So, how did you actually 'do' remote healing?

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<mlnfoster wrote:

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> I feel a little out of my comfort zone speaking about this, a >little

intimidated actually since you have had so much " training " in >long distance

work.

 

Hi Melanie,

 

That 'intimidation' wasn't my purpose.

 

I also apologize for mis-spelling your name, with an 'a' instead of an 'e'.

 

I also don't feel bad about it.

 

Just like the first time I remote viewed in front of others as a test of

competency back in 1980.

 

I finally just did the damn drill, relaxed and let come what came, and spoke

about what I 'saw/felt' when it came.

 

Fortunately my accuracy was very high.

 

Even then, when I had just demonstrated success, I still had self-doubts.

 

Now, 29 years later, I do know how to erase the 'charge' off of those doubts and

to add a 'charge' to 'competency and confidence'.

 

So I do know where you are coming from emotionally, a 'safety' issue.

 

My apologies for accidentally causing that.

 

>I had just left the Clinical Practicum in August, was on a plane, and felt

flush with all the energy work we had been doing.

 

So you had a 'positive expectancy' about energy and the work that you had just

done with energy.

 

That is one of the pre-requisites of for getting positive results with remote

influence.

 

> So, I closed my eyes, pictured him lying in his hospital bed with tubes and

such and I started doing some of the exercises as if I were doing them in his

field.

 

" As if I were doing them in his field " means that you were 'there', and you were

'associated' into that 'action'.

 

Which is another pre-requisite for doing it well.

 

Cool.

 

>I'm not someone who readily " pictures " what I am doing,

 

That just demonstrates a kinesthetic lead system versus a 'visual' lead system.

 

>but at this time I was able to do so.

 

" Do so " while in their field presupposes that you were there (assoicated

location) which lead you to see them as they were there.

 

>Mostly what I was doing is sending loving energy in the form of Eden >Energy

Medicine with the intention that it go to the highest good >for all involved.

 

There are two primary systems of thought on this.

 

The one taught by most Earth Elements do it the way you mentioned. That method

is also suggested by a group (Spindrift) up where you are at (Salem, Eugene

area).

 

Dossey wrote about them.

 

Another way, a way that seems to be more effective (The Intention Experiment),

is to be very specific in what you see/feel with your remote sensing, and then

take appropiate steps as you would if you were working with a person in person.

 

I've used them both, and I've taught them both. For me, best results are with

the latter.

 

I do agree in the radiant circuit of love, depending upon what you mean by

'love'.

 

The rest of your post is interesting.

 

I am wondering about, " what else could you have done if you had accessed his

thoughts and emotions " to find out the deeply covered emotional reasons behind

his illness?

 

Sometimes people just want to 'check out of Dodge'.

 

Sometimes people just feel they don't deserve to live (Cris and I have talked

about that before, here).

 

Some people just don't have a strong emotional reason for getting well. They

have no plans on what to do if they were healthly again.

 

Sometimes from that level of mind, with the right information, a great internal

reframe from his own values, criteria and beliefs will work miracles.

 

Again, Dossey has some very intriguing information on this topic from the

'healing remotely' viewpoint.

 

I really appreciate you answering my questions.

 

Thank you.

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

 

> I didn't have doubt as I knew he needed his energy to flow. I didn't need to

test anything cause I knew he needed everything. The competency came to me in

that moment cause I knew this was the best I could do for him....there you have

it...I guess I just " knew " that was my sensing.

>

> For what it's worth..the fact that I continued doing energy stuff for him for

an hour at a time made it feel like there was a connection that was " real " and

was happening. Of course coming off the Clinical Practicum (or any other Eden

Energy Medicine Class) I was anxious to use my energy in any way that seemed

necessary.

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Hello from Lurkdom--

Since you opened your question to anyone, I'll chime in a little

bit. I use a lot of distant healing, or healing in absentia as we

used to say it.

