Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 The lungs are an air vent allowing the qi AND fluids to descend...therefore in certain cases of constipation....it is because BOTH qi AND fluids do not reach the large intestines properly to make formed feces. Body fluids and qi move together. Anecdotal comment. Western medicine knows (but not why) and often forgets that some unexplained coughing/lung problems are caused by diverticulitis. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2001 Report Share Posted March 26, 2001 +/v8APAAh-DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC +ACI--//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN+ACIAPg- +ADw-HTML+AD4APA-HEAD+AD4- +ADw-META content+AD0AIg-text/html+ADs- charset+AD0-utf-7+ACI- http-equiv+AD0-Content-Type+AD4- +ADw-META content+AD0AIg-MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000+ACI- name+AD0-GENERATOR+AD4APA-/HEAD+AD4- +ADw-BODY bgColor+AD0AIw-ffffff+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-0000ff face+AD0AIg-Bookman Old Style+ACIAPgA8-SPAN class+AD0-260584516-24032001+AD4APA-EM+AD4-OK thanks a lot, I am gonna get the stick closer to the skin. When you are saying 30 passes, I suppose it means for ex. 30 seconds...+ADw-/EM+AD4APA-/SPAN+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-0000ff face+AD0AIg-Bookman Old Style+ACIAPgA8-SPAN class+AD0-260584516-24032001+AD4APA-/SPAN+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-0000ff face+AD0AIg-Bookman Old Style+ACIAPgA8-SPAN class+AD0-260584516-24032001+AD4APA-EM+AD4-Josep.+ADw-/EM+AD4APA-/SPAN+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4APA-IMG align+AD0-absBottom height+AD0-120 src+AD0AIg-file://C:+AFw-WINDOWS+AFw-Application Data+AFw-Microsoft+AFw-Signatures+AFw-Panoramix.gif+ACI- width+AD0-120 NOSEND+AD0AIg-1+ACIAPg- +ADw-BLOCKQUOTE+AD4- +ADw-DIV align+AD0-left class+AD0-OutlookMessageHeader dir+AD0-ltr+AD4APA-FONT face+AD0-Tahoma size+AD0-2+AD4-+ADw-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-+ADw-/B+AD4- Mirva +ACY-amp+ADs- Gye Bennetts +AFs-gyemirva+AEA-acay.com.au+AF0APA-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-Sent:+ADw-/B+AD4- Monday, March 19, 2001 11:15 AM+ADw-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-To:+ADw-/B+AD4- acupuncture+AEA-+ADw-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-Subject:+ADw-/B+AD4- +AFs-acupuncture+AF0- Re: +AFs-acupuncture+AF0- luo points...+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4APA-/FONT+AD7+/wA8ACE-DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC +ACI--//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN+ACIAPg- +ADw-META content+AD0AIg-MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300+ACI- name+AD0-GENERATOR+AD4- +ADw-STYLE+AD4APA-/STYLE+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4-Hello Joseph,+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4-Maybe you di not have the akabani stick closer to the skin.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- I find that my readings are between 10 to 30 passes of a akabani stick.+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4-I hope this helps,+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-008080+AD4-gye+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-BLOCKQUOTE style+AD0AIg-BORDER-LEFT: +ACM-008080 2px solid+ADs- MARGIN-LEFT: 5px+ADs- MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px+ADs- PADDING-LEFT: 5px+ADs- PADDING-RIGHT: 0px+ACIAPg- +ADw-DIV style+AD0AIg-FONT: 10pt arial+ACIAPg-- +ADw-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV style+AD0AIg-BACKGROUND: +ACM-e4e4e4+ADs- FONT: 10pt arial+ADs- font-color: black+ACIAPgA8-B+AD4-+ADw-/B+AD4- +ADw-A href+AD0AIg-jcarrionterapeuta+AEA-teleline.es+ACI- title+AD0-jcarrionterapeuta+AEA-teleline.es+AD4-JCarrion+ADw-/A+AD4- +ADw-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV style+AD0AIg-FONT: 10pt arial+ACIAPgA8-B+AD4-To:+ADw-/B+AD4- +ADw-A href+AD0AIg-acupuncture+AEA-+ACI- title+AD0-acupuncture+AEA-+AD4-acupuncture+AEA-+ADw-/A+AD4- +ADw-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV style+AD0AIg-FONT: 10pt arial+ACIAPgA8-B+AD4-Sent:+ADw-/B+AD4- Wednesday, 7 March 2001 9:25+ADw-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV style+AD0AIg-FONT: 10pt arial+ACIAPgA8-B+AD4-Subject:+ADw-/B+AD4- RE: +AFs-acupuncture+AF0- luo points...+ADw-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4-Hello to everybody...+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4-I tried today the Akabane test, and I was wandering: how many time for each point, because 8 of the 10 points of the hans were heat up to 2 minuts, and nothing, my patient didn't feel it. What about the distance of the tip of the stick from the skin surface over the Jing-well point, and should I wait until he feels heat (heat sensation, warm, burning sensation?) even if it is up to 5 minuts or whatever?+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4-Thanks to all.+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4-Josep.+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4-+ADw-BR+AD4-Ivan +AFs-inandor+AEA-uol.com.br+AF0APA-BR+AD4-Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:04 PM+ADw-BR+AD4-+ADw-A href+AD0AIg-acupuncture+AEA-+ACIAPg-acupuncture+AEA-+ADw-/A+AD4APA-BR+AD4-Re: +AFs-acupuncture+AF0- luo points...+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- geo+ACY-gt+ADs- Another function that the luo points may have is to+ADw-BR+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- correct the +ACI-akabani unbalance+ACI-. When a meredian has+ADw-BR+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- more Qi in one side of the body then the other (measured+ADw-BR+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- through the akabani test), one may puncture the luo point+ADw-BR+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- of the side that has less Qi in order to bring back a balanced+ADw-BR+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- distribuition.+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4-Carol+ACY-gt+ADs- What is the akabani test? (I'm a first year student, apologies if +ADw-BR+AD4-this is common knowledge.)+ADw-BR+AD4APA-BR+AD4-Ivan (-geo-)+ACY-gt+ADs- No problem. Maybe it is not common knowledge for+ADw-BR+AD4-all pt, but it is well known for the 5E pt. The test consists in heating+ADw-BR+AD4-the nail points of the meredians (ting) through a rapid motion of a Japanese+ADw-BR+AD4-incense stick a couple of milimeters above the actual points. 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