Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 On Nov 21, 2003, at 10:43 AM, thisismanuforall wrote: > Doctor was suggesting he would be sure for complete tear of the > ligament only during the surgery. My question is, Is there any > process by which I can check for the condition of my ACL before > actual surgery? I'm not an orthopedics guy and this question really needs to be answered by someone with experience in diagnostic imaging and/or physical examination. However, if there is no way to know how profound the tear in the ACL is until you've been opened up, you might try addressing it with acupuncture. If the problem goes away, then the ACL tear wasn't complete. If it doesn't work, then go to the surgeon. Get ten treatments before making this assessment. My first patient in school had this same problem and we found that acupuncture worked very well for him. I tell people now that I " majored in knee " in acupuncture school. : ) -al. -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. -Adlai Stevenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Could they perform an endoscopic inspection ? Frederic thisismanuforall wrote: > I injured my knee three weeks back & had my MRI done 10 days back & > all doctors & analyst suggest that I have a probable tear of my ACL > (Anterior Cruciate Ligament). Although I have fixed an appointment > for it grafting surgery next week but I have some doubt, did I really > have a complete tear of my ACL. > > My leg movement has been improving since the date of my injury. > Although it made a loud crackle noise during my injury & had swelling > in the knee but I never had any pain in my knee unless I fold it. It > does pose some instability while moving around or twisting. > > Doctor was suggesting he would be sure for complete tear of the > ligament only during the surgery. My question is, Is there any > process by which I can check for the condition of my ACL before > actual surgery? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 No. Even MRI examination can be somewhat less than conclusive. Yes, it is often not really painful after the initial swelling subsides, and yes it does leave the knee joint less stable. To test the integrity of the ACL, lay on your back with the knee bent at about 45 to 60 degrees. Have a second party pull forward on the lower leg just below the knee and see how " springy " the action is. compare both legs. If the damaged knee seems to move further and have more " play " , then you have either stretched, partially torn, or perhaps fully torn your ACL. This point is probably mute, because the orthopedist has likely already done this manuever. If it were me, I would hold off on the surgery if you can. Unless you are a professional athlete, or are someone who is involved in sports where you run,jump, and have to make sudden cutting type movements, you may be able to function even without the ACL. The bulk of your knee stability comes from the muscles and not the ligaments. An aggressive rehab and strengthening program might be an alternative. Ask your doctor about the what if you do and what if you don't have surgery. Good luck. I opted against surgery for a full meniscal tear and have been fine for 25 years. Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 I'm more western herbilist and self educating in TCM. I would look into Collatrim, Comfery (knitbone) and essential oil of Helichrysum these may help al stone <alstone wrote: On Nov 21, 2003, at 10:43 AM, thisismanuforall wrote: > Doctor was suggesting he would be sure for complete tear of the > ligament only during the surgery. My question is, Is there any > process by which I can check for the condition of my ACL before > actual surgery? I'm not an orthopedics guy and this question really needs to be answered by someone with experience in diagnostic imaging and/or physical examination. However, if there is no way to know how profound the tear in the ACL is until you've been opened up, you might try addressing it with acupuncture. If the problem goes away, then the ACL tear wasn't complete. If it doesn't work, then go to the surgeon. Get ten treatments before making this assessment. My first patient in school had this same problem and we found that acupuncture worked very well for him. I tell people now that I " majored in knee " in acupuncture school. : ) -al. -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. -Adlai Stevenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Dr. said he'll put small cut on my knee and insert some optical equipment inside to inspect & if he finds that the ligament is not strong enough or is completely torn then he will continue with the surgery. Chinese Traditional Medicine , frederic <fredlecut@e...> wrote: > Could they perform an endoscopic inspection ? > Frederic > > > thisismanuforall wrote: > > > I injured my knee three weeks back & had my MRI done 10 days back & > > all doctors & analyst suggest that I have a probable tear of my ACL > > (Anterior Cruciate Ligament). Although I have fixed an appointment > > for it grafting surgery next week but I have some doubt, did I really > > have a complete tear of my ACL. > > > > My leg movement has been improving since the date of my injury. > > Although it made a loud crackle noise during my injury & had swelling > > in the knee but I never had any pain in my knee unless I fold it. It > > does pose some instability while moving around or twisting. > > > > Doctor was suggesting he would be sure for complete tear of the > > ligament only during the surgery. My question is, Is there any > > process by which I can check for the condition of my ACL before > > actual surgery? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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