ST-36

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This is the general problem with the description and location of most ALL

points. One needs to focus on the 'channel' on one level.........WHICH IS

simply BETWEEN two muscles. And that is why the ancients and many modern

sources state locations very vaguely. I have not re-written ST-36 and with

time permitting - will do so but I believe once you/we see the reasoning here

YOU can do it yourself. Take the example of LU-5. I have stated this before

on another group and maybe here BUT I will repeat it. ALL the texts state

that the point is in the cubital crease - medial to the tendon. But how much

medial? 1/2 ACI, 1 ACI, 1 1/2 ACI???? Therein lies the same discussion. So

here is my very brief rendering of HOW all points should be triangulated

considering that I am not an anatomy specialist. Still you get the idea.

 

Richard

 

 

 

LUNG-05 CHI ZE

 

INCOMPLETELY LOCATED AS:

Located on the cubital crease of the elbow, in the depression at the radial

side of the tendon of biceps brachii.

 

 

MORE ACCURATELY LOCATED:

Located on the cubital crease of the elbow in the depression between the

ulnar edge of the brachioradialis muscle and the radial edge of the flexor

carpi radialis muscle; and radial to both the bicipital aponeurosis and

approximately 1cun medial (TCM anatomical reference) to the biceps brachii

muscle.

 

NOT AT the biceps brachii tendon

and/or

NOT SLIGHTLY medial to the biceps brachii tendon.

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/28/0 9:47:55 AM, inandor writes:

 

<< Dear Gye. I remember that once you asked about the proper

 

localisation of ST-36. Well... it is my turn now :>)

 

 

 

I have been finding ST-36, 3 ACI bellow ST-35 and about ONE ACI

 

lateral to the edge of the tibia. I can even say that the " men " is

 

right there!! But yesterday i gave a look at Worsley's book, and

 

it seems that he doesn't mention this ONE ACI LATERAL thing.

 

 

 

He says: " lateral to the edge of the tibia " . Some practicioners here

(TCM-BRAZIL)

 

find it almost touching the edge of the bone - as depicted in Worsley's book.

In fact,

 

one can find another " depression " there - vey close to the tibia. Does anyone

has

 

any insight regarding this issue?

 

 

Sorry for the " mediocrity " of the question - for some.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Geo >>

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Rich.>This is the general problem with the description and location

of most ALL points. One needs to focus on the 'channel' on one

level.........WHICH IS simply BETWEEN two muscles.

 

Geo> I see, yes. But there is another possibility which is " between a bone

and a muscle " like SI-6 and SI-7 and Spleen -6... So the question then is:

Do you find ST-36 between the two muscles (I dont want to look up the

proper names right now...), or between the tibia and the muscle?

It seems to me, that some pt clearly find it between the bone and the

muscle, whille others tend to locate it between the muscles. When I

questioned an instructor, upon seeing him treat this point, he said: I follow

the same orientation of a Chinnese healer of 5 generation descendence

of practicioners - almost touching the bone. So... here I am...

 

Thanks again...