First, about the method--actually methodS, because I don't use just

one. When I started working with distant healing, the only models I

had were (a) New Orleans style Voodoo, specifically sympathetic magic,

and (b) what I had gleaned from books about the Silva method (and Silva

method copiers). The (a) method involved using a sort of stand-in

(remember the old Voodoo dolls?), which could be a pillow, a teddy bear,

etc. The stand-in was designated as such, " as here, so

there " , and the hurt, broken, or ailing portions were

" repaired " using a heavy dose of imagination. The (b)

method involved " going to Level " (several ways of doing this)

and working on the person in a dedicated work space of the mind, using

whatever means might " occur " to me. I might call in a

renowned doctor from the present or past---or even the future in a couple

of cases. I might just " see " the problem in a bright

color and simply do what seems practical: pluck out a tumor, put soothing

" cream " on a rash, etc.

Later, I learned Reiki, which in my case morphed into a form of Reiki

that leans more heavily on the gTummo fires. Still later, I learned

about meridians, acupuncture points and more.

Now I use some or all of these depending on how my intuition guides me,

so that in reality I can't say I use just " one thing. " It

might be just one, or it might be a combination of two or more.

 

Now to specific questions--

1. " How you 'saw' to do? " : A lot of time, I rely on the

person's complaint. If, however, I'm using Silva or Silva-like

techniques, I might " see " the injury (for instance) as a bright

red glow on the person when at Level. And I might see more than

what they're complaining about--not always, but it happens. I do

work on all that I see, regardless. If just using Reiki/InnerSun, I

" feel " more than " see. " At certain points in a

full body distant treatment, I can feel more of a flow either because

it's hotter, or an almost electrical type feeling, as though electricity

is surging through my body.

2. " How you 'felt' to do? " For me, this is mostly

intuitive, but there's a physical component as well. I often

physically feel a heat or a chill in certain areas of the body, and

" know " this is where a lot of the healing is going, or should

be directed.

3. " How you 'knew' what else to do? " Interesting

question, and reminds me of times when I " thought " I was done

with the work, and I'm drawn (yanked, even) back to a spot I hadn't

noticed. Or back to a spot I thought I'd cleared, but more still

needed to be done. My hands (in real time or in the workshop) are

guided (best word I can come up with) to the place, or sometimes I'll

" see " a bright picture of something still needing work.

 

4. " How you phrased your words to do? " I seldom use

words. I seldom speak, unless it's to ask the person (at Level) if

there is more I need to address.

5. " How you first removed your own doubts to do? "

Frankly, I thought it was all b.s. at first. Results removed my

doubts. And, receiving healing from others helped, too.

 

6. " How you install competency in yourself with that process to

do? " Practice, continuing education, and more practice.

 

7. " How you associated into his energies to do? "

Scientific or not, I have my own kind of " string " theory.

I don't need a name or a place to " find " them--I just need a

thought. " Aunt Nellie's neighbor's son, whose name I don't

know " is fine. I home in on the requester's thought, and like

following a string, I " find " the neighbor's son. Or he's

shown to me. Or whatever. We work.

8. " Did you work on him as if you were there? " --exactly

so. Or as if " they " are here. As some teachers like

to say, there is no distance, no time--only the eternal here and

now. If you can wrap your head around that, I learned, you can work

with this kind of healing.

9. " How you energy tested remotely to do? " I usually

don't. Hardly ever do, unless working in person. I know this

isn't everyone's cuppatea, and wouldn't want to discourage anyone from

using ET, but it's a step I skip.

I would also like to address a concern from the original poster, " I

feel a little out of my comfort zone speaking about this, a little

intimidated actually since you have had so much " training " in

long distance work. " Melanie, don't feel intimidated. I

know my methods are likely different from those of other people, but like

Dr. LaTourrette, I like to read what others do. You can't quit

learning. Sharing what you do might help others learn, and might

help you learn too. It's kind of interesting how stopping to think

about the actual steps and concepts, then putting them in words, actually

clears up some things at times.

Plus, it really isn't about " us. " The ONE thing I like to

do when using Reiki/InnerSun is to get " me " out of the

way. Totally if possible. Just get out of the way and let the

healing flow. The ONE thing I like to do when using other methods

is to LET GO once I'm done. Once I'm done, I go work in the garden,

or wash the dishes. At some point I'll probably hear from

them. It is usually good news. But if they say, " nothing

happened, " don't worry about it. It's not about us.

Other things might be in the mix, (such as their free will or even more

complicated issues) or it could be a time issue, so just wait and

see. In the end, it's all good.

