being SPECIFIC with what you do really INCREASES YOUR SKILLS INSTANTLY!

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God is Intention? Intention is God??

 

Helen

 

 

On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:59 PM, docspeed2001 wrote:

 

> .

>

> So Virginia started doing those 6 SECRET STEPS, consciously, and on

> purpose.

>

>

>

>

> SO, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THIS POST ABOUT?

>

>

> Being SPECIFIC with what you do really INCREASES YOUR SKILLS

> INSTANTLY!

>

>>

>> docspeed2001

>> Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:42 PM

>> Hi Gaytha and group,

>>

>> Actually what you are demonstrating is a " general " is good enough

>> meta-program. As is so often stated, closies are only valid in

>> horseshoes and in atomic fallout.

>>

>> In Chinese Psychology those people that think like that are

>> considered having Water Element traits.

>>

>> Other people, mostly who are in the professional fields, get

> driven

>> up the wall by such non-specific talk. They want the facts and the

>> facts must be correct to 99.99%. That is called a Metal Element

>> trait.

>>

>> Water elements cannot stand Metal elements, because Water elements

>> believe that Metal elements are anal retentive.

>>

>> Metal elements cannot tolerate Water elements because Water

> elements

>> never know what they are talking about, nor what they are really

>> doing.

>>

>> My point being, there are 5 General Chinese Personality profiles

>> with many different variables.

>>

>> In NLP Psychology there are 51 Specific Meta-programs that are

>> combined certain ways to create the many (6 billion +)

> personalities.

>>

>> We have people who chunk up with their thinking and cannot chunk

>> down. We have people who only chunk down and don't have a clue to

>> what you are talking about when you ask them the question, " what's

>> important to you about Silva Mind Control? " They just cannot see

> the

>> many, many possibilities.

>>

>> Training really helps.

>>

>> Your little points about " if it works, who cares? " would be

> thought

>> of as small, stupid and silly by a Metal Element, and also by a

>> person that models behaviors of others so that he can easily and

>> quickly acquire their skills.

>>

>> To model skills accurately he needs to know the specifices, in

>> sequence, and how it leads to the proper behavior he is after, SO

> HE

>> CAN DO IT " SUCCESSFULLY " when ever he desires.

>>

>> Jose Silva was a Metal Element. If you attempted to talk with Jose

>> with loose generalities, he would be polite for about 3 minutes,

>> then get up and walk away.

>>

>> The reason Jose's METHODS work is because he was A METAL ELEMENT

> and

>> Jose made damn sure what he did, how he did it, would work for

>> OTHERS in ways that were IMPORTANT FOR THEM!

>>

>> If you want your skills to work you better know the specifics

> about

>> why they work, how they work, and what else they can work for.

>>

>> Otherwise, when you do a drill, and you do it wrong, you will NOT

>> get what you want nor will you be able to teach it accurately to

>> others.

>>

>> Hopefully this little post about the different types of

> personality

>> profiles will NOT anger, but will inform, since such is my purpose

>> in writting it.

>>

>>

>> Ps. as to your remark about " Gary is the expert " , I'm ignoring

>> because you did NOT back up the statement. I love Gary and his

>> works. I'm certified in his methods (and in many other methods)

> and

>> I've formulated several methods in Energy Psychology on my own

> that

>> work really well. Not to talk about them here because this is a

>> Silva site and I'm focusing on that skill out of respect for Jose

>> and the owners of this site.

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

She believed God = Intuition. Then they told her the cold 'metal'

analysis she could not reconcile with what it means to help people.

So she stopped being intuitive (unconsious process was now conscious

and could be blocked), a very important element when interacting with

people and being flexible. So in a sense she 'frose'.

 

Next she decided that what works is more important than a beliefset,

and started working again, more effective than ever. This was because

she was more specific, and was focussed on the end result.

 

Later on, she was able to put a higher frame on it (Richard and John

were send by God), so she could reconcile the 'harsh analysis' with

her beliefs.

 

Now she was more effective, because she was able to combine the

specific steps + being very intuitive (and feeling good, as this is

very important when being in rapport with the other person) when

interacting with people.

 

 

Anyway, this is my guess

 

 

Frank V

 

 

 

 

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

wrote:

>

> --- " Ronald Daack " <RDaack@> wrote:

>

> > Hi Doc,

> > Glad to see you here on this forum. As a atter of fact glad to

see

> >you on my other forums too.

> > Just want to thank you for all the wonderful knowledge you have

> >shared with me over these last few years.

