Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hi! I remember Doc saying that homolateral means the energies are running backwards, and I remember the X and the two lines test. Ok, so I'm at a pizza buffet recently, and a guy is walking with his back facing me, and I see LINES -- a line on either side of him, outside of his body. The lines had " electrical " properties -- light bluish color. I didn't know what it was. Then I noticed he was homolateral. Is that what the two lines meant? Or something else? And when he came back and the front of his body was facing me, I SAW that his spleen meridian was " gone " . In other words, nothing was where the spleen meridian is supposed to be. I do not know if this means that energy just wasn't flowing there, but the impression I got was " his spleen meridian was GONE. " Is this possible for a meridian to be missing? Or is it just clogged / stopped somewhere so nothing is flowing through it? I think I have seen " clogged " and " congested " meridians before, and I've seen some (TW, for example) running backwards, and I've seen a spleen meridian running backwards before, so is it POSSIBLE for a spleen meridian to be completely gone? If so, does that mean the person is screwed? Or can it be fixed? I think I've read or heard someone talking about " ripping out " a person's meridian. Are there ways that sort of thing can be done " naturally " ? And how would you correct that? Can it be corrected with hypnosis and suggestion? Or does it require Energy Medicine techniques? I don't know if it's related to " grid " or not, because Doc has posted before that in order to fix the grid, all the other energies have to be running correctly first. Which means the spleen meridian has to work. How would you fix that? Build a new one with " aka " ? Or is there some other or some better way? The guy is still alive, so it ain't over... Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hi Jim, Before I went to Donna Edens’ seminar I thought homolateral was energy flowing backwards too. And like you, I thought I heard Doc say it in a seminar. I must have been wrong. We all delete, distort and generalize. I find it an amazing coincidence that you and I made the same distortion. When I was talking to another trainer at the seminar she told me that was wrong and explained that homolateral means that energies that normally cross in the body such as neural energy from the brain to the body (left brain to right side and visa versa) were not crossing but running straight down the same side. The energy reversal you are talking about is treated with such drills as the spoon on the foot drill. Or the person lying down and spinning energy into their feet from a distance. There is also re-energizing the crown chakra and many other drills I am sure. Of course, having the petty darned good long term memory that I do I would swear I had heard it the same way as you in a seminar. So I went and asked Doc at the next break and he said verbatim what the other trainer had just told me. I suspect what happened to us was that he went from one topic to the next very quickly in one of his seminars and you and I were left behind with a little temporal lapse that tied those two separate conditions into one in our minds. I suggest you energy test this and see if that fits for you Jim. As to a shut down spleen meridian…I bet his TW was in overdrive too wasn’t it? Glad to know I am not the only one that ever did that distortion, Walter -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of James R. Knippenberg Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:25 PM To: ; psychicclose-encounters Cc: creative_energies Subject: Homolateral " lines " ? Hi! I remember Doc saying that homolateral means the energies are running backwards, and I remember the X and the two lines test. Ok, so I'm at a pizza buffet recently, and a guy is walking with his back facing me, and I see LINES -- a line on either side of him, outside of his body. The lines had " electrical " properties -- light bluish color. I didn't know what it was. Then I noticed he was homolateral. Is that what the two lines meant? Or something else? And when he came back and the front of his body was facing me, I SAW that his spleen meridian was " gone " . In other words, nothing was where the spleen meridian is supposed to be. I do not know if this means that energy just wasn't flowing there, but the impression I got was " his spleen meridian was GONE. " Is this possible for a meridian to be missing? Or is it just clogged / stopped somewhere so nothing is flowing through it? I think I have seen " clogged " and " congested " meridians before, and I've seen some (TW, for example) running backwards, and I've seen a spleen meridian running backwards before, so is it POSSIBLE for a spleen meridian to be completely gone? If so, does that mean the person is screwed? Or can it be fixed? I think I've read or heard someone talking about " ripping out " a person's meridian. Are there ways that sort of thing can be done " naturally " ? And how would you correct that? Can it be corrected with hypnosis and suggestion? Or does it require Energy Medicine techniques? I don't know if it's related to " grid " or not, because Doc has posted before that in order to fix the grid, all the other energies have to be running correctly first. Which means the spleen meridian has to work. How would you fix that? Build a new one with " aka " ? Or is there some other or some better way? The guy is still alive, so it ain't over... Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hey Jim, I don't think you quoted Doc correctly, Homolateral means the energies aren't crossing over and are instead running parallel, straight up and down, in the body. That's why you use the " X " and the parallel lines for the energy tests. Meridian energies running backwards is different. Walking forward will give a weak test if more than half of your meridians are running backwards and walking backwards will give a strong test. You might even feel unusually fatigued when you take a walk if they are backwards. Heck, and I don't even need an energy test to tell me that. You can tap or vigorously massage the K-27s to correct it and that will flip the energies forward again. Often the energies running backwards is just your body telling you to get some sleep. So that's a correction for backwards moving meridian energy too. If you are chronically fatigued, that's another story. Which reminds me,I feel like it's time for my after dinner nap. I wonder what that might have to do with my meridians? Let's see.... As for that guy you saw, if it were possible I'd do the " Energy Tracker " sequence of tests on him to zero in on what the specific energy issues are. Also the vivaxis test, because I remember what a dramatic improvement it made to my energies when Doc discovered my vivaxis was out and he corrected it. For certain right from the start someone like him needs the daily routine, plus some daily spleen strengthening and TW sedating techniques. Maybe someone else can address your question on the grid as I've not learned that energy system....yet. I'm sure having fun with energies in the meantime though :-) Good luck and keep having fun practicing! Lori , " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel wrote: > > > Hi! I remember Doc saying that homolateral means the energies > are running backwards, and I remember the X and the two lines > test. > > Ok, so I'm at a pizza buffet recently, and a guy is walking with > his back facing me, and I see LINES -- a line on either side of > him, outside of his body. The lines had " electrical " > properties -- light bluish color. > > I didn't know what it was. > > Then I noticed he was homolateral. > > Is that what the two lines meant? Or something else? > > And when he came back and the front of his body was facing me, I > SAW that his spleen meridian was " gone " . In other words, nothing > was where the spleen meridian is supposed to be. > > I do not know if this means that energy just wasn't flowing > there, but the impression I got was " his spleen meridian was > GONE. " > > Is this possible for a meridian to be missing? Or is it just > clogged / stopped somewhere so nothing is flowing through it? I > think I have seen " clogged " and " congested " meridians before, and > I've seen some (TW, for example) running backwards, and I've seen > a spleen meridian running backwards before, so is it POSSIBLE for > a spleen meridian to be completely gone? > > If so, does that mean the person is screwed? Or can it be fixed? > I think I've read or heard someone talking about " ripping out " a > person's meridian. Are there ways that sort of thing can be done > " naturally " ? And how would you correct that? Can it be corrected > with hypnosis and suggestion? Or does it require Energy Medicine > techniques? I don't know if it's related to " grid " or not, > because Doc has posted before that in order to fix the grid, all > the other energies have to be running correctly first. Which > means the spleen meridian has to work. > > How would you fix that? Build a new one with " aka " ? Or is there > some other or some better way? The guy is still alive, so it > ain't over... > > Thanks, > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 On 5/23/07, James R. Knippenberg <erommel wrote: > > <snip> > > And when he came back and the front of his body was facing me, I > SAW that his spleen meridian was " gone " . In other words, nothing > was where the spleen meridian is supposed to be. > > I do not know if this means that energy just wasn't flowing > there, but the impression I got was " his spleen meridian was > GONE. " > The first time I saw the energy medicine practitioner who eventually did my grid session, she told me about my " lost " heart meridian. Instead of flowing along the surface of the body like normal, a lost meridian flows deeper in the body. She said that meridians become lost for a variety of reasons (uhm, emotional trauma of a sort was one reason, iirc), and that mine had been lost for a very long time, perhaps even prenatally. Later that year and the next, I spent some time helping my paternal grandmother with her cancer treatments. She was going through the motions of conventional therapy, said something kind of harsh to grandpa, and he started to break down. " wow grandma, that was pretty heartless... " Another time she told me how her mother always