Tubal ligation

[Guest guest]

Good afternoon to all:)!

 

I can affirm this first hand! I had my tubal ligation in 1988 when they did

my third c-section.

 

We were in Italy as my husband was stationed there. Within four months my

PTS was so bad that my base doctor told me he thought I had PTS, before then

he was not putting a name to it, and they were willing to send me to the U.S

Army's Women's Medical Dept. At the U.S. Base hospital in Wiesbaden,

Germany...the Stork's Nest was the nickname, TO UNDO the surgery and

reconnect the tubes. My husband had a livid fit and refused. The Dr. Said he

(my husband) could get a vasectomy and he said no way in hell was he doing

that...that what was done and was done and I would have to live with it..

this is a decision I have regretted ever since. We divorced in 1991.

 

I have had problems ever since Aug. 1988, when it was done...my periods were

very regular outside of my being pregnant before then...but after that they

never were...and now, though it is probably not really related, I I have

been diagnosed with multiple fibroid tumors after almost 8 years of problems

that have slowly gotten a bit worse each year. I will not take their Provera

medicine, and they want me to have a hysterectomy AND they want to remove my

ovaries at the same time they remove my uterus..even though the tests,

including Trans-vaginal ultrasound, show they are very healthy. I will not

let them do this to me as it will throw me into immediate menopause...they

say they have meds for that...My mom is a 7 year survivor of breast cancer

that her family doctor as well as her surgeon told her was result of being

on HRT for almost 15 years...she was 49 at diagnoses, and 34 when they did

the hysterectomy for fibroid tumors on her. Get this...my OBGYN said that it

was not possible, based on a new 7yr. Study, to get cancer from HRT meds...I

told him she was a 7 year survivor and that her surgeon and her family

doctor (I named them and he knew the surgeon, as he is well respected in our

area) said it was based on tests they did that they made that determination.

..then, when I kindly was insistent and let him know I did not believe him,

he asked me how long she took them...I told him...then he said there was no

way of telling how almost ANY drug would affect the body after 15 years. Of

continual use and he conceded it was possible. Finally, I broke down and

told him (when he started the doctor spiel about the Provera, insisting I

did not understand medicine) that I was a C.M.A. And had passed meds for

nine years and I told him that to be a C.M.A. We had to take pharmaceutical

courses as well as a bit of basic anatomy...and that each of the two places

I worked at passing meds during those nine years required us to get a PDR

every year of our own, just like he had on his desk. He looked a bit

exasperated at that point...not mad, just like he was out of options...LOL,

they say medical people and most especially doctors are the most difficult

patients in the world...LOL, I am one and I know it. Anyway, he tell me

that he will give a hormone pill to me, progesterone...I say it HAS to a

natural form of progesterone...he hesitated just a moment then told me this

was not Provera and to just take it...that it was only 10 pills a month and

if it did not work, we would have to see about surgery anyway. Then as I was

leaving he actually told me in a really kind way to do myself a favor and to

NOT READ the medicine insert. Ok...I go to Walgreens and fill it...I ask the

pharmacist when I pick it up if it is all natural...he looked and said no,

we have no all natural hormones available here...I was so upset...I

explained why...then he told me what I wanted was a licensed pharmacist who

specialized in all natural bio-compounds and he put me in touch with one an

hour away in Jackson TN. THAT pharmacist was really appalled that my doctor

wanted to put me on a hormone based on an ultrasound and NOT on my bodies

levels...see, I keep telling the doctors here for two years now I think part

of the problem is I have started going into menopause...anyway, I know it is

a long process...not a one night deal (unless I let them take my uterus..

All of this was ion January of this year. We are self employed with no

health insurance, and I can't afford the surgery anyway...but even if I

could, I don't want it. Also, they are talking about possible blood

transfusions due to severe bleeding during my menses every 3-4 month, and

very severe anemia. I have a cycle for the last two years...One month will

be real light and short, second month a little heavier but still really

normal, their month will be either bit heavier with some small clotting or

very, heavy profuse bleeding with a lot of large clots and I get dizzy and

am sleepy ALL the time I am on it and I flood through everything and wear

pads and tampons at the same time and can't leave the house...no joke. If

the third month is not bad then the fourth one will be...then the cycle

starts all over. The OBGYN my family doctor referred me to told me I am so

anemic that I have to take iron pills to build my blood up because I am so

anemic the hemoglobin has also become affected.,..well, I can't tolerate the

iron tablets, they make me sick and constipated and and when I have taken

them they never helped much and the doctors I dealt with in the past told me

that some people don't absorb them as they are not in a natural form...I had

an Italian doctor tell me to drink 4-6 ounces daily of a dark red medicinal

wine during last three months each of my last two pregnancies...he said this

small amount would not hurt the baby or me and would help me absorb iron

better since the wine was a natural source of vitamin C and also had other

health benefits. I talked to my American base doctor who actually AGREED...I

was blown away and so was my husband because this is NOT what is taught

state-side at all...not even in the 1980's. Anyway....the proof was in the

pudding because it did work!!!! My anemia improved dramatically. Also, when

passing meds some of the Doctors in Paducah prescribed wine for their

patients at bedtime, once again 4-6 ounces only to treat anemia and it

worked. THIS DOCTOR I saw in January said there was no way it worked....he

said the only thing to help iron is the pills...bullcrap...I have started

back on my " medicnal wine " (I am not crazy about the flavor..LOL) AND I am

taking 2 tablespoons daily of Unsulfered Blackstrap Molasses (taste is

tolerable to me in these small amounts...LOL) and the wine daily and I am

feeling tons better...still bleeding bad, like last month, to be sure, but

the anemia is not so bad as it was.

