Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Dear Bobbee, I think you cannot make the money by making needles in USA. Even you cannot make the money by making the electronic acupuncture stimulator in USA. No one want to make business without making the money. That's why you see so many articles in the USA market are made in Asia, or China. Americans make airplanes, high-tech devises. Americans even don't make TVs, even though it was invented in USA. One word can anwser your questions, " No profit " . Do you agree with me ? Thanks Mike --- Bee <vangstang wrote: > Hi > I am a student and I'm wondering if there are some > needle > manufacturers in the U.S. or Canada. Does anyone > know. It seems to > me that all the manufacturing comes from Asia. I've > found a few > manufacturers here in the U.S. but only for syringe > needles. > > It seems to me that if we are going to get a firm > grip on the > Acupuncture Industry in the U.S., we should be > producing the > equipment and supplies also. We should also have a > good handle on > where produced, what community it provides jobs for, > the > manufacturing processes (difficult to find out if > its done in > another country, silicon lubricated needles? hmmm). > Its funny how > there are FDA guidelines for needle manufacturing > and packaging. > But how does FDA hold overseas manufacturing > accountable when > patients are hurt by a contaminated needle or a > electrostim machine > that gos nuts and kills a patient. Answer, they > don't. All FDA can > do is take the brand, in question, off of the shelf. > Then the news > of this hurts our entire profession. I'm not saying > that their > products are inferior, I'm just saying this is > something we need to > be accountable for, especially when it comes to our > patients and > livelyhoods. > > In fact, because the manufacturers are all overseas, > that might make > them exempt from product liability suits. Folks, do > you think this > is an issue for our national organizations to look > into? > > > > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting./ps/sb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 In a message dated 2/20/04 3:04:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, vangstang writes: But how does FDA hold overseas manufacturing accountable when patients are hurt by a contaminated needle or a electrostim machine that gos nuts and kills a patient. Is this speculation on your part or do you really know of this type of problem in reality?? Bobbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 I think you are right about that. However, I think if enough practitioners in our industry demand it for product liability reasons and are willing to pay an extra 2-3 cents per needle, than a manufacturer could/would start making some. I thought that I would put the issue out there for us practitioners to discuss. Not that manufacturers abroad have inferior products, I'm confident their products are excellent. But the FDA puts guidelines on the manufacturing of needles in the US. If a needle or electro machine were to go haywire or get contaminated somehow in the shipment, distribution, reselling, disgruntled employee, child labor, etc., the only the FDA would have oversight over is to take the product off the shelf. The liability would still fall on the practitioner and thus may hurt all our livelihoods. In addition to this, if a patient were to be injured by one of our tools, product liability suits may not extend to the manufacturer because many or all of them are overseas. Bobbee toyuli wrote: Dear Bobbee, I think you cannot make the money by making needles in USA. Even you cannot make the money by making the electronic acupuncture stimulator in USA. No one want to make business without making the money. That's why you see so many articles in the USA market are made in Asia, or China. Americans make airplanes, high-tech devises. Americans even don't make TVs, even though it was invented in USA. One word can anwser your questions, " No profit " . Do you agree with me ? Thanks Mike --- Bee <vangstang wrote: > Hi > I am a student and I'm wondering if there are some > needle > manufacturers in the U.S. or Canada. Does anyone > know. It seems to > me that all the manufacturing comes from Asia. I've > found a few > manufacturers here in the U.S. but only for syringe > needles. > > It seems to me that if we are going to get a firm > grip on the > Acupuncture Industry in the U.S., we should be > producing the > equipment and supplies also. We should also have a > good handle on > where produced, what community it provides jobs for, > the > manufacturing processes (difficult to find out if > its done in > another country, silicon lubricated needles? hmmm). > Its funny how > there are FDA guidelines for needle manufacturing > and packaging. > But how does FDA hold overseas manufacturing > accountable when > patients are hurt by a contaminated needle or a > electrostim machine > that gos nuts and kills a patient. Answer, they > don't. All FDA can > do is take the brand, in question, off of the shelf. > Then the news > of this hurts our entire profession. I'm not saying > that their > products are inferior, I'm just saying this is > something we need to > be accountable for, especially when it comes to our > patients and > livelyhoods. > > In fact, because the manufacturers are all overseas, > that might make > them exempt from product liability suits. Folks, do > you think this > is an issue for our national organizations to look > into? > > > > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting./ps/sb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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