RE: Hi group, here is one of the backchanneled posts from Eve. Fun;-)

August 12, 2005

LOL - This is turning into a real comedy show. It's incredible how the bit about melatonin and pills were left out of the go down and swallow bit. Thank God I'm no longer into psychoanalysis - I would have had a field day with Eve. Funny thing is, I've always experienced Doc as a pretty honest guy - I'm sure if he wants a BJ he'll just ask. LOL

Johan

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docspeed2001

Friday, August 12, 2005 2:56 AM

Hi group, here is one of the backchanneled posts from Eve. Fun;-)

Eve Bond [resilientee] Please take careSorry if I'm worrying you girlsI do know about abuse and dependence though. I worked in a womans refuge for some years. He is playing the mr nice, mr rough guy all the time. Of course he's crapping himself now and playing mr nice.I just sent him a message saying "KEEP YOUR GRIMY BJ PATTERNS OUT OF MY FACE".Wow, do I feel better!>From what I can see, he is using Japanese Ki exercises to instill amore receptive state for buying his books and getting dependent on the group itself. Here are some books to help you out:Author Galanter, Marc.Title Cults : faith, healing, and coercion / Marc Galanter.Publisher New York : Oxford University Press, 1989.Author Tobias, Madeleine Landau.Title Captive hearts, captive minds : freedom and recovery from cults and other abusive relationships / Madeleine Landau Tobias and Janja Lalich.Publisher St. Leonards, N.S.W. : Allen & Unwin, c1994.I know Chi Kung is very beneficial. But a good teacher will not call them drills (drilling into your what?), and will not use it to create a dependence on the group or get you to change thinking and buy his books.Belief in Chi Kung comes from practice and seeing results. You can all benefit without "doc's" manipulation tactics. I think I will do some more investigation into what he has got up to. Please take careEveI am devastated! I am being harassed. I came to this group to> learn about healing energies. I realize there are some NLPelements> to it also. I have had some knowledge of NLP because of my psychology > background. To me NLP is a way of communicating. Ifyou> understand the language, you can see what people mean. BJ or blow> job patterns are common in NLP groups.>> Here is what John La Tourette was thrusting upon me:>> Go down> Sink your teeth about half way> And swallow>> The article is below>> Now to me, as someone with a knowledge of NLP this is blatant > harassment. He just NLP commanded me to perform fellatio on him,or> at the very least to implant the notion of that act.>> It is a violation> Please help>> Utterly furious> Eve

August 12, 2005

OK...melatonin tablet / penis? COME ON!!! NOBODY has a penis that

small. If she wants to make it isomorphic, then it would be a CLIT,

not a dick.

And given her obvious hatred for men, maybe she should go chew the

carpet awhile. Men don't need the hassles of being with someone suck

as her.

BTW, there is a certain type of attractor field with people who hang

round abused women (or men). I made the mistake of doing a woman who

worked at a shelter who herself had a history of bad relationships.

I was lonely, bored, and really needed some lovin' and she was easy to

bang, and a helluva good kisser, so I went against my good judgement

(and psychic warnings I got about her), and kept going over to her

place. I was lucky that I didn't have a stalker, although she sure

was hateful about the breakup even though SHE said she just wanted a

" fuck buddy " and nothing serious.

I'm busy for the next few days with a friend from out of town -- we're

going to be working on each other's products and helping each other

out with some things we need to make our businesses work (videos,

books, research, websites, etc. I know stuff he doesn't know, and he

can do some things I need to know how to do...), but after that I'll

write up a report on " HOW TO AVOID WACKO'S SO YOU GET THE RELATIONSHIP

YOU WANT " if anybody is interested.

It's real easy to spot wackos when you know the patterns to look for,

when you can recognize their language patterns, and can calibrate your

own feelings for good decision / bad decision.

Have fun!

Jim

>

> On Behalf Of

> docspeed2001

> Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:57 PM

>

> Hi group, here

> is one of the

> backchanneled posts from Eve. Fun;-)

>

> Eve Bond [resilientee]

> Please take care

>

> Sorry if I'm worrying you girls

>

> I do know about abuse and dependence though. I worked in a womans

> refuge for some years. He is playing the mr nice, mr rough guy all

> the time. Of course he's crapping himself now and playing mr nice.

>

> I just sent him a message saying " KEEP YOUR GRIMY BJ

> PATTERNS OUT OF

> MY FACE " .

>

> Wow, do I feel better!

>

> >From what I can see, he is using Japanese Ki exercises to instill a

> more receptive state for buying his books and getting dependent on

> the group itself. Here are some books to help you out:

>

> Author Galanter, Marc.

> Title Cults : faith, healing, and coercion / Marc Galanter.

> Publisher New York : Oxford University Press, 1989.

>

> Author Tobias, Madeleine Landau.

> Title Captive hearts, captive minds : freedom and

> recovery from

> cults and other abusive relationships / Madeleine Landau Tobias and

> Janja Lalich.

> Publisher St. Leonards, N.S.W. : Allen & Unwin, c1994.

>

> I know Chi Kung is very beneficial. But a good teacher will not

> call them drills (drilling into your what?), and will not use it to

> create a dependence on the group or get you to change thinking and

> buy his books.

>

> Belief in Chi Kung comes from practice and seeing results. You can

> all benefit without " doc's " manipulation tactics.

>

> I think I will do some more investigation into what he has got up

> to.

>

> Please take care

> Eve

>

> I am devastated! I am being harassed. I came to this group to

> > learn about healing energies. I realize there are some NLP

> elements

> > to it also. I have had some knowledge of NLP because of my

> psychology

> > background. To me NLP is a way of communicating. If

> you

> > understand the language, you can see what people mean. BJ or

> blow

> > job patterns are common in NLP groups.

> >

> > Here is what John La Tourette was thrusting upon me:

> >

> > Go down

> > Sink your teeth about half way

> > And swallow

> >

> > The article is below

> >

> > Now to me, as someone with a knowledge of NLP this is blatant

> > harassment. He just NLP commanded me to perform fellatio on him,

> or

> > at the very least to implant the notion of that act.

> >

> > It is a violation

> > Please help

> >

> > Utterly furious

> > Eve

August 12, 2005

as a woman who once spent the night in a shelter for abused women & children, i

will heartily second jim's observations. these were some of the darkest, most

miserable, angry and hateful human beings i had *ever* been shocked to witness.

i mean it was akin to walking into an insane asylum (seen those too), albeit a

higher functioning level. it was totally horrifying, and i walked out of there

thinking these people completely deserved once of abuse they got.

eve is pathetic, and i find her phony-assed plaintive cries for " help " to be

more disgusting than i can describe. if it looks like shit, and smells like

shit...

intuitively yours,

- lyn

p.s. jim, i would be interested in seeing your report on how to avoid wackos, as

i am sure others are. not that i have such problem.

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