> > Ron Daack

>

> Hi Ron, glad to be here.

>

> I've had much positive response from many on this list and I do

want

> to thank them for their blessings.

>

> I also want to mention one of the greatest family therapists in the

> world, Virginia Satir.

>

> Virginia was a university trained psychologist that did great work.

>

> She really thought that God was working through her and through her

> intuition.

>

> And she healed many that others just couldn't help.

>

> Then one day she met John and Richard. John and Richard asked

> Virginia permission to film her doing therapy, wanting to model it.

>

> She gave them permission.

>

> After watching her in action and video taping her sessions, John

and

> Richard noticed that when Virgina was successful, SHE ALWAYS DID 6

> THINGS, and ALWAYS did them in the same sequence.

>

> So even though Virginia " thought " God was working through her,

these

> two expert NLP modelers showed her she was actually manipulating

> those who came to her, to get better.

>

> So Virginia stopped doing those 6 things that she used to do

> unconsciously.

>

> And she also stopped helping any of them because those 6 steps were

> necessary.

>

> After several months of depression because she could no longer help

> others, she decided it was better to manipulate them and help them

> than it was to not DO THOSE 6 STEPS.

>

> So Virginia started doing those 6 SECRET STEPS, consciously, and on

> purpose.

>

> Virginia discovered something amazing...

>

> Because her 6 steps were very accurate, NOW it took less that 1/2

> the time to help them than it did before...

>

> ...AND she was able to increase the percentage of those she could

> actually help, WAY BEYOND what she was capable of before.

>

> So, Virginia then thought that God gave her John and Richard to

help

> her get much better at family therapy, and she did.

>

> When Virginia died she was thought of as the BEST FAMILY THERAPIST

> on the planet.

>

> Interesting, YES?

>

> SO, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THIS POST ABOUT?

>

>

> Being SPECIFIC with what you do really INCREASES YOUR SKILLS

> INSTANTLY!

>

> >

> > docspeed2001

> > Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:42 PM

> > Hi Gaytha and group,

> >

> > Actually what you are demonstrating is a " general " is good enough

> > meta-program. As is so often stated, closies are only valid in

> > horseshoes and in atomic fallout.

> >

> > In Chinese Psychology those people that think like that are

> > considered having Water Element traits.

> >

> > Other people, mostly who are in the professional fields, get

> driven

> > up the wall by such non-specific talk. They want the facts and

the

> > facts must be correct to 99.99%. That is called a Metal Element

> > trait.

> >

> > Water elements cannot stand Metal elements, because Water

elements

> > believe that Metal elements are anal retentive.

> >

> > Metal elements cannot tolerate Water elements because Water

> elements

> > never know what they are talking about, nor what they are really

> > doing.

> >

> > My point being, there are 5 General Chinese Personality profiles

> > with many different variables.

> >

> > In NLP Psychology there are 51 Specific Meta-programs that are

> > combined certain ways to create the many (6 billion +)

> personalities.

> >

> > We have people who chunk up with their thinking and cannot chunk

> > down. We have people who only chunk down and don't have a clue to

> > what you are talking about when you ask them the

question, " what's

> > important to you about Silva Mind Control? " They just cannot see

> the

> > many, many possibilities.

> >

> > Training really helps.

> >

> > Your little points about " if it works, who cares? " would be

> thought

> > of as small, stupid and silly by a Metal Element, and also by a

> > person that models behaviors of others so that he can easily and

> > quickly acquire their skills.

> >

> > To model skills accurately he needs to know the specifices, in

> > sequence, and how it leads to the proper behavior he is after, SO

> HE

> > CAN DO IT " SUCCESSFULLY " when ever he desires.

> >

> > Jose Silva was a Metal Element. If you attempted to talk with

Jose

> > with loose generalities, he would be polite for about 3 minutes,

> > then get up and walk away.

> >

> > The reason Jose's METHODS work is because he was A METAL ELEMENT

> and

> > Jose made damn sure what he did, how he did it, would work for

> > OTHERS in ways that were IMPORTANT FOR THEM!

> >

> > If you want your skills to work you better know the specifics

> about

> > why they work, how they work, and what else they can work for.

> >

> > Otherwise, when you do a drill, and you do it wrong, you will NOT

> > get what you want nor will you be able to teach it accurately to

> > others.

> >

> > Hopefully this little post about the different types of

> personality

> > profiles will NOT anger, but will inform, since such is my

purpose

> > in writting it.

