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This discussion is in response to a news that an autistic became violent and killed his mother.<http://www.vindy. com/users/ Lifesnadir/>Lifesnadir

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ Lifesnadir/ comments>9

comments) posted 1 day, 8 hours ago

 

I wonder if Gertrude Steuernagel' s teenager was

on one of the so-called miracle antidepressants

like Prozac, which can cause aggressive and violent behavior?

What a sad story.

The State of Ohio needs to place this autistic

teen for treatment, NOT punishment. These kids do

know right from wrong, but impulse control can be

poor. They look and seem "normal" to outsiders,

but the issues are huge and complex. He likely

doesn't fully understand how he killed his mom,

or why he did it, especially if he was on the

cocktail of meds most docs use to "treat"

autistic kids. But NO studies show that ANY of

these meds do or do not really help. Instead,

autistic kids complain of a long list of side

effects, which are ignored--- a doc would

immediately re-evaluate the meds if a

non-disabled adult made the same complaints of

the same side effects. But not these kids /

teens. Their side effect reports of headaches,

hallucinations, and parental reports of increased

irritability and aggression are just flat out ignored !

This story makes me angry because I can bet the

State will seek to try him as an adult, and as a

non-disabled adult. This poor autistic kid is now

"lost" forever in the legal system.

(signed)

Aunt of 2 autistic teenage boys going through

similar med-agression problems.... and

professionals won't listen to the mom's reports about the kids.

 

 

<http://www.vindy. com/users/ Maurinemeleck/>Maurinemeleck

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ Maurinemeleck/ comments>3

comments) posted 1 day, 2 hours ago

 

A huge correction needs to be made with this article.

Thimerosal IS NOT out of vaccines so the media

needs to stop saying this and get the facts right.

It is in 90% of the flu vaccines recommended for

pregnant women and children over the age of 6

months(25 micrograms) and is also still in large

amounts in 11 of the childhood and young adult

vaccines. many of the other vaccines are

processed with thimerosal and then it's taken out

leaving trace amounts still in the shots. It has

never been proven that injecting any amount of mercury into the body is safe.

So to say that thimerosal doesn't cause autism is

not true either. It has not been proven not to cause it.

I hope this paper will make a correction in tomorrow's paper.

Maurine Meleck

North Augusta, SC

 

 

<http://www.vindy. com/users/ concerned/>concerned

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ concerned/ comments>43

comments) posted 1 day, 2 hours ago

 

Very sad that the Autism Society of Ohio doesn't

get the breadth of the problem facing some families of kids with severe autism.

Ms. Yavorcik is only an expert on her High

Functioning kid with autism who works in a

grocery store. Not Sky Walker's kind of autism.

The kind where you can't tie your own shoes or

talk. And who has been medicated with powerful

antipsychotics since he became a teenager.

 

 

<http://www.vindy. com/users/ planforthebest/>planforthebest

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ planforthebest/ comments>25

comments) posted 23 hours, 23 minutes ago

 

The increase in prevalence of autism can largely

be explained by the fact that the term "autism"

was redefined 10 years ago to include children

who are shy, children who are socially awkward

and children who don't start speaking by by age 1, among others.

20 years ago, a child who was shy was shy, not

pathological and a child that didn't speak by 12

months was a late-bloomer. The only children who

were diagnosed with autism where children with no social functioning at all.

I am completely in favor of the earliest possible

intervention for children with autism. I am

opposed to labeling children who are simply

outside the new narrow limits of "normal."

As for the violence, few children with autism

become violent. It's very rare. Autism alone

doesn't explain this horrible crime.

 

 

<http://www.vindy. com/users/ Maurinemeleck/>Maurinemeleck

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ Maurinemeleck/ comments>3

comments) posted 17 hours, 29 minutes ago

 

Obviously Plan for the best doesn't have an

autistic child or a member of the family who is

autistic.. The statement about no increase in

autism and it being re-defined is ridiculous. I

know hundreds of autism families and there is no

way one could mistake a shy person from an

autistic one .. This person knows nothing about autism.

 

 

<http://www.vindy. com/users/ GSGoldman/>GSGoldman

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ GSGoldman/ comments>1

comments) posted 5 hours, 19 minutes ago

 

Vaccines with “trace†amounts of Thimerosal, by

definition, “contain less than 1 microgram of

mercury (Hg) per dose

(<http://www.fda. gov/cber/ vaccine/thimeros al.htm%29. %E2%80%9D>http://www.fda. gov/cber/ vaccine/thimeros ...

For example, consider that the reduced-Thimerosal

flu vaccine with 0.0002% mercury is equivalent to

1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of Hg

per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter;

or 2000 parts per billion [ppb].

0.5 parts per billion (ppb) mercury has been

shown to kill human neuroblastoma cells (Parran

et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86:132–40).

2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking

water

(<http://www.epa. gov/safewater/ contaminants/ index.html# mcls>http://www.epa. gov/safewater/ contaminant. ..).

 

20 ppb mercury destroys neurite membrane

structures (Leong et al., Neuroreport 2001:12733–7) .

200 ppb mercury is the level in liquid that the

EPA classifies as hazardous waste

(<http://www.epa. gov/epaoswer/ hazwaste>http://www.epa. gov/epaoswer/ hazwaste

/mercury/regs. htm#hazwaste) .

25,000 ppb mercury is the concentration of

mercury in multidose, Hepatitis B vaccine vials,

administered at birth from 1991-2001 in the U.S.

 

 

<http://www.vindy. com/users/ concerned/>concerned

(<http://www.vindy. com/users/ concerned/ comments>43

comments) posted 14 minutes ago

 

planforthebest is completely clueless about what

autism can be like for some children. We don't

know how many children have it because we don't

know for sure what the actual numbers are.

Reclassification, and broadening of criteria mumbo jumbo is for the birds.

Autism alone can explain this horrific crime ( it

was a tragic accident in my book). Severely,

autistic children who can't communicate

efficiently, who are prone to meltdowns and are

easily frustrated can very well lash out. When a

3 year old has tantrums

parents/teachers/ caregivers can manage them. When

it's an 18 year old well sized man this is a

different story. Hence the outcome of this tragic situation.

Instead of denying this can happen, accept the

harsh realities of what is happening to our

children. Autism is a horrible disability. People

should be outraged we are sitting back

comfortably accepting at least 1 in 150 has some

form of neurological impairment.

This situation is a glimpse into the coming of age of autism for some.

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