Guest guest Posted November 18, 2001 Report Share Posted November 18, 2001 Michael Moore, " the herbalist's herbalist " , says that the term 'estrogenic' herb is nonsensical as some of the herbs under this heading will bind to estrogen receptors (thereby blocking them) whereas others will -activate- estrogen receptors. To understand what this means, to be able to know which " phyto-estrogens " are useful and which are not, is a major topic of study which I have not yet undertaken...but I guess I should do it soon.... SO, that being said, I have a bunch of lists from Jim Duke's site to post... The first is " Plant Chemicals with Estrogenic Activity " ...now remember what MM said above about these chemicals...and also keep in mind that these chemicals are of varying potency and strength. A male researcher on the menopaus list disputed the value of these lists, saying that " one molecule of estradiol [not found in plants] is 1000 times more potent than one molecule of genistein [found in soy, I believe] " But. I post these to show that the subject of plant chemistry and hormones is not as simple as one might assume. I also am unclear as to what the dosages after some of the chemicals refer to... " Plant Chemicals with Estrogenic Activity " 3'-DEMETHOXY-6-O-DEMETHYLISOGUAIACIN 30 ANETHOLE BETA-SITOSTEROL BIOCHANIN BIOCHANIN-A BORON 3 mg/man/day CHRYSIN-5,7-DIHYDROXYFLAVONE CORONARIDINE COUMESTROL DAIDZEIN DAIDZIN DIANETHOLE DIOSGENIN EMBELIN ESTRIOL 500 ug/day/orl/wmn ESTRONE 0.1-5 mg/woman/day FERUJOL 0.6 ppm FILIXIC-ACID FORMONONETIN GENISTEIN GENISTIN GLYCITEIN GLYCITEIN-7-0-GLUCOSIDE GLYCYRRHIZIN GLYESTRONE IRISOLONE MIRIFICIN NORWEDELOLACTONE RHAPONTICIN STIGMASTEROL TRICIN WEDELOLACTONE WOGONIN 10 mg/kg/day ZEARALENONE Phytochemeco Database - USDA - ARS - NGRL James A. Duke and Stephen M. Beckstrom-Sternberg The USDA does not recommend self diagnosis or self medication. (Joanie) **************************** Okay, having sent out the list of plant estrogens, with no info about any of them, I now send a list of plants that contain some of these chemicals...(each can be looked up individually for which chemicals they contain, and the concentration in each)...and how many of these chemicals are contained in each plant specie.... Number of Chemicals in Plants with Estrogenic Activity Glycine max (Soybean) Seed - 9 chemicals Medicago sativa (Alfalfa) Plant - 8 chemicals Glycine max (Soybean) Hypocotyl - 5 chemicals Glycyrrhiza glabra (Common Licorice) Root - 5 chemicals Trifolium pratense (Red Clover) Flower - 5 chemicals Anethum graveolens (Dill) Plant - 4 chemicals Daucus carota (Carrot) Root - 4 chemicals Glycine max (Soybean) Cotyledon - 4 chemicals Panax quinquefolius (American Ginseng) Plant - 4 chemicals Pisum sativum (Pea) Seed - 4 chemicals Pueraria pseudohirsuta (Chinese Kudzu) Root - 4 chemicals Vigna radiata (Green Gram) Plant - 4 chemicals Allium cepa (Onion) Bulb - 3 chemicals Artemisia dracunculus (Tarragon) Plant - 3 chemicals Arundo donax (Giant Reed) Plant - 3 chemicals Citrus sinensis (Orange) Fruit - 3 chemicals Citrus paradisi (Grapefruit) Fruit - 3 chemicals Elettaria cardamomum (Cardamom) Seed - 3 chemicals Fagopyrum esculentum (Buckwheat) Seed - 3 chemicals Foeniculum vulgare (Fennel) Fruit - 3 chemicals ****************************************** Okay...this list is about how rich each phyto-estrogenic plant is in these chemicals, but it does not give info on which chemical is in each plant, nor how useful it is. Concentration of Chemicals in Plants with Estrogenic Activity ************************** Glycyrrhiza glabra (Common Licorice) Root - 152,567 ppm total [5 chemical(s)] Abrus precatorius (Crab's Eye) Leaf - 100,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Canarium indicum (Java-Olive) Plant - 85,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Glycine max (Soybean) Seed - 22,823.2 ppm total [9 chemical(s)] Trigonella foenum-graecum (Fenugreek) Seed - 19,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Annona cherimola (Cherimoya) Seed - 18,000 ppm total [2 chemical(s)] Trifolium pratense (Red Clover) Plant - 15,000 ppm total [3 chemical(s)] Rheum rhabarbarum (Rhubarb) Root - 14,200 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Abrus precatorius (Crab's Eye) Root - 12,500 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Solanum nigrum (Black Nightshade) Fruit - 12,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Glycine max (Soybean) Hypocotyl - 10,961 ppm total [5 chemical(s)] Crataegus laevigata (Hawthorn) Flower - 7,800 