No! It's NOT the Triple Warmer's fault.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Doc. It is really important to remember that TW is not the

enemy. Phrasing it as "not it's fault" helps with that. It is indeed

our decisions and lack of attention to what we need that needs to

be looked at as well.

Sue

 

 

 

The physical conditions that have come upon me are those most necessary for my own soul's development. (716-1) 

Edgar Cayce

[Guest guest]

Doc,

 

Thank you so much for this very Informative and mind

opening post. It came just when I needed it. It helped me so much

that I am becoming aware of my thoughts that are causing my Triple

warmer to become frozen. I used another drill that you taught on Demon

States of Genius to get down to brass tacks so to speak. I took myself

out of the " tornado " of emotions and stepped outside of it( or rather

it stepped out of me!) and noticed what I noticed about it. There

was a gold mine of information there waiting for me to notice.

Paying attention seems to be the key to any energy work. Now that I

know that I know what really is going on.. I can do something

about it.

 

Doc, I love the way you teach! That one drill that was used for

Anger helped me find so many beagles! . it works on so much more. Yes

the " What else can I do with this " saved the day again.

 

 

Thanks again Doc!!!!!!

 

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 8/28/06, kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sue, I loved your response, very good. Move down the page and

I'll throw in my comments as they occur to me.

 

--- Sue wrote:

> This is classic TW/SP. You can throw yourself into overdrive

>with TW and you don't know how to regulate your energy until you're

>almost dead.

 

I learned a long time ago to leave a portion of EVERY DAY for me,

doing what I LIKE DOING, and NOT doing what others want me to do for

them!

 

My point being, even if I did the Donna Drills and still focused on

what others wanted and enjoyed, and ignored what I wanted and

enjoyed, the Donna Drills DID NOT WORK for more than a minute or two.

 

> Then you have to go through a recovery period. Been there, done

>that. Often.

 

Many of us have. The recovery period is when you are focused on YOU,

and what you need, psychologically, emotionally, and sometimes just

taking time off from others. (Notice I'm an introvert? Extraverts

have a different method for recharging.)

 

A vacation is NOT relaxing! It's one of the most stressed out time

in anyone's life.

 

So, to have the Radiant Circuits kick into gear it is so important

to know what turns on YOUR OWN Radiant Circuits. Then DO THAT

regularily.

 

I do that, daily.

 

> Meanwhile, TW is taking energy from

> any other place it can to keep you going,

 

Yes, but it's NOT the fault of the Triple Warmer! It's the fault of

the conscious mind, making decisions and adopting tasks that are NOT

turning on the Radiant Circuits.

 

The Triple Warmer is OUR FRIEND, helping us survive in the best way

an instinctual gene programed response can.

 

So, a BETTER WAY to normalize the Triple Warmer is to NOTICE WHAT IS

CAUSING it to go bonkers!

 

Then find better ways to assist the Triple Warmer, the Spleen, and

the OTHER RADIANT CIRCUITS to work in harmony.

 

>and since it is for survival, it gets to take

> the energy when it feels it needs it. So, you run out of energy

>in the other meridians and systems. Crash....

 

Yes, BUT, this is the result, NOT the cause. When you eat a

wonderful dinner, hours later you need to go to the bathroom and get

rid of the drosses. That does NOT mean that eating a wonderful

dinner is bad for you. Drosses are a natural process of body

cleansing.

 

What is happening before eating the wonderful dinner is the

decisions that come into play, the emotions that come into play, etc.

 

And that dinner can be chocolate cake and ice cream. It takes years

of a negative diet to screw with the system enough to harm it.

 

Unless of course you eat a handful of jalepenos in your salad, and

you'll notice a very " hot " " burning " sensation in your lower behind,

normally within a hour or so.

 

And it's NOT your Triple Warmer that is causing the gastro-burn, and

the butt-burn. It's not your stomach having a problem. It's NOT the

jalepenos even.

 

You just ate the wrong amounts of a certain food.

 

Or, you can be angry at a job situation, and still attempt to eat a

meal. Then the meal turns to lead in your gut and does not digest

properly.