 

OKAY!!!! I got a load of mind that this time...I am just frustrated and I

know there is a better way to treat myself...my MOM is living proof...please

check out her Personal story at her bakery web site at http://www

peggyskitchen.com , just click on " Peggy's Personal Story " link

http://peggyskitchen.com/id17.html of the navigation bar at the top of the

page...there IS a better way to deal with breats cancer, fibroid tumors and

most any other illness...take courage and take charge of your health...it is

YOUR body, not your doctor's not your mates...YOURS!

 

(((HUGS))) and Blessings~Gloria in Tennessee

 

" Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family: Whatever

you call it, whoever you are, you need one. " ~Jane Howard

[Guest guest]

Gloria, your story makes me so angry with

most doctors. I firmly believe we

have to take our healthcare into our own hands. I would recommend finding a certified

natural health practitioner. In

addition, I highly recommend Hallelujah Acres (www.hacres.com)

and Juice Plus (www.juiceplus.com/+kw29062) . Your mom’s

story is amazing and she is an amazing person. God bless.

 

Kathy in Florida

Author of How I

Survived My Doctors’ Care

Available at www.familytalents.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of The Suttons

Thursday, March 30, 2006

6:10 PM

To:

 

Re:

Tubal Ligation

 

Good afternoon to all:)!

 

I can affirm this first hand! I had my tubal ligation

in 1988 when they did

my third c-section.

 

We were in Italy as my husband was stationed

there. Within four months my

PTS was so bad that my base doctor told me he

thought I had PTS, before then

he was not putting a name to it, and they were

willing to send me to the U.S

Army's Women's Medical Dept. At the U.S. Base

hospital in Wiesbaden,

Germany...the Stork's Nest was the nickname, TO

UNDO the surgery and

reconnect the tubes. My husband had a livid fit

and refused. The Dr. Said he

(my husband) could get a vasectomy and he said no

way in hell was he doing

that...that what was done and was done and I would

have to live with it..

this is a decision I have regretted ever since. We

divorced in 1991.

 

I have had problems ever since Aug. 1988, when it

was done...my periods were

very regular outside of my being pregnant before

then...but after that they

never were...and now, though it is probably not

really related, I I have

been diagnosed with multiple fibroid tumors after

almost 8 years of problems

that have slowly gotten a bit worse each year. I

will not take their Provera

medicine, and they want me to have a hysterectomy

AND they want to remove my

ovaries at the same time they remove my

uterus..even though the tests,

including Trans-vaginal ultrasound, show they are

very healthy. I will not

let them do this to me as it will throw me into

immediate menopause...they

say they have meds for that...My mom is a 7 year

survivor of breast cancer

that her family doctor as well as her surgeon told

her was result of being

on HRT for almost 15 years...she was 49 at

diagnoses, and 34 when they did

the hysterectomy for fibroid tumors on her. Get

this...my OBGYN said that it

was not possible, based on a new 7yr. Study, to

get cancer from HRT meds...I

told him she was a 7 year survivor and that her

surgeon and her family

doctor (I named them and he knew the surgeon, as

he is well respected in our

area) said it was based on tests they did that

they made that determination.

..then, when I kindly was insistent and let him

know I did not believe him,

he asked me how long she took them...I told

him...then he said there was no

way of telling how almost ANY drug would affect

the body after 15 years. Of

continual use and he conceded it was

possible. Finally, I broke down and

told him (when he started the doctor spiel about

the Provera, insisting I

did not understand medicine) that I was a C.M.A.

And had passed meds for

nine years and I told him that to be a C.M.A. We

had to take pharmaceutical

courses as well as a bit of basic anatomy...and

that each of the two places

I worked at passing meds during those nine years

required us to get a PDR

every year of our own, just like he had on his

desk. He looked a bit

exasperated at that point...not mad, just like he

was out of options...LOL,

they say medical people and most especially

doctors are the most difficult

patients in the world...LOL, I am one and I know

it. Anyway, he tell me

that he will give a hormone pill to me,

progesterone...I say it HAS to a

natural form of progesterone...he hesitated just a

moment then told me this

was not Provera and to just take it...that it was

only 10 pills a month and

if it did not work, we would have to see about

surgery anyway. Then as I was

leaving he actually told me in a really kind way

to do myself a favor and to

NOT READ the medicine insert. Ok...I go to

Walgreens and fill it...I ask the

pharmacist when I pick it up if it is all

natural...he looked and said no,

we have no all natural hormones available here...I

was so upset...I

explained why...then he told me what I wanted was

a licensed pharmacist who

specialized in all natural bio-compounds and he

put me in touch with one an

hour away in Jackson TN. THAT pharmacist was

really appalled that my doctor

wanted to put me on a hormone based on an ultrasound

and NOT on my bodies

levels...see, I keep telling the doctors here for

two years now I think part

of the problem is I have started going into

menopause...anyway, I know it is

a long process...not a one night deal (unless I

let them take my uterus..

