so when buttholes start bragging about their TCM skills I barf onto my keyboard.

[Guest guest]

Doc,

There is man in the San Francisco Bay Area named David Smith

who is a Medical Qi Gong Grand Master, the only Westerner

they were willing to train that far. David is a pretty

knowledgeable guy in areas other than TCM as well as trained

as a doctor in China. He studied for a number of years with

some highly skilled Chinese people. He said that the people

he trained with do have real skills. Maybe they were able to

keep a low enough profile during Mao's time. I don't know.

 

It is kind of like Huna. They went underground when the US

government started persecuting people involved in the

practice. You probably know a lot more about that than I do.

Even in Hawaii the US Government was not able to eliminate

it completely even though they tried.

 

China is once again working hard to stop many highly

effective techniques from being taught to prospective

doctors. David said they still allow him to teach what the

Chinese doctors are now forbidden to teach again, even those

who trained him. Apparently it had loosened up a bit during

the time he trained because there were Chinese people also

trained.

 

While a lot was probably lost, not all of it was. A few did

manage to maintain some of the knowledge. David is a pretty

smart person and his BS meter is pretty good.

 

Actually, I would love for you two to meet. I'll bet you

would like each other.

 

Most Westerners can not tell the difference between highly

skilled and minimally skilled anyway.

 

My Feldenkrais teacher has been studying TCM for about 4

years. Some of the stuff she spouts dogmatically makes me

bristle. And she does not realize what she is installing in

the students in the Feldenkrais class.

 

An example is that ALL wind is harmful. This includes

everything from a warm spring (or fall) breeze to

hurricanes. Sorry. That does not jive with my own experience

of some winds being nourishing.

 

I am very glad to have trained with you. That training has

helped my BS (bull shit) meter to be pretty accurate at

times.

 

Mary Nelson

http://www.eft4everyone.com

 

 

-

" docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

 

Friday, October 06, 2006 2:21 AM

so when buttholes

start bragging about their TCM skills I barf onto my

keyboard.

 

 

: Well I'm going to rant a bit and I'm sure I'm going to

enjoy it.

:

: I continually hear from these folks that are doing TCM and

they are

: damn proud of it.

:

: TCM is an abbreviation for Traditional .

:

: Unfortunately no such animal exists.

:

: Why doesn't it exist?

:

: Good question.

:

: Because Chairman Mao made damn sure it doesn't exist.

[Guest guest]

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

wrote:

>

> Well I'm going to rant a bit and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it.

>

> I continually hear from these folks that are doing TCM and they

are

> damn proud of it.

>

> TCM is an abbreviation for Traditional .

>

> Unfortunately no such animal exists.

>

> Why doesn't it exist?

>

> Good question.

>

> Because Chairman Mao made damn sure it doesn't exist.

>

> He took anything from TCM that had intuition, and psychic skills

> involved and purged it!

>

> So those that really had the skills, like the Donna Edens of

today,

> were killed, or they left the country, or the went into hiding.

>

> And Mao ruled that country with an iron fist for a long time. Time

> enough for those that knew to mostly die out.

>

> Pretty well documentated.

>

> So when these mike butt holes start bragging about their skills

and

> about how good they are because of .... I just barf on the

keyboard.

>

> That felt pretty damn good.

>

>

>

 

Hi doc and Mary, donna said about the same thing at the woman's

hormone class in Arizona 2 years ago. she said she was at an energy

conference talking with some acupunture specialists. one of them saw

energy and the other one didn't. they had some pre-mao

acupunture texts and the later books during and after mao. they were

different. And what the one who could see energy saw was more like

donna now sees and the old, pre-mao books taught.

Barb

[Guest guest]

>they had some pre-mao acupunture texts and the later books during and after

>mao. they were

different.

-

There is only ONE acupuncture/TCM book that matters and as it preceded Mao

by a few centuries it's long out of copyright so take a free peek at:

 

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=195056

 

rusty

 

-

barbara101ann

 

Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM

Re: so when buttholes start

bragging about their TCM skills I barf onto my keyboard.

 

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

wrote:

>

> Well I'm going to rant a bit and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it.

>

> I continually hear from these folks that are doing TCM and they

are

> damn proud of it.

>

> TCM is an abbreviation for Traditional .

>

> Unfortunately no such animal exists.

>

> Why doesn't it exist?

>

> Good question.

>

> Because Chairman Mao made damn sure it doesn't exist.

>

> He took anything from TCM that had intuition, and psychic skills

> involved and purged it!

>

> So those that really had the skills, like the Donna Edens of

today,

> were killed, or they left the country, or the went into hiding.

>

> And Mao ruled that country with an iron fist for a long time. Time

> enough for those that knew to mostly die out.

>

> Pretty well documentated.

>

> So when these mike butt holes start bragging about their skills

and

> about how good they are because of .... I just barf on the

keyboard.

>

> That felt pretty damn good.

>

>

>

 

Hi doc and Mary, donna said about the same thing at the woman's

hormone class in Arizona 2 years ago. she said she was at an energy

conference talking with some acupunture specialists. one of them saw

energy and the other one didn't. they had some pre-mao

acupunture texts and the later books during and after mao. they were

different. And what the one who could see energy saw was more like

donna now sees and the old, pre-mao books taught.

Barb

[Guest guest]

> So when these mike butt holes start bragging about their skills

and

> about how good they are because of .... I just barf on the

keyboard

-

Jeeezz, Doc. you should do something about that reflex.

 

How about surgery? [allopathic response]

Valium? [allopathic response]

Hold yer NVs [donna]

Smell this rose [ homeopathic response].

Get real [rusty]

 

C'mon doc., TCM continues; just not in The People's Republic of China [

bet there's an underground though].

 

Having said all that, I agree about the butt holes, just don't throw the

baby out with the dirty diaper.

 

Sung:)

rusty

 

 

 

 

 

-

barbara101ann

 

Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM

Re: so when buttholes start

bragging about their TCM skills I barf onto my keyboard.

 

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

wrote:

>

> Well I'm going to rant a bit and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it.

>

> I continually hear from these folks that are doing TCM and they

are

> damn proud of it.

>

> TCM is an abbreviation for Traditional .

>

> Unfortunately no such animal exists.

>

> Why doesn't it exist?

>

> Good question.

>

> Because Chairman Mao made damn sure it doesn't exist.

>

> He took anything from TCM that had intuition, and psychic skills

> involved and purged it!

>

> So those that really had the skills, like the Donna Edens of

today,

> were killed, or they left the country, or the went into hiding.

>

> And Mao ruled that country with an iron fist for a long time. Time

> enough for those that knew to mostly die out.

>

> Pretty well documentated.

>

> So when these mike butt holes start bragging about their skills

and

> about how good they are because of .... I just barf on the

keyboard.

>

> That felt pretty damn good.

>

>

>

 

Hi doc and Mary, donna said about the same thing at the woman's

hormone class in Arizona 2 years ago. she said she was at an energy

conference talking with some acupunture specialists. one of them saw

energy and the other one didn't. they had some pre-mao

acupunture texts and the later books during and after mao. they were

different. And what the one who could see energy saw was more like

donna now sees and the old, pre-mao books taught.

Barb