 

You just had the wrong emotions running through you as you ate good

food, and the emotions turned the food to poison.

 

Now back flushing Triple Warmer and thumping Speen 21 will help to

metabolize that lump of lead in your gut...

 

....but a BETTER WAY is to change your thoughts and your attitudes

BEFORE eating.

 

Then the natural physical processes (I and Donna consider the

ENERGIES to be a natural physical process also) can do what they do

the best.

 

Now, sometimes we get a great factory knife, but the knife needs

some sharpening for a special use.

 

I consider tuning the energies the same way. If you want all your

energies humming in a certain positive way before going out to

lunch, that's real easy to do.

 

If you want your energies humming a certain positive way before

going out on a date, that's real easy to do.

 

> Sue

 

> The physical conditions that have come upon me are those most

>necessary for my own soul's development. (716-1)

> Edgar Cayce

 

I love that Edgar Cayce quote. Unfortunately it'd take an entire

article to explain it. The necessary assumptions and beliefs to

validate it, most people don't have. I personally love it. The

ultimate form of " living at cause " .

 

> >

> > I'll be sure and do some research!

 

This other person's reply to you???

 

She'll never do what it takes to fix what her problems really are.

I'm amazed at your persistence in attempting to explain anything to

her.

 

She's NOT taken any of the great advice you've given her and used

it.

 

The good news is, " maybe someone else has read it and ran with it " .

 

I certainly loved your last 4 posts.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

 

 

-- Follow you unbound potential.

[Guest guest]

Alex,

I have also found that when I remember to stop criticizing what is going on in my mind and just allow it to be while noticing what IS there eases TW pretty quickly.

 

Mary Nelsonhttp://www.eft4everyone.com

 

 

-

Alex

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:37 AM

Re: No! It's NOT the Triple Warmer's fault.

Doc, Paying attention seems to be the key to any energy work. Now that I know that I know what really is going on.. I can do something about it. Alex

On 8/28/06, kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sue, I loved your response, very good. Move down the page and I'll throw in my comments as they occur to me.--- Sue wrote:> This is classic TW/SP. You can throw yourself into overdrive >with TW and you don't know how to regulate your energy until you're >almost dead.I learned a long time ago to leave a portion of EVERY DAY for me, doing what I LIKE DOING, and NOT doing what others want me to do for them!My point being, even if I did the Donna Drills and still focused on what others wanted and enjoyed, and ignored what I wanted and enjoyed, the Donna Drills DID NOT WORK for more than a minute or two.> Then you have to go through a recovery period. Been there, done >that. Often. Many of us have. The recovery period is when you are focused on YOU, and what you need, psychologically, emotionally, and sometimes just taking time off from others. (Notice I'm an introvert? Extraverts have a different method for recharging.)A vacation is NOT relaxing! It's one of the most stressed out time in anyone's life. So, to have the Radiant Circuits kick into gear it is so important to know what turns on YOUR OWN Radiant Circuits. Then DO THAT regularily.I do that, daily.> Meanwhile, TW is taking energy from> any other place it can to keep you going, Yes, but it's NOT the fault of the Triple Warmer! It's the fault of the conscious mind, making decisions and adopting tasks that are NOT turning on the Radiant Circuits.The Triple Warmer is OUR FRIEND, helping us survive in the best way an instinctual gene programed response can.So, a BETTER WAY to normalize the Triple Warmer is to NOTICE WHAT IS CAUSING it to go bonkers!Then find better ways to assist the Triple Warmer, the Spleen, and the OTHER RADIANT CIRCUITS to work in harmony.>and since it is for survival, it gets to take > the energy when it feels it needs it. So, you run out of energy >in the other meridians and systems. Crash....Yes, BUT, this is the result, NOT the cause. When you eat a wonderful dinner, hours later you need to go to the bathroom and get rid of the drosses. That does NOT mean that eating a wonderful dinner is bad for you. Drosses are a natural process of body cleansing.What is happening before eating the wonderful dinner is the decisions that come into play, the emotions that come into play, etc.And that dinner can be chocolate cake and ice cream. It takes years of a negative diet to screw with the system enough to harm it.Unless of course you eat a handful of jalepenos in your salad, and you'll notice a very "hotburning" sensation in your lower behind, normally within a hour or so.And it's NOT your Triple Warmer that is causing the gastro-burn, and the butt-burn. It's not your stomach having a problem. It's NOT the jalepenos even.You just ate the wrong amounts of a certain food. Or, you can be angry at a job situation, and still attempt to eat a meal. Then the meal turns to lead in your gut and does not digest properly.You just had the wrong emotions running through you as you ate good food, and the emotions turned the food to poison.Now back flushing Triple Warmer and thumping Speen 21 will help to metabolize that lump of lead in your gut......but a BETTER WAY is to change your thoughts and your attitudes BEFORE eating.Then the natural physical processes (I and Donna consider the ENERGIES to be a natural physical process also) can do what they do the best.Now, sometimes we get a great factory knife, but the knife needs some sharpening for a special use.I consider tuning the energies the same way. If you want all your energies humming in a certain positive way before going out to lunch, that's real easy to do.If you want your energies humming a certain positive way before going out on a date, that's real easy to do.> Sue> The physical conditions that have come upon me are those most >necessary for my own soul's development. (716-1) > Edgar CayceI love that Edgar Cayce quote. Unfortunately it'd take an entire article to explain it. The necessary assumptions and beliefs to validate it, most people don't have. I personally love it. The ultimate form of "living at cause".> > > > I'll be sure and do some research!This other person's reply to you???She'll never do what it takes to fix what her problems really are. I'm amazed at your persistence in attempting to explain anything to her.She's NOT taken any of the great advice you've given her and used it. The good news is, "maybe someone else has read it and ran with it".I certainly loved your last 4 posts.Sincerely,-- Follow you unbound potential.