> >

> >

> > Ps. as to your remark about " Gary is the expert " , I'm ignoring

> > because you did NOT back up the statement. I love Gary and his

> > works. I'm certified in his methods (and in many other methods)

> and

> > I've formulated several methods in Energy Psychology on my own

> that

> > work really well. Not to talk about them here because this is a

> > Silva site and I'm focusing on that skill out of respect for Jose

> > and the owners of this site.

>

[Guest guest]

This post is about the different stages of skill. Did I change or forget something ? by accident or on purpose so

that others would post the rest... ?

 

 

1. Before you learn something new you aren't even aware that you are clueless. ( Unconscious Incompetence )

 

 

2. At this next stage you realize how bad you are and how much practice you need just to get good. You stumble. ( Conscious incompetence )

Many decide to go back to stage 1. and forget about learning because it was easier not knowing how bad they were at X.

 

 

3. Then you learn a bit and practice------wire in the drills 5,000 times+ you can walk OK ( Conscious Competence )

 

 

4. Then you start to use these skills automatically and can sometimes even run smoothly and aren't even thinking of it ( Unconscious Competence )

At this stage many think they are already finished and are "masters"

 

 

5. Then someone probably asks you to TEACH them how to do X the way that you do it because you are so great and

you stumble around wondering how the hell you learned to do X so well

 

So you have to backwards engineer what you do OR others who are experts at Modeling can help to find out what you do----what you are

feeling, thinking, doing and in what sequence and what order. Like a cake you need the right ingredients and they need to be

cooked, mixed and manipulated in the right sequence to get the best results------consistant and efficient results.

 

 

Michael Twomey

 

P.s. Probably why Doc recommends that we TEACH what we know in order to get even BETTER at what we know and do...

At this stage you can more easily wonder "What ELSE can I do with skill X ?"

 

 

 

 

 

-

docspeed2001

 

6/19/2006 8:03:00 PM

being SPECIFIC with what you do really INCREASES YOUR SKILLS INSTANTLY!

 

 

--- "Ronald Daack" <RDaack wrote:> Hi Doc,> Glad to see you here on this forum. As a atter of fact glad to see >you on my other forums too.> Just want to thank you for all the wonderful knowledge you have >shared with me over these last few years. > Ron DaackHi Ron, glad to be here.I've had much positive response from many on this list and I do want to thank them for their blessings.I also want to mention one of the greatest family therapists in the world, Virginia Satir.Virginia was a university trained psychologist that did great work.She really thought that God was working through her and through her intuition.And she healed many that others just couldn't help.Then one day she met John and Richard. John and Richard asked Virginia permission to film her doing therapy, wanting to model it.She gave them permission.After watching her in action and video taping her sessions, John and Richard noticed that when Virgina was successful, SHE ALWAYS DID 6 THINGS, and ALWAYS did them in the same sequence.So even though Virginia "thought" God was working through her, these two expert NLP modelers showed her she was actually manipulating those who came to her, to get better.So Virginia stopped doing those 6 things that she used to do unconsciously.And she also stopped helping any of them because those 6 steps were necessary.After several months of depression because she could no longer help others, she decided it was better to manipulate them and help them than it was to not DO THOSE 6 STEPS.So Virginia started doing those 6 SECRET STEPS, consciously, and on purpose.Virginia discovered something amazing...Because her 6 steps were very accurate, NOW it took less that 1/2 the time to help them than it did before......AND she was able to increase the percentage of those she could actually help, WAY BEYOND what she was capable of before.So, Virginia then thought that God gave her John and Richard to help her get much better at family therapy, and she did.When Virginia died she was thought of as the BEST FAMILY THERAPIST on the planet.Interesting, YES?SO, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THIS POST ABOUT?Being SPECIFIC with what you do really INCREASES YOUR SKILLS INSTANTLY!> > docspeed2001> Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:42 PM> Hi Gaytha and group,> > Actually what you are demonstrating is a "general" is good enough > meta-program. As is so often stated, closies are only valid in > horseshoes and in atomic fallout.> > In Chinese Psychology those people that think like that are > considered having Water Element traits.> > Other people, mostly who are in the professional fields, get driven > up the wall by such non-specific talk. They want the facts and the > facts must be correct to 99.99%. That is called a Metal Element > trait.> > Water elements cannot stand Metal elements, because Water elements > believe that Metal elements are anal retentive.> > Metal elements cannot tolerate Water elements because Water elements > never know what they are talking about, nor what they are really > doing.> > My point being, there are 5 General Chinese Personality profiles > with many different variables.> > In NLP Psychology there are 51 Specific Meta-programs that are > combined certain ways to create the many (6 billion +) personalities.> > We have people who chunk up with their thinking and cannot chunk > down. We have people who only chunk down and don't have a clue to > what you are talking about when you ask them the question, "what's > important to you about Silva Mind Control?" They just cannot see the > many, many possibilities.> > Training really helps.> > Your little points about "if it works, who cares?" would be thought > of as small, stupid and silly by a Metal Element, and also by a > person that models behaviors of others so that he can easily and > quickly acquire their skills.> > To model skills accurately he needs to know the specifices, in > sequence, and how it leads to the proper behavior he is after, SO HE > CAN DO IT "SUCCESSFULLY" when ever he desires.> > Jose Silva was a Metal Element. If you attempted to talk with Jose > with loose generalities, he would be polite for about 3 minutes, > then get up and walk away.> > The reason Jose's METHODS work is because he was A METAL ELEMENT and > Jose made damn sure what he did, how he did it, would work for > OTHERS in ways that were IMPORTANT FOR THEM!> > If you want your skills to work you better know the specifics about > why they work, how they work, and what else they can work for.> > Otherwise, when you do a drill, and you do it wrong, you will NOT > get what you want nor will you be able to teach it accurately to > others.> > Hopefully this little post about the different types of personality > profiles will NOT anger, but will inform, since such is my purpose > in writting it.> > > Ps. as to your remark about "Gary is the expert", I'm ignoring > because you did NOT back up the statement. I love Gary and his > works. I'm certified in his methods (and in many other methods) and > I've formulated several methods in Energy Psychology on my own that > work really well. Not to talk about them here because this is a > Silva site and I'm focusing on that skill out of respect for Jose > and the owners of this site.