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Daucus carota (Carrot) Root - 6,036 ppm total [4 chemical(s)] Polypodium vulgare (Common Polypody) Rhizome - 6,000 ppm total [2 chemical(s)] Scutellaria baicalensis (Chinese Skullcap) Root - 5,000 ppm total [3 chemical(s)] Dioscorea bulbifera (Air Potato) Tuber - 4,500 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Nigella sativa (Black Cumin) Seed - 3,218 ppm total [2 chemical(s)] Glycine max (Soybean) Cotyledon - 3,173 ppm total [4 chemical(s)] Oenothera biennis (Evening-Primrose) Seed - 2,569 ppm total [2 chemical(s)] Salvia officinalis (Sage) Leaf - 2,496 ppm total [3 chemical(s)] *********************** Phytochemeco Database - USDA - ARS - NGRLJames A. Duke and Stephen M. Beckstrom-Sternberg ************************************************************* This list is much like the previous one, but contains a lot of trees! Concentration of Chemicals in Medicinal Plants with Estrogenic Activity Abrus precatorius (Crab's Eye) Leaf - 100,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Rheum rhabarbarum (Rhubarb) Root - 14,200 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Abrus precatorius (Crab's Eye) Root - 12,500 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Solanum nigrum (Black Nightshade) Fruit - 12,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Crataegus laevigata (Hawthorn) Flower - 7,800 ppm total [1chemical(s)] Polypodium vulgare (Common Polypody) Rhizome - 6,000 ppm total [2 chemical(s)] Scutellaria baicalensis (Chinese Skullcap) Root - 5,000 ppm total [3 chemical(s)] Nigella sativa (Black Cumin) Seed - 3,218 ppm total [2 chemical(s)] Senna obtusifolia (Sicklepod) Seed - 2,000 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Viola odorata (Common Violet) Plant - 330 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Withania somniferum (Ashwagandha) Root - 200 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Serenoa repens (Saw Palmetto) Fruit - 189 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Nyssa sylvatica (Black Gum) Leaf - 136 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Juniperus virginiana (Red Cedar) Shoot - 88 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Liquidambar styraciflua (American Styrax) Leaf - 84 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Rhizophora mangle (Red Mangrove) Leaf - 83 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Rhus copallina (Dwarf Sumac) Leaf - 67 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] Quercus rubra (Northern Red Oak) Stem - 66 ppm total [1chemical(s)] Liquidambar styraciflua (American Styrax) Stem - 60 ppm total [1chemical(s)] Erythroxylum coca coca (Coca) Leaf - 57 ppm total [1 chemical(s)] *************** Phytochemeco Database - USDA - ARS - NGRLJames A. Duke and Stephen M. Beckstrom->>>>> ****************************************************** ooops...one more...these are on the GRAS list- 'generally regarded as safe'...may be more familiar to you all. (remember-ppm means parts per million)...look at the difference in amounts... Joanie Concentration of Chemicals in Plants with Estrogenic Activity Glycyrrhiza glabra (Common Licorice) Root - 152,567 ppm total Trifolium pratense (Red Clover) Plant - 15,000 ppm total Taraxacum officinale (Dandelion) Leaf - 125 ppm total Medicago sativa (Alfalfa) Plant - 45 ppm total Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Plant - 39 ppm total Medicago sativa (Alfalfa) Leaf - 25 ppm total Trifolium pratense (Red Clover) Leaf - 23 ppm total Rosa canina (Rose) Fruit - 22 ppm total Trifolium pratense (Red Clover) Stem - 16 ppm total Cinnamomum verum (Cinnamon) Bark - 15 ppm total Medicago sativa (Alfalfa) Stem - 14 ppm total Zingiber officinale (Ginger) Rhizome - 4 ppm total Mentha x piperita (Peppermint) Leaf - 0.01 ppm total Phytochemeco Database - USDA - ARS - NGRL James A. Duke and Stephen M. Beckstrom-Sternberg Well those were some lists...I need to do some other stuff now. In the meantime, I would just read and go by Susun Weed and Amanda McQuade Crawford (or is it Amanda Crawford McQuade?) to make this all simpler. Do not start eating oak trees and all now, just becasue it is on this list of estrogenic plants...I posted the list to show how complicated it all is... a review of Herbal Menopause by AMC is here http://www.teleport.com/~jonno/AMCQ.html http://www.scentsappeal.net ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.298 / Virus Database: 161 - Release 11/13/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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