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc,

 

Your post on the TW is pure gold. And thanks to Sue for bringing up

this thread. I happened to read the original and she did good.

 

I think sometimes the Meridian\Radiant circuit gets a bad rep. Thanks

for reminding us to give it respect and our gratitude too. Here's my

response to your response to Sue's response on another forum: ;-}

 

doc said: Hi Sue, I loved your response, very good. Move down the page

{snip}

 

me, barb: Hi, Doc, I loved your response, very good. As usual a gold

mine of good advice. Thanks.

 

> I love that Edgar Cayce quote. Unfortunately it'd take an entire

{snip}

> ultimate form of " living at cause " .

 

Cayce was one of my first interests. I'm glad you help keep interest

in him active. As for the quote, it has always felt right. Although

there are times when I find it quite confounding.

 

> > > I'll be sure and do some research!

>

> This other person's reply to you???

 

Slow down, you read too fast. This was the other person's reply to me.

It was in regards to an explanation by David Feinstein in a handout

concerning the Triple Warmer .

 

It's a shame many on that group won't be reading your reply. Most on

this forum are already familar with Donna Eden and David Feinstein's

handouts - for those who may not be I'll copy my original post with

the references below.

 

> She'll never do what it takes to fix what her problems really are.

 

Unfortunately, this is very likely. One wonders. . .

 

> The good news is, " maybe someone else has read it and ran with it " .

 

This may be why many of us continue to post.

 

Incidentally your post on the radiant circuits to Kelmie was very

timely. Earlier today I'd spent several hours doing research on them.