[Guest guest]

Oh, and I forgot to mention THE MOST IMPORTANT thing, something which

can be found in practically all of Docs material:

 

She took the responsability herself now that she was aware that it

was actually she that was having control.

Of course this also means she becomes even better over time, as now

she can consciously look for improvements ('if I could improve

results, what would I do?')she can find when excercising her skills

and adapt her skills (she is now the cause, it was no longer just and

external factor (God), that was making things happen, so she could

further optimize the skills).

 

 

Frank V

 

 

, " Frank V "

<mindexplo wrote:

>

> She believed God = Intuition. Then they told her the cold 'metal'

> analysis she could not reconcile with what it means to help people.

> So she stopped being intuitive (unconsious process was now

conscious

> and could be blocked), a very important element when interacting

with

> people and being flexible. So in a sense she 'frose'.

>

> Next she decided that what works is more important than a

beliefset,

> and started working again, more effective than ever. This was

because

> she was more specific, and was focussed on the end result.

>

> Later on, she was able to put a higher frame on it (Richard and

John

> were send by God), so she could reconcile the 'harsh analysis' with

> her beliefs.

>

> Now she was more effective, because she was able to combine the

> specific steps + being very intuitive (and feeling good, as this is

> very important when being in rapport with the other person) when

> interacting with people.

>

>

> Anyway, this is my guess

>

>

> Frank V

>

>

>

>

>

> healingenergies-

> essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001@>

> wrote:

> >

> > --- " Ronald Daack " <RDaack@> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Doc,

> > > Glad to see you here on this forum. As a atter of fact glad to

> see

> > >you on my other forums too.

> > > Just want to thank you for all the wonderful knowledge you have

> > >shared with me over these last few years.

> > > Ron Daack

> >

> > Hi Ron, glad to be here.

> >

> > I've had much positive response from many on this list and I do

> want

> > to thank them for their blessings.

> >

> > I also want to mention one of the greatest family therapists in

the

> > world, Virginia Satir.

> >

> > Virginia was a university trained psychologist that did great

work.

> >

> > She really thought that God was working through her and through

her

> > intuition.

> >

> > And she healed many that others just couldn't help.

> >

> > Then one day she met John and Richard. John and Richard asked

> > Virginia permission to film her doing therapy, wanting to model

it.

> >

> > She gave them permission.

> >

> > After watching her in action and video taping her sessions, John

> and

> > Richard noticed that when Virgina was successful, SHE ALWAYS DID

6

> > THINGS, and ALWAYS did them in the same sequence.