I do apologize for the length of this, but there were a lot of

questions. Even so, I kind of just skimmed the surface--this could

have been the length of War & Peace, but I'll be merciful and let it

go with this.

Jeanne

At 04:08 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote:

Melanie Foster <mlnfoster wrote:

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> I had an experience with a friends dad in the hospital. My EM was

>deemed to " out there " to do the work in person so I chose

to do the >work long distance

Hi Malanie,

I am curious to the 'how-to's' of your process. How you 'saw' to do? How

you 'felt' to do? How you 'heard' to do? How you 'knew' what else to do?

How you phrased your words to do? How you first removed your own doubts

to do? How you install competency in yourself with that process to do?

How you associated into his energies to do? How you energy tested

remotely to do? Did you work on him as if you were there? I have so many

questions and I've just started.

I would love to see/hear/feel how others are using distance healing to

help others.

I've seen Donna talk about it a couple of times, and I've watched her as

she explains. So much can be effectively learned from that type of

modeling.

John La Tourrette, PhD

[Guest guest]

, Jeanne Garner

<jeanneg wrote:

 

 

Thank you for posting Jeanne.

 

It's been a while. I've missed you.

 

And the length of a post if full of good information is NEVER too long.

 

> magic, and (b) what I had gleaned from books about the Silva method

> (and Silva method copiers).

 

I agree and dis-agree here.

 

It's because of your underlying presupposition with a few of your words.

 

Especially with the word 'copiers'.

 

As a long time Silva student (30 years) and trainer (25 years) and " INNOVATOR "

I do know where Jose Silva copied from (researched) to get his own 'new and

different' method.

 

Many others have systems as good or even better. And they got it by NOT copying

him.

 

Why do I say that?

 

Because Jose purposefully put in his own values and attempted to make sure no

one would mis-use his system in a way he disapproved of.

 

To get your own system without copying is very simple with a little research.

 

Just follow Hudson (1882), follow Atkinson (1905), follow Leadbeater (1901),

Follow Johann Schultz (1919), follow Sid Jacobson (1912), Follow Napoleon Hill

(1928), follow Andrew Salter (1943), Follow that Russian guy " V " from 1928...

 

....and you have a much more usable system WITHOUT the limits Jose built in.

 

Please notice, I am NOT badmouthing Jose.

 

He was a great trainer. He did some wonderful research in hypnosis.

 

In 1965 he had a hypnosis institute in Laredo TX. In 1966, and at that very same

business location, he changed the sign outside that building from " hypnosis

Center " to the Silva Mind Control System as a marketing tactic.

 

He did well with that tactic. I admire it.

 

His system is still alive and well under his daughter Laura.

 

I suggest everyone go to one of their trainings and EXPERIENCE your own internal

growth of expanded awareness as you learn how to bridge those subconscious

levels with consciousness.

 

Then you will be a genius in comparison with where you started before you took

the training.

 

My point being, others (not as well known) have courses just as good...maybe

even better.

 

And they (for the most part) are NOT copycats (there were a few and Jose sued

them and WON), but are good people who have done their own research,

experimentation, and came to their own conclusions.

 

Those are the ones Jose and his attorneys left alone.

 

For example...

 

....I really love what I am now teaching versus what I used to teach for them. It

not only has much of what Jose researched from the greats who came before...

 

....it also has much that he ignored, and from current research that he never had

the opportunity to study and add to his system.

 

The rest of your neat post I did love and appreciate.

 

Thank you.

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

Co-developer, Silva UltraMind ESP Remote Viewing/Remote Influence home study

course.

[Guest guest]

, Jeanne Garner

<jeanneg wrote:

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> Hello from Lurkdom--

 

Hi,

 

Lurkdom must be a crowded place. I know I spend a lot of time there.

 

Sometimes it's difficult to feel worthy to " fly with eagles " .

 

So from this " turkey " , thank you Jeanne, Doc and all the others who contribute

here.

 

The posts of the last week have been exceptional as are the many wonderful posts

in the archives.

 

Reading what works for others brings me back to concentrating on what works.

 

Reading it from the different perspectives of others reminds me that there are

" different strokes . . . "

 

Since I often tend to be too " by the book " , this is very helpful so a great big

" Thank you " .

 

Sincerely,

bbtried(barb)