Repeat one more time, barbara, " there are no coincidences. " ;-}

 

{Original post}

Re: people who catch everything

 

> > > " OK, what do the intials stand for again??? "

 

I wrote:

This is a quote from

http://www.energymed.org/hbank/handouts/principles_ener_med.htm

 

" The Triple Warmer: Triple warmer is the meridian that networks the

energies of the immune system to attack an invader, and it mobilizes

the body's energies in an emergency for the fight-or-flight-or-freeze

response. In carrying out these critical functions, it operates in

ways that are so beyond the range of any other meridian that some

consider it a system unto itself. Although the exact reasons for the

term " triple warmer " are lost in antiquity, its energies work in

conjunction with the hypothalamus gland, which is the body's

thermostat. The hypothalamus is also the instigator of the body's

emergency response. Like an army, triple warmer mobilizes during

threat or perceived threat, coordinating all the other energy systems

to activate the immune response, govern the fight/flight/freeze

mechanism, and establish and maintain habitual responses to threat. "

 

There is a lot of other information in this and the other handouts at

this site if you are interested. You'll have to do some clicking but

the search is worth the effort.

 

SP refers to the spleen meridian. All the meridians and their specific

points may be viewed at:

http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=SP1 & meridian=Spleen

 

One of the main themes of EM (Energy Medicine) is a balance of the TW

(Triple Warmer) and SP (Spleen) energies. There is much more to this.

I suggest that anyone who is interested do an " advanced " search on

Google using the phrases and words: " energy medicine, " " triple warmer "

and " spleen " in one search. It would probably be easier to get Donna

Eden's book from your library but. . . If you're like me, you'll end

up buying it anyway. :-}

 

IMO, because much of what is written concerning EM is often not

disease and\or health problem specific, not everyone has the

inclination to study it. EM works to establish healthy and balanced

energy systems with specific drills for problem areas.

 

Unfortunately the terms and priniciples of EM are new to many. I

regret that there isn't an easier way to educate others than with

references to other sites. Given the restrictions of copyrights

though, this seems to be the best way. Happy hunting!

barb

 

Thank you again.

barb(bbtried)

[Guest guest]

Thank you for yet another nugget of gold Mary!

 

Are you remote viewing me????? HAHAHAHA If so you are dead on.

 

Alex

 

On 8/30/06, M J Nelson <zpp4everyone wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alex,

I have also found that when I remember to stop criticizing what is going on in my mind and just allow it to be while noticing what IS there eases TW pretty quickly.

 

Mary Nelsonhttp://www.eft4everyone.com

 

 

-

 

Alex

 

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:37 AM

Re: No! It's NOT the Triple Warmer's fault.

Doc, Paying attention seems to be the key to any energy work. Now that I know that I know what really is going on.. I can do something about it. Alex