> >

> > So even though Virginia " thought " God was working through her,

> these

> > two expert NLP modelers showed her she was actually manipulating

> > those who came to her, to get better.

> >

> > So Virginia stopped doing those 6 things that she used to do

> > unconsciously.

> >

> > And she also stopped helping any of them because those 6 steps

were

> > necessary.

> >

> > After several months of depression because she could no longer

help

> > others, she decided it was better to manipulate them and help

them

> > than it was to not DO THOSE 6 STEPS.

> >

> > So Virginia started doing those 6 SECRET STEPS, consciously, and

on

> > purpose.

> >

> > Virginia discovered something amazing...

> >

> > Because her 6 steps were very accurate, NOW it took less that 1/2

> > the time to help them than it did before...

> >

> > ...AND she was able to increase the percentage of those she could

> > actually help, WAY BEYOND what she was capable of before.

> >

> > So, Virginia then thought that God gave her John and Richard to

> help

> > her get much better at family therapy, and she did.

> >

> > When Virginia died she was thought of as the BEST FAMILY

THERAPIST

> > on the planet.

> >

> > Interesting, YES?

> >

> > SO, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THIS POST ABOUT?

> >

> >

> > Being SPECIFIC with what you do really INCREASES YOUR SKILLS

> > INSTANTLY!

> >

> > >

> > > docspeed2001

> > > Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:42 PM

> > > Hi Gaytha and group,

> > >

> > > Actually what you are demonstrating is a " general " is good

enough

> > > meta-program. As is so often stated, closies are only valid in

> > > horseshoes and in atomic fallout.

> > >

> > > In Chinese Psychology those people that think like that are

> > > considered having Water Element traits.

> > >

> > > Other people, mostly who are in the professional fields, get

> > driven

> > > up the wall by such non-specific talk. They want the facts and

> the

> > > facts must be correct to 99.99%. That is called a Metal Element

> > > trait.

> > >

> > > Water elements cannot stand Metal elements, because Water

> elements

> > > believe that Metal elements are anal retentive.

> > >

> > > Metal elements cannot tolerate Water elements because Water

> > elements

> > > never know what they are talking about, nor what they are

really

> > > doing.

> > >

> > > My point being, there are 5 General Chinese Personality

profiles

> > > with many different variables.

> > >

> > > In NLP Psychology there are 51 Specific Meta-programs that are

> > > combined certain ways to create the many (6 billion +)

> > personalities.

> > >

> > > We have people who chunk up with their thinking and cannot

chunk

> > > down. We have people who only chunk down and don't have a clue

to

> > > what you are talking about when you ask them the

> question, " what's

> > > important to you about Silva Mind Control? " They just cannot

see

> > the

> > > many, many possibilities.

> > >

> > > Training really helps.

> > >

> > > Your little points about " if it works, who cares? " would be

> > thought

> > > of as small, stupid and silly by a Metal Element, and also by a

> > > person that models behaviors of others so that he can easily

and

> > > quickly acquire their skills.

> > >

> > > To model skills accurately he needs to know the specifices, in

> > > sequence, and how it leads to the proper behavior he is after,

SO

> > HE

> > > CAN DO IT " SUCCESSFULLY " when ever he desires.

> > >

> > > Jose Silva was a Metal Element. If you attempted to talk with

> Jose

> > > with loose generalities, he would be polite for about 3

minutes,

> > > then get up and walk away.

> > >

> > > The reason Jose's METHODS work is because he was A METAL

ELEMENT

> > and

> > > Jose made damn sure what he did, how he did it, would work for

> > > OTHERS in ways that were IMPORTANT FOR THEM!

> > >

> > > If you want your skills to work you better know the specifics

> > about

> > > why they work, how they work, and what else they can work for.

> > >

> > > Otherwise, when you do a drill, and you do it wrong, you will

NOT

> > > get what you want nor will you be able to teach it accurately

to

> > > others.

> > >

> > > Hopefully this little post about the different types of

> > personality

> > > profiles will NOT anger, but will inform, since such is my

> purpose

> > > in writting it.

> > >

> > >

> > > Ps. as to your remark about " Gary is the expert " , I'm ignoring

> > > because you did NOT back up the statement. I love Gary and his

> > > works. I'm certified in his methods (and in many other methods)

> > and

> > > I've formulated several methods in Energy Psychology on my own

> > that

> > > work really well. Not to talk about them here because this is a

> > > Silva site and I'm focusing on that skill out of respect for

Jose

> > > and the owners of this site.

> >

>