had " heart " problems. Then I thought about my dad, who'd always had trouble with ... uhm, heart-meridian related stuff. (it's been a number of years, and I don't exactly remember what the 'symptoms' were). I shared my inherited-lost-meridian theory some months after my grid session. I told how my father always had his " heart meridian " troubles, how my other grandmother was always warm and " grandmotherly " , while my dad's father always came across as " heartless " . (she wasn't, of course - she had her own ways of caring), and my great-grandmother's " heart problems " . She said that it was likely. What's more, Grandma was an only child, and it seems her mother's missing meridian got concentrated in her, while her missing meridian got spread out amongst her three children... So, perhaps this is what you saw. This is all I know about the missing meridian phenomenon, so I hope this helps. -james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 , " M J Nelson " <zpp4everyone wrote: > > Good point, Lori. > > I am pretty sure I have heard Doc say something about energies > running backwards. I don't remember the context. I'll bet it WAS > related to meridians running backwards rather than homolateral, > although homolateral could have been present as well. Hi Mary, Yep, from what Jim described there was a lot going on with this person's energies, chances are he was homolateral and also running backwards, and a few other things. That's why I suggested a series of checks like the " Energy Tracker " as Donna suggests. That way I know with a good deal of confidence what energies are effected and I can zero in on what specifically needs be corrected for. What's really cool is that you can do all of this while at the " Kahuna Mind " either in their physical presence or remotely/covertly. Lori > > Mary Nelson > http://www.eft4everyone.com > > - > " darthon4 " <darthon4 > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:05 PM > Re: Homolateral > " lines " ? > > > : Hey Jim, I don't think you quoted Doc correctly, Homolateral > means the > : energies aren't crossing over and are instead running parallel, > : straight up and down, in the body. That's why you use the " X " > and the > : parallel lines for the energy tests. > : > : Meridian energies running backwards is different. > : > : Walking forward will give a weak test if more than half of your > : meridians are running backwards and walking backwards will give > a > : strong test. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Hi Helen, Great example of how our energies are so easily affected, and a great idea! I would like to do this at my next study group. And I'm betting your arm also dropped when you felt the energy reverse? Lori , Helen Driscoll <helen wrote: > > Lori and Mary, > > We were testing spleen during one of our energy medicine study > groups. I held a weight (arm straight - holding a 10 lb weight). > > Held the weight -- strong. > > Then I put a packet of Sweet & Low right on my spleen -- and I felt > my energy actual reverse up my arm, like a wave! > > > Helen Driscoll > Invitesite.com > 888.349.4684 x106 > helen > > > On May 24, 2007, at 8:55 AM, M J Nelson wrote: > > > Good point, Lori. > > > > I am pretty sure I have heard Doc say something about energies > > running backwards. I don't remember the context. I'll bet it WAS > > related to meridians running backwards rather than homolateral, > > although homolateral could have been present as well. > > > > Mary Nelson > > http://www.eft4everyone.com > > > > - > > " darthon4 " <darthon4 > > > > Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:05 PM > > Re: Homolateral > > " lines " ? > > > > > > : Hey Jim, I don't think you quoted Doc correctly, Homolateral > > means the > > : energies aren't crossing over and are instead running parallel, > > : straight up and down, in the body. That's why you use the " X " > > and the > > : parallel lines for the energy tests. > > : > > : Meridian energies running backwards is different. > > : > > : Walking forward will give a weak test if more than half of your > > : meridians are running backwards and walking backwards will give > > a > > : strong test. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 > Hi! I remember Doc saying that homolateral means the energies > are running backwards, and I remember the X and the two lines > test. > > Ok, so I'm at a pizza buffet recently, and a guy is walking with > his back facing me, and I see LINES -- a line on either side of > him, outside of his body. The lines had " electrical " > properties -- light bluish color. > > I didn't know what it was. > > Then I noticed he was homolateral. > > Is that what the two lines meant? Or something else? > >> Thanks, > Jim > Hi Jim and group, I've been doing a lot of thinkng about being Homolateral and it's something I deal with every day. I know Doc says that you can tell you are Homolateral if you stumble or if you are depressed. Well, I seem to wake up Homolateral. How do I know? Well, I wake up and am just terribly depressed most mornings. Then I've gone to the store, or been out and almost fall. I do the drill to fix it and I know how to fix it but when you are in the midst of being depressed, even though you know what to do, something inside just won't do it. So some mornings it takes a Herculean effort to do the drills. Of course I always feel better but I find I have to do the drill several times a day. My question to the group is this...what is causing me to start the day Homolateral? I thought I might try putting 2 pieces of wood under my bed in an X pattern and see if this would help. I remember Donna talking about magnets on the corners of the bed but I don't remember what that was supposed to help. Maybe I should try painting a big X on the ceiling over my bed. Course that's kinda funny thinking about someone coming into the bedroom going...what's that all about? I can imagine what my cleaning lady might think. If anyone has a better solution, let me know. Thanks Lillie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Lillie, It is an interesting idea of putting 2 pieces of wood under your bed in an X. Why not give it a try and let us know if you notice any results and what they are. I love the image of your cleaning lady spotting a big X on the ceiling over your bed. I wonder what she might think and smile as I ask the question? James Bond, anyone? Also, when you are feeling depressed, raise your eyes up a bit and center and hold for as long as it feels right to you. I know that has helped me when I get on a downward spiral. Sometimes I am also drawn to move the eyes either to the right or to the left while still looking up. Remember the K27s also. Doc loves those points and usually says to go deep. When you are doing the homolateral drills it might help to start with the homolateral cross crawl (right hand with right leg, left hand with left leg). Then do the regular cross crawl. Mary Nelson http://www.eft4everyone.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Hi Lillie, et. al. Are you doing the homolateral repatterning drill? I also do remember Donna talking about her having to use magnets, on the corners of her bed or under her bed, for her sensitivity to energy, and that mattresses with springs really bothered her too. I really need to finish transcribing my audio tapes and see if I can find out exactly what she said. I thought we were supposed to get DVD's of the 5-day too (?). I'm sometimes really sensitive to energies in certain buildings and hotel rooms I stay at or when I travel. Like that neat old hotel I stayed at in Santa Fe during the 5-day with all of those overhead wood beams. So certain styles of architecture and structures or shapes can have an effect it seems. It took a few days of me doing the homolateral repatterning drills plus some extra grounding drills, plus my daily routine to begin to feel " normal " again and regain my energy. By then it was time to check out of the hotel. At least I know what I have to do to correct for it or can figure it out with some energy tests. I just wonder if there could have been a quicker way, like maybe the magnets, for people who do a lot of travel. I'm finding too that the more I do my energy drills the more easy it is for me to handle the different energies of my environment. Lori BTW, I found this article: http://innersource.net/energy_medicine_faq/energy_medicine_QA_magnets.htm , " lfr3_2004 " <lillie wrote: > > > > Hi! I remember Doc saying that homolateral means the energies > > are running backwards, and I remember the X and the two lines > > test. > > > > Ok, so I'm at a pizza buffet recently, and a guy is walking with > > his back facing me, and I see LINES -- a line on either side of > > him, outside of his body. The lines had " electrical " > > properties -- light bluish color. > > > > I didn't know what it was. > > > > Then I noticed he was homolateral. > > > > Is that what the two lines meant? Or something else? > > > >> Thanks, > > Jim > > > > Hi Jim and group, > I've been doing a lot of thinkng about being Homolateral and it's > something I deal with every day. > > I know Doc says that you can tell you are Homolateral if you stumble > or if you are depressed. Well, I seem to wake up Homolateral. How do > I know? Well, I wake up and am just terribly depressed most mornings. > > Then I've gone to the store, or been out and almost fall. > > I do the drill to fix it and I know how to fix it but when you are in > the midst of being depressed, even though you know what to do, > something inside just won't do it. > > So some mornings it takes a Herculean effort to do the drills. Of > course I always feel better but I find I have to do the drill several > times a day. > > My question to the group is this...what is causing me to start the > day Homolateral? I thought I might try putting 2 pieces of wood > under my bed in an X pattern and see if this would help. > > I remember Donna talking about magnets on the corners of the bed but > I don't remember what that was supposed to help. > > Maybe I should try painting a big X on the ceiling over my bed. > Course that's kinda funny thinking about someone coming into the > bedroom going...what's that all about? I can imagine what my cleaning > lady might think. > If anyone has a better solution, let me know. > > Thanks > Lillie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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