On 8/28/06, kahunamaker <kahunamaker

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sue, I loved your response, very good. Move down the page and I'll throw in my comments as they occur to me.--- Sue wrote:> This is classic TW/SP. You can throw yourself into overdrive >with TW and you don't know how to regulate your energy until you're >almost dead.I learned a long time ago to leave a portion of EVERY DAY for me, doing what I LIKE DOING, and NOT doing what others want me to do for them!My point being, even if I did the Donna Drills and still focused on what others wanted and enjoyed, and ignored what I wanted and enjoyed, the Donna Drills DID NOT WORK for more than a minute or two.> Then you have to go through a recovery period. Been there, done >that. Often. Many of us have. The recovery period is when you are focused on YOU, and what you need, psychologically, emotionally, and sometimes just taking time off from others. (Notice I'm an introvert? Extraverts have a different method for recharging.)A vacation is NOT relaxing! It's one of the most stressed out time in anyone's life. So, to have the Radiant Circuits kick into gear it is so important to know what turns on YOUR OWN Radiant Circuits. Then DO THAT regularily.I do that, daily.> Meanwhile, TW is taking energy from> any other place it can to keep you going, Yes, but it's NOT the fault of the Triple Warmer! It's the fault of the conscious mind, making decisions and adopting tasks that are NOT turning on the Radiant Circuits.The Triple Warmer is OUR FRIEND, helping us survive in the best way an instinctual gene programed response can.So, a BETTER WAY to normalize the Triple Warmer is to NOTICE WHAT IS CAUSING it to go bonkers!Then find better ways to assist the Triple Warmer, the Spleen, and the OTHER RADIANT CIRCUITS to work in harmony.>and since it is for survival, it gets to take > the energy when it feels it needs it. So, you run out of energy >in the other meridians and systems. Crash....Yes, BUT, this is the result, NOT the cause. When you eat a wonderful dinner, hours later you need to go to the bathroom and get rid of the drosses. That does NOT mean that eating a wonderful dinner is bad for you. Drosses are a natural process of body cleansing.What is happening before eating the wonderful dinner is the decisions that come into play, the emotions that come into play, etc.And that dinner can be chocolate cake and ice cream. It takes years of a negative diet to screw with the system enough to harm it.Unless of course you eat a handful of jalepenos in your salad, and you'll notice a very " hot " " burning " sensation in your lower behind, normally within a hour or so.And it's NOT your Triple Warmer that is causing the gastro-burn, and the butt-burn. It's not your stomach having a problem. It's NOT the jalepenos even.You just ate the wrong amounts of a certain food. Or, you can be angry at a job situation, and still attempt to eat a meal. Then the meal turns to lead in your gut and does not digest properly.You just had the wrong emotions running through you as you ate good food, and the emotions turned the food to poison.Now back flushing Triple Warmer and thumping Speen 21 will help to metabolize that lump of lead in your gut......but a BETTER WAY is to change your thoughts and your attitudes BEFORE eating.Then the natural physical processes (I and Donna consider the ENERGIES to be a natural physical process also) can do what they do the best.Now, sometimes we get a great factory knife, but the knife needs some sharpening for a special use.I consider tuning the energies the same way. If you want all your energies humming in a certain positive way before going out to lunch, that's real easy to do.If you want your energies humming a certain positive way before going out on a date, that's real easy to do.> Sue> The physical conditions that have come upon me are those most >necessary for my own soul's development. (716-1) > Edgar CayceI love that Edgar Cayce quote. Unfortunately it'd take an entire article to explain it. The necessary assumptions and beliefs to validate it, most people don't have. I personally love it. The ultimate form of " living at cause " .> > > > I'll be sure and do some research!This other person's reply to you???She'll never do what it takes to fix what her problems really are. I'm amazed at your persistence in attempting to explain anything to her.She's NOT taken any of the great advice you've given her and used it. The good news is, " maybe someone else has read it and ran with it " .I certainly loved your last 4 posts.Sincerely,-- Follow you unbound potential.

 

 

-- Follow you unbound potential.

[Guest guest]

This concept that no matter what..habits must conform to the

program, or nothing works as well as it can, is so true for all of

us. It is a whole life living experience to get everything in proper

balance, nutrition, attitude, the goal, the lifestyle, the routine,

the rituals, etc. ...Not to mention the drills. WOW! Exciting!!!

Seeing it all come together. Hearing everyones experience. Track

records! Thank you all! And to Dr. Tourrette! What a life you have

lived, and are continuing to encourage others! A real inspiration!!!

Lee

 

> > On 8/28/06, kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Sue, I loved your response, very good. Move down the page

and

> > > I'll throw in my comments as they occur to me.

> > >

> > > --- Sue@ wrote:

> > > > This is classic TW/SP. You can throw yourself into overdrive

> > > >with TW and you don't know how to regulate your energy until

you're

> > > >almost dead.

> > >

> > > I learned a long time ago to leave a portion of EVERY DAY for

me,

> > > doing what I LIKE DOING, and NOT doing what others want me to

do for

> > > them!

> > >

> > > My point being, even if I did the Donna Drills and still

focused on

> > > what others wanted and enjoyed, and ignored what I wanted and

> > > enjoyed, the Donna Drills DID NOT WORK for more than a minute

or two.

> > >

> > > > Then you have to go through a recovery period. Been there,

done

> > > >that. Often.

> > >

> > > Many of us have. The recovery period is when you are focused

on YOU,

> > > and what you need, psychologically, emotionally, and sometimes

just

> > > taking time off from others. (Notice I'm an introvert?

Extraverts

> > > have a different method for recharging.)

> > >

> > > A vacation is NOT relaxing! It's one of the most stressed out

time

> > > in anyone's life.