All of this was ion January of this year. We are

self employed with no

health insurance, and I can't afford the

surgery anyway...but even if I

could, I don't want it. Also, they are talking

about possible blood

transfusions due to severe bleeding during my

menses every 3-4 month, and

very severe anemia. I have a cycle for the last

two years...One month will

be real light and short, second month a little

heavier but still really

normal, their month will be either bit heavier

with some small clotting or

very, heavy profuse bleeding with a lot of large

clots and I get dizzy and

am sleepy ALL the time I am on it and I flood

through everything and wear

pads and tampons at the same time and can't leave

the house...no joke. If

the third month is not bad then the fourth one

will be...then the cycle

starts all over. The OBGYN my family doctor

referred me to told me I am so

anemic that I have to take iron pills to build my

blood up because I am so

anemic the hemoglobin has also become

affected.,..well, I can't tolerate the

iron tablets, they make me sick and constipated

and and when I have taken

them they never helped much and the doctors I

dealt with in the past told me

that some people don't absorb them as they are not

in a natural form...I had

an Italian doctor tell me to drink 4-6 ounces

daily of a dark red medicinal

wine during last three months each of my last two

pregnancies...he said this

small amount would not hurt the baby or me and

would help me absorb iron

better since the wine was a natural source of vitamin

C and also had other

health benefits. I talked to my American base

doctor who actually AGREED...I

was blown away and so was my husband because this

is NOT what is taught

state-side at all...not even in the 1980's.

Anyway....the proof was in the

pudding because it did work!!!! My anemia improved

dramatically. Also, when

passing meds some of the Doctors in Paducah

prescribed wine for their

patients at bedtime, once again 4-6 ounces only to

treat anemia and it

worked. THIS DOCTOR I saw in January said there

was no way it worked....he

said the only thing to help iron is the

pills...bullcrap...I have started

back on my " medicnal wine " (I am not

crazy about the flavor..LOL) AND I am

taking 2 tablespoons daily of Unsulfered

Blackstrap Molasses (taste is

tolerable to me in these small amounts...LOL) and

the wine daily and I am

feeling tons better...still bleeding bad, like

last month, to be sure, but

the anemia is not so bad as it was.

 

OKAY!!!! I got a load of mind that this time...I

am just frustrated and I

know there is a better way to treat myself...my

MOM is living proof...please

check out her Personal story at her bakery web

site at http://www

peggyskitchen.com , just click on

" Peggy's Personal Story " link

http://peggyskitchen.com/id17.html

of the navigation bar at the top of the

page...there IS a better way to deal with breats

cancer, fibroid tumors and

most any other illness...take courage and take

charge of your health...it is

YOUR body, not your doctor's not your

mates...YOURS!

 

(((HUGS))) and Blessings~Gloria in Tennessee

 

" Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a

tribe, call it a family: Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need

one. " ~Jane Howard

[Guest guest]

, " rizil35 " <rizil35

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know of a way that a woman could join her tubes back together

through meditation or some other technique(s) besides getting a tubal

reversal?If there is anyone out there that can help,please do.

>

 

Why are you ruling out a tubal reversal?

 

Its not expensive and it's very simple and it does work in most cases.

 

Barbara

[Guest guest]

, " barbara101ann "

<barbara101ann wrote:

>

> , " rizil35 " <rizil35@>

wrote:

> >

> > Does anyone know of a way that a woman could join her tubes back together

through meditation or some other technique(s) besides getting a tubal

reversal?If there is anyone out there that can help,please do.

> >

>

> Why are you ruling out a tubal reversal?

>

> Its not expensive and it's very simple and it does work in most cases.

>

> Barbara

>

It would be lovely to avoid having surgery! Are there any other techniques out

there that could help through meditation or some other way? If anyone knows of

anything I would really appreciate if you would share it with me. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

, " rizil35 " <rizil35

wrote:

>

> , " barbara101ann "

<barbara101ann@> wrote:

> >

> > , " rizil35 " <rizil35@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Does anyone know of a way that a woman could join her tubes back together

through meditation or some other technique(s) besides getting a tubal

reversal?If there is anyone out there that can help,please do.

> > >

> >

> > Why are you ruling out a tubal reversal?

> >

> > Its not expensive and it's very simple and it does work in most cases.

> >

> > Barbara

> >

> It would be lovely to avoid having surgery! Are there any other techniques out

there that could help through meditation or some other way? If anyone knows of

anything I would really appreciate if you would share it with me. Thank you.

>

 

I will pray for you to open up the channels of light to the seventh plane so

that your tubes are clear and functional. we need no surgery when we have access

to God and she is on our side.

 

Susan