> >

> > Her answer, " I was told 3 weeks ago that I have cancer " .

> >

> > " What are you doing about it? "

> >

> > Her, " I'm going to do alternative methods " , as she shook her head

> > " no " .

> >

 

Are analog motions important in self talk? What does this lack of congruency,

self conflict create? Could that be a cause of the cancer... something to feed

the cancer... something stop action?

 

> > I told her, " Get a book titled Energy Medicine. It'll cost

> about $16

> > bucks and might really give you some important leads to follow " .

> >

 

Here, Doc does not heal her, rather he shares a road map to self healing -- Does

that sound like, " Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish

and he eats for a life time. " ?

 

> > " What's the book about? "

> >

> > " It's about energy. The healing energies of the body and

> how you can

> > use them to heal yourself. "

> >

> > " What type of energy? Do you mean diet? "

> >

> > " Yes, and much more. There are secrets there about Chakras,

> > Meridians... "

> >

> > She interrupts me, " Meridians? I know all about them. They don't

> > work. "

> >

 

Specific limiting beliefs. Does she have a secondary gain from keeping these

beliefs?

 

> > I smiled at her, " glad you already know about them. Stay

> safe now " ...

> >

> > ...and I turned around and walked off.

> >

> > What is this post about?

> >

 

Life.

Death.

Living at Cause.

Being teachable.

Learning to Teach.

Giving options.

Accepting/realizing other's choices are not a reflection of you.

 

.... and so much more... depending on which way you might choose to chunk up,

down, or around...

 

Just my thoughts... what are yours?

 

Greg R.

[Guest guest]

It's interesting, because at some point an ill person has to choose

life or choose death. That could be incremental -- nudge a little one

way or nudge the other. But I think that a person has to choose. And he

or she has to commit to that choice on a profound level. (ok - so I'm

an up-chunker!)

 

Testing for that commitment may be difficult though. That really

requires calibration....

 

Maybe Doc put a bug in her ear. Maybe her first reaction was an out and

out rejection, but maybe at home, later on.....

 

There was the 60 year old Yugoslav guy -- an artist -- who used to

play chess with my ex (also a Serb). The old guy had a heart attack at

the race track, saw the doctor but refused treatment. He came over our

house that night to play chess with Zoran. Zoran tells me what happened

that day. (I was going out with some friends)

I said to the guy he should be in the hospital and he grumped something

or other -- through the cigarette smoke.

 

I asked him if he wanted to live or if he wanted to die.

 

He said he wanted to die. Well, that's it then. He drank wine, smoke

cigarettes and played chess. Then went home and died in his bed.

 

(Zoran was completely surprised - he was under the impression that

chess cures every ill!)

 

This year, Scott's (my husband) uncle had a heartattack. Also a

world-class stubborn guy. (built a 6 story, 2 acre castle out of

railroad tressle and riverrock -- took him 20 years) Refused further

treatment and went home. He was near death and figured that was it. No

one could talk him out of it.

 

He went to live at his wife's house. And he didn't have the worries of

running the castle anymore. (it was turned over to the Glendora

Historical Society) Now, he's almost all better and happy as a clam!

 

So - same situation - two very stubborn guys who suffer extensive heart

muscle death but one really wants to live....he just didn't really know

it for a while... He wanted to live - just didn't want to take care of

the castle...(he only wanted to BUILD it!)

 

The guy who died had some terrible guilt in his heart. I don't know

what it was about, but I just got the sense that he didn't believe he

was worth the air...

 

Maybe the big picture is tough to get in focus, but at some point, the

sick person has to choose...

 

Helen

 

 

 

 

 

On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Greg Radke wrote:

 

> Helen,

>

> Great big picture... Could it also be...

>

> Answers will come, if you are willing to look... Don't miss the forest

> for the

> trees...

> ... or many more " big " picture, Confucius type sayings...

>

> Do the big pictures have specific details we should also look for? or

> not?

>

> ... more inserted below, if you care to look...

>

>>

>>

>> On

>> Behalf Of Helen Driscoll

>> Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:11 PM

>>

>> Re: " Meridians? I

>> know all about them. They don't work. "

>>

>> Something about showing the horse the water bucket ....?

>>

>> Helen

>>

>>> Today, at Costco, I noticed this real skinny woman.

>>>

>>> It looked that someone had stuck a vacuum cleaner hose up

>> her butt and

>>> literally sucked the life force out of her, leaving only withered

>>> skin, bones and ligaments.

>>>

>>> I won't even go into the pukey colors.

>

>

> Perhaps a concept called calibration or awareness comes to mind.

> Perhaps

> techniques in Hakalau and the Prime versions of that skill might be

> important

> here.

>

>>>

>>> She noticed me looking at her, and smiled, " howdy Doc,

>> how's life been

>>> treating you? "

>>>

>>> I told her, " pretty damn well. Who are you? I don't recognize you? "

>>>

>>> " I used to work at The Talent Truck Stop restaurant. "

>>>

>>> I asked her, " How's life been treating you? "

>>>

>>> Her answer, " I was told 3 weeks ago that I have cancer " .

>>>

>>> " What are you doing about it? "

>>>

>>> Her, " I'm going to do alternative methods " , as she shook her head

>>> " no " .

>>>

>

> Are analog motions important in self talk? What does this lack of

> congruency,

> self conflict create? Could that be a cause of the cancer... something

> to feed

> the cancer... something stop action?

>

>>> I told her, " Get a book titled Energy Medicine. It'll cost

>> about $16

>>> bucks and might really give you some important leads to follow " .

>>>

>

> Here, Doc does not heal her, rather he shares a road map to self

> healing -- Does

> that sound like, " Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man

> to fish

> and he eats for a life time. " ?

>

>>> " What's the book about? "

>>>

>>> " It's about energy. The healing energies of the body and

>> how you can

>>> use them to heal yourself. "

>>>

>>> " What type of energy? Do you mean diet? "

>>>

>>> " Yes, and much more. There are secrets there about Chakras,

>>> Meridians... "

>>>

>>> She interrupts me, " Meridians? I know all about them. They don't

>>> work. "

>>>

>

> Specific limiting beliefs. Does she have a secondary gain from keeping

> these

> beliefs?

>

>>> I smiled at her, " glad you already know about them. Stay

>> safe now " ...

>>>

>>> ...and I turned around and walked off.

>>>

>>> What is this post about?

>>>

>

> Life.

> Death.

> Living at Cause.

> Being teachable.

> Learning to Teach.

> Giving options.

> Accepting/realizing other's choices are not a reflection of you.

>

> ... and so much more... depending on which way you might choose to

> chunk up,

> down, or around...

>

> Just my thoughts... what are yours?

>

> Greg R.

>

>

>

>

>

>