> > >

> > > So, to have the Radiant Circuits kick into gear it is so

important

> > > to know what turns on YOUR OWN Radiant Circuits. Then DO THAT

> > > regularily.

> > >

> > > I do that, daily.

> > >

> > > > Meanwhile, TW is taking energy from

> > > > any other place it can to keep you going,

> > >

> > > Yes, but it's NOT the fault of the Triple Warmer! It's the

fault of

> > > the conscious mind, making decisions and adopting tasks that

are NOT

> > > turning on the Radiant Circuits.

> > >

> > > The Triple Warmer is OUR FRIEND, helping us survive in the

best way

> > > an instinctual gene programed response can.

> > >

> > > So, a BETTER WAY to normalize the Triple Warmer is to NOTICE

WHAT IS

> > > CAUSING it to go bonkers!

> > >

> > > Then find better ways to assist the Triple Warmer, the Spleen,

and

> > > the OTHER RADIANT CIRCUITS to work in harmony.

> > >

> > > >and since it is for survival, it gets to take

> > > > the energy when it feels it needs it. So, you run out of

energy

> > > >in the other meridians and systems. Crash....

> > >

> > > Yes, BUT, this is the result, NOT the cause. When you eat a

> > > wonderful dinner, hours later you need to go to the bathroom

and get

> > > rid of the drosses. That does NOT mean that eating a wonderful

> > > dinner is bad for you. Drosses are a natural process of body

> > > cleansing.

> > >

> > > What is happening before eating the wonderful dinner is the

> > > decisions that come into play, the emotions that come into

play, etc.

> > >

> > > And that dinner can be chocolate cake and ice cream. It takes

years

> > > of a negative diet to screw with the system enough to harm it.

> > >

> > > Unless of course you eat a handful of jalepenos in your salad,

and

> > > you'll notice a very " hot " " burning " sensation in your lower

behind,

> > > normally within a hour or so.

> > >

> > > And it's NOT your Triple Warmer that is causing the gastro-

burn, and

> > > the butt-burn. It's not your stomach having a problem. It's

NOT the

> > > jalepenos even.

> > >

> > > You just ate the wrong amounts of a certain food.

> > >

> > > Or, you can be angry at a job situation, and still attempt to

eat a

> > > meal. Then the meal turns to lead in your gut and does not

digest

> > > properly.

> > >

> > > You just had the wrong emotions running through you as you ate

good

> > > food, and the emotions turned the food to poison.

> > >

> > > Now back flushing Triple Warmer and thumping Speen 21 will

help to

> > > metabolize that lump of lead in your gut...

> > >

> > > ...but a BETTER WAY is to change your thoughts and your

attitudes

> > > BEFORE eating.

> > >

> > > Then the natural physical processes (I and Donna consider the

> > > ENERGIES to be a natural physical process also) can do what

they do

> > > the best.

> > >

> > > Now, sometimes we get a great factory knife, but the knife

needs

> > > some sharpening for a special use.

> > >

> > > I consider tuning the energies the same way. If you want all

your

> > > energies humming in a certain positive way before going out to

> > > lunch, that's real easy to do.

> > >

> > > If you want your energies humming a certain positive way before

> > > going out on a date, that's real easy to do.

> > >

> > > > Sue

> > >

> > > > The physical conditions that have come upon me are those most

> > > >necessary for my own soul's development. (716-1)

> > > > Edgar Cayce

> > >

> > > I love that Edgar Cayce quote. Unfortunately it'd take an

entire

> > > article to explain it. The necessary assumptions and beliefs to

> > > validate it, most people don't have. I personally love it. The

> > > ultimate form of " living at cause " .

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I'll be sure and do some research!

> > >

> > > This other person's reply to you???

> > >

> > > She'll never do what it takes to fix what her problems really

are.

> > > I'm amazed at your persistence in attempting to explain

anything to

> > > her.

> > >

> > > She's NOT taken any of the great advice you've given her and

used

> > > it.

> > >

> > > The good news is, " maybe someone else has read it and ran with

it " .

> > >

> > > I certainly loved your last 4 posts.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >