[energyhealing-essentialskills] Uneven meridians?

[Guest guest]

At 04:24 PM 3/6/2005 -0600, you wrote:

It's interesting,

though, because I just was looking at someone who is always joking around

and (almost) everybody just likes all the time, and I looked at his TW,

and as I was looking at his TW, I started to get " feelings " or

" impressions " of anger and hate, and then I started to see

orange and black " things " spiking out from his throat

chakra.

I'm not saying that to put him down -- my throat chakra and TW shoot out

sparks too...

I just thought it was interesting how when I was looking at one part of

his energy field, I started to see some other things related to it that I

had not noticed before.

Usually, when I see that spiking stuff, it's anger, or maybe

hostility--and while it might not be universally true, for some folks,

there are times when humor is the cloak for anger and/or hostility.

Just a thought.

 

Jeanne

===--* My stars!

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healingcircle2/

[Guest guest]

Wow, lots of questions!!! Cool...

 

For the bit about why TW can be reinforced by tracing meridians: my understanding of TW is that it is the master plan that keeps us alive so has priority over every other system in the body - in other words it can pull from every other meridian (except heart according to some people but I haven't verified that personally so no comment). If you pump more energy into the system then TW gets more of a pool to pull from UNLESS you do something specific to take down the survival response to a perceived threat.

 

On throat chakras with spikes etc....well, there have been a couple of interesting comments around the use of humour on the creative energies list. Humour can often be at the expense of someone or something....in fact I am trying hard to think of ana example when it might not be so and at the moment I can't think of one. If a thought can affect someone then so can that thought put into words. We speak of "cutting" humour and I think that can be exactly what can happen - a thought form expressed in words moves out from the throat chakra (communication) and cuts through the other persons field. Perhaps the way in which we receive humour depends on whether we are cut by it or whether it reflects our own belief systems? Everyone loves the "fool" of the party....until the sarcastic tongue gets turned in their direction....then it gets more uncomfortable......and then of course if my energy systems are humming, I can just let bitchy comments slide off me or reflect them back - which can be more fun/educational/useful both for me and the other person.....

 

As for uneven meridians.....the class is real life too!!! In my experience, people often have differences between left and right side. Touch for Health talk about the symbolism of meridians and that can be an interesting place to start if you are looking for meaning behind blockages. I usually talk to my clients about symbolism - whilst stressing that I am not a god, have not got the absolute truth and nor am I a magician - if the symbolism resonates with them great, if not, who cares....it doesn't matter - the important thing is getting their systems working and maybe addressing why they weren't in the first place....

 

Hope this is useful

-

James R. Knippenberg

energyhealing-essentialskills

Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:24 PM

[energyhealing-essentialskills] "Uneven" meridians?

Hey there! I was wondering if it's common to have a meridian running better on one side than on another?I know in class, we test either side for the meridian, and then we can fix it on that side and still have it test weak on the other side. Some examples would be spleen meridian or belt line flows.But that's where we just fixed one side on purpose.How common is it to see them "uneven" or "incongruent" in real life where one side is different than the other side?What does it mean?Also, when a meridian is "blocked" or "congested" does the location of the "block" mean anything in particular?And related to that, let's say it's the triple warmer that is more (over) activated on one side than it is on the other, does that relate to the conscious mind and the unconscious mind? Or does it mean something else instead? Some people's TW seems to flare out more on one side than on the other.It's interesting, though, because I just was looking at someone who is always joking around and (almost) everybody just likes all the time, and I looked at his TW, and as I was looking at his TW, I started to get "feelings" or "impressions" of anger and hate, and then I started to see orange and black "things" spiking out from his throat chakra.I'm not saying that to put him down -- my throat chakra and TW shoot out sparks too...I just thought it was interesting how when I was looking at one part of his energy field, I started to see some other things related to it that I had not noticed before.Anyways, how come, when doing the meridians in order, the TW gets activated instead of sedated? Almost everyone I see has an overactive TW, so why would someone want to activate TW on purpose (other than they are cold or some emergency)? (For example, see page 105 in Energy Medicine, where the TW is traced to activate it instead of sedate it.)If a TW that is activated weakens the other meridians, why is it activated in that drill? Or does it only weaken when it is OVER activated? And if so, what's the DIFFERENCE between an activated and an overactivated one?When I see mine sedated, it's like a "cold blue" (to my impressions), and it's either red, orange, or one of those along with black when I'm "pissed off" or "stressed".So what is it SUPPOSED to look like when it is activated but not shutting down the spleen and other meridians?I don't understand why the drill / chart shows how to activate it while doing the meridian drills. I don't like the way mine feels when I activate it (more) on purpose.If you are familiar with that, and know the answer, please let me know. I'm amazed that this afternoon I was SUCCESSFULLY able to see EVERY Triple Warmer I looked at. So at least I can "see" it now! :-)Thanks a bunch for your time and answers!Jim

[Guest guest]

At 10:08 AM 3/7/2005 +0100, you wrote:

 

On throat chakras with spikes

etc....well, there have been a couple of interesting comments around the

use of humour on the creative energies list. Humour can often be at

the expense of someone or something....in fact I am trying hard to think

of ana example when it might not be so and at the moment I can't think of

one.

I can think of some. Of course, sophisticates might just

groan...but I recall one of my favorite nuns in the hospital where I was

training--it was in the 60's and everyone was saying " seeya later

alligater. " This nun was wheeling a gurney onto the smallish

service elevator, where a number of us were waiting for an elevator, and

of course she needed it, so we would have to wait for the next one--and

she grinned at us, and said with a twinkle in her eye, " See ya

later, elevator waiters! " One of my friends, a vegetarian,

typically responds to astrological questions by saying, " I'm a

Vegetarius. " Many puns are not " humor at another's

expense, " and some other types of jokes can be gentle as well.

I'll spare you a further listing. However, as mentioned, sometimes

this kind of gentle humor doesn't always compete well with the more

" biting " and scathing kind that's popular today.

I should mention, though, that your joke probably would not have gotten

the response from me that it did under most circumstances. I

apologize for over-reacting.

 

 

Jeanne

===--* My stars!

http://users.eaokonline.com/~vcl20001/

healingcircle2/

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne and thanks for the humour comments. I like playing with language and am also interested in sociological phenomenon (doo doo dee doo doo) as in how humour evolves and at whose expense - or not....

 

Part of the thrust of my mail was about being human and how we can all over react or even just react - EVEN as therapists so hey, I have no probs with your reaction

 

I am a Brit so supposedly master of sarcasm and wit.....any helpful gentle humour would be gratefully received although as with most jokes I am told, I will most likely forget it!

 

Cris - with an email peppered with gentle humour

 

-

Jeanne Garner

energyhealing-essentialskills

Monday, March 07, 2005 3:34 PM

Re: [energyhealing-essentialskills] "Uneven" meridians?

At 10:08 AM 3/7/2005 +0100, you wrote:

On throat chakras with spikes etc....well, there have been a couple of interesting comments around the use of humour on the creative energies list. Humour can often be at the expense of someone or something....in fact I am trying hard to think of ana example when it might not be so and at the moment I can't think of one. I can think of some. Of course, sophisticates might just groan...but I recall one of my favorite nuns in the hospital where I was training--it was in the 60's and everyone was saying "seeya later alligater." This nun was wheeling a gurney onto the smallish service elevator, where a number of us were waiting for an elevator, and of course she needed it, so we would have to wait for the next one--and she grinned at us, and said with a twinkle in her eye, "See ya later, elevator waiters!" One of my friends, a vegetarian, typically responds to astrological questions by saying, "I'm a Vegetarius." Many puns are not "humor at another's expense," and some other types of jokes can be gentle as well. I'll spare you a further listing. However, as mentioned, sometimes this kind of gentle humor doesn't always compete well with the more "biting" and scathing kind that's popular today.I should mention, though, that your joke probably would not have gotten the response from me that it did under most circumstances. I apologize for over-reacting.

Jeanne ===--* My stars!http://users.eaokonline.com/~vcl20001/healingcircle2/

[Guest guest]

Hi there!

 

Thanks for the reply. I'm curious about the topic of " humor " . How do the solar

plexus and the heart chakras contribute to this?

 

For example, Doc gave us a drill a couple of seminars ago, back in the spring of

last year. After we did energy drills to correct reversals, we did a drill

where we took " joy " and " laughter " and projected it from the right palm into the

heart (physical heart) of another person.

 

When Doc first did the drill to me, it felt as if I had a warm physical hand or

something inside my chest, and it felt as if a dark " blob " that was " stuck "

inside my heart got knocked loose.

 

I don't know what happened, I'm just telling you what it felt like happened.

 

And then he took that energy from the palm chakra and directed it upwards into

the neck (and through the throat chakra) and up into my head.

 

I felt " flooded " with joy and laughed uncontrollably and ALMOST passed out. I

was light headed / " giddy " for a couple of seconds.

 

Now I know that sometimes I screw up an exercise when I go to do it, but I know

that I got the results, too, from that drill. AND I also have successfully done

the same drill with an " energy balls " using the right palm also.

 

So there's the kind of humor that has " joy " and " love " attached to it, and

there's the kind of humor that is more like a " cutting " humor or a biting

sarcasm.

 

And I'm pretty sure that on the " cutting " / biting, vengeful type of humor, that

the heart chakra is closed down / reversed. There's also probably a reversal in

the solar plexus chakra? I'm not sure.

 

I feel " strong " when I go to use biting sarcasm, but since I'm most likely

homolateral at the time, then something that SHOULD weaken will test and also

feel strong. Correct?

 

So I'm pretty sure that with the sarcastic type of humor that is at someone's

expense there are reversals in the heart and s.p. chakras.

 

And there might also (probably) be " spikes " from the TW and S.P. chakra.

 

I know I " see " the ones from the TW. And I've felt/seen ones from the S.P.

chakra before. Or I think I've felt/seen them.

 

For instance, and this might go along with the " cording " questions recently,

too.... One time I was at the airport with my mom and dad, at the end of my

vacation where I went home for a few days, and my dad made a sarcastic comment

that I'm sure he didn't know what he was doing, but it was directed at me, and

it looked / felt like a long, dark " stalgmite " or whatever, turned sideways that

came from HIS solar plexus and " stabbed " me in my solar plexus chakra, and I

felt the pain in my S.P. chakra when he said it. The pain was specifically in

that chakra, and felt like I had been stabbed.

 

Yet when someone uses humor that is not sarcastic or not at someone's expense,

you get a different quality of feeling from it in the chakras and in the radiant

energies.

 

I don't know what it " looks like " yet, or I know and just don't know how to

describe it, or I know and I talked myself out of knowing. LOL

 

Also, you mentioned communication...And on some of the videos Doc has, including

the last seminar, there's examples of people with energy " leaks " in the throat

chakra, and it's because of a reversal in the third chakra (like because they

just had an argument with their wife before the seminar) or there's a closed

down heart chakra, and it causes leaks / energy spikes from the chakras above

it, and fixing the one chakra, fixes the others.

 

Or that's how I interpreted what I saw and heard, anyway.

 

Which is interesting to me, because I " feel " imbalances in my throat chakra

quite frequently, and just working with the throat chakra does not fix the

problem for more than a few seconds, usually.

 

HA! I just remembered to go do the chakra balancing drills Doc taught me last

month.

 

Anyway, thank you for the reply! I don't know as much about this topic as I do

about some other topics, so I got about as happy as a pug in a room full of

friendly people when I started seeing some of these energies the other evening!

Especially when I started getting " impressions " about the one guy I work with.

 

Thanks a bunch for the reply!

Jim

 

 

 

" hunter.cris " <hunter.cris

Mar 7, 2005 1:08 AM

energyhealing-essentialskills

Re: [energyhealing-essentialskills] " Uneven " meridians?

 

Wow, lots of questions!!! Cool...

 

For the bit about why TW can be reinforced by tracing meridians: my

understanding of TW is that it is the master plan that keeps us alive so has

priority over every other system in the body - in other words it can pull from

every other meridian (except heart according to some people but I haven't

verified that personally so no comment). If you pump more energy into the

system then TW gets more of a pool to pull from UNLESS you do something specific

to take down the survival response to a perceived threat.

 

On throat chakras with spikes etc....well, there have been a couple of

interesting comments around the use of humour on the creative energies list.

Humour can often be at the expense of someone or something....in fact I am

trying hard to think of ana example when it might not be so and at the moment I

can't think of one. If a thought can affect someone then so can that thought

put into words. We speak of " cutting " humour and I think that can be exactly

what can happen - a thought form expressed in words moves out from the throat

chakra (communication) and cuts through the other persons field. Perhaps the

way in which we receive humour depends on whether we are cut by it or whether it

reflects our own belief systems? Everyone loves the " fool " of the

party....until the sarcastic tongue gets turned in their direction....then it

gets more uncomfortable......and then of course if my energy systems are

humming, I can just let bitchy comments slide off me or reflect them back -

which can be more fun/educational/useful both for me and the other person.....

 

As for uneven meridians.....the class is real life too!!! In my experience,

people often have differences between left and right side. Touch for Health

talk about the symbolism of meridians and that can be an interesting place to

start if you are looking for meaning behind blockages. I usually talk to my

clients about symbolism - whilst stressing that I am not a god, have not got the

absolute truth and nor am I a magician - if the symbolism resonates with them

great, if not, who cares....it doesn't matter - the important thing is getting

their systems working and maybe addressing why they weren't in the first

place....

 

Hope this is useful

 

Cris

[Guest guest]

That's interesting that you said that, because the person I was referring to gets really frustrated and really PISSED off very easily.

 

For instance, on topic X, if they are not always 100% correct, and have 100% of the approval, they get mad and drop the topic, but as long as nobody disagrees with them, they will yap and yap and yap for hours without having any point at all to what they are trying to say, even though they are getting paid to work instead.

 

An example was yesterday someone brought up the topic of guns. I'm not arguing for or against them here. I have them. Two other people were interested in the conversation, so "guy" had a chance to be popular. So the guy starts talking about some of the handguns he's used.

 

So I figured, "cool! a topic we can have rapport on!"

 

So instead of whether or not people should or shouldn't have them, the topic was on how one performed versus another. And how we liked one more than another. Turns out he's more concerned with "liking" than with "performance". I bought almost all of MINE for a specific performance reason.

 

And a little paranoid voice inside my head told me I "SHOULDN'T" tell him what kind of gun I have, but I figured it was just paranoia, and I told him anyway, because that gives reference points that says I know what I'm talking about, too, because we've both had the experience of shooting a particular type of gun.

 

Well, he started to tell me why a .44 is a bad choice for a handgun, and I AGREED with him, and then I added in MORE reasons why that have to do with basic performance of off the shelf ammo for a .44 mag.

 

The guy got pissed because I knew more than he did, and he ended the conversation because he wasn't the "authority" telling me something so he could look good.

 

The guy used to be an exec w/ a big telecom co where he flew all over the U.S. and England and told people what to do, so I have no idea what he's doing at the job where I work.

 

Anyway, whenever he's not seen as the guy with all the answers or the guy who gets to look good to everyone (no matter what the topic is), he gets really agitated.

 

And, yes, Doc, I KNOW that when I'm homolateral that my voice makes people want to stop talking with me (secret of invisibility?!?!?!) BUT remember the TOPIC. That topic makes me happy. :-)Anyway, back to Jeanne's post....I don't know if you like my gun metaphor or not, but the one example of a recent conversation with the person last night reminded me of what you just posted.

 

I guess one thing I could start to do is to energy test: "This person is joking because they are friendly" and "This person is joking because they are trying to hide something", and then look at the energy fields based on that / those answers?

 

Then the next question, I suppose, would be whether or not I choose to help them. And in what way(s).

 

Thanks for the post! It really makes sense, too. Maybe the biggest example of that would be some of the stand up comedians who always have "jokes" about the things they are angry about. They're a little on the extreme side, though.

I wonder if I could sit down and record people when they're using humor to disect their anchors for joy, their anchors for happiness, their anchors for anger and sarcasm and being pissed off... Their anchors for hostility so I could fire off a break state just at the point where they start to become hostile...

 

Cool! That should keep me busy for awhile now!

Thanks!

Jim

 

 

 

Jeanne Garner Mar 6, 2005 3:05 PM energyhealing-essentialskills Re: [energyhealing-essentialskills] "Uneven" meridians? At 04:24 PM 3/6/2005 -0600, you wrote:

It's interesting, though, because I just was looking at someone who is always joking around and (almost) everybody just likes all the time, and I looked at his TW, and as I was looking at his TW, I started to get "feelings" or "impressions" of anger and hate, and then I started to see orange and black "things" spiking out from his throat chakra.I'm not saying that to put him down -- my throat chakra and TW shoot out sparks too...I just thought it was interesting how when I was looking at one part of his energy field, I started to see some other things related to it that I had not noticed before.

Usually, when I see that spiking stuff, it's anger, or maybe hostility--and while it might not be universally true, for some folks, there are times when humor is the cloak for anger and/or hostility. Just a thought.

Jeanne ===--* My stars!http://users.eaokonline.com/~vcl20001/healingcircle2/

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

 

Hmmmm.....humour.....maybe it has to do with the intention of the humour. If humour is sent out with love then it will connect with the person with "love" energy - unless of course they are switched, in which case they may not receive it that way at all.

 

What you were saying about the throat chakra reminded me that one of Donna's TAs Jack help me out here, I can't remember which one) sees the throat chakra as having different chambers with each chamber connecting to each of the main chakras. there is a stretching exercise that you can use which should bring balance to the whole system only through using the throat chakra however my experience mirros yours in that I have found that there is usually a chakra in the driving seat. This chakra can throw the others out and will continue to do so until "its" issues are resolved.

 

Of course if someone has a mindset or habit field that attracts those kinds of issues to them then you can balanace to your hearts content - the chakras will carry on going out - hence the value of combining diferent approaches and using differnt systems to achieve balance in the first place.

 

I think the chakras are important for the person "sending" humour but also for the person receiving it and maybe that is where the cords come in in such a big way. I see it like this - we all have cords, some of them useful and some less so. If I have a cord already established so to speak then if someone sends out even the smallest cord which resonates with that cord, it will add to it and make it stronger; Bigger isn't always better cos it might be a cord which is getting in the way of me moving forward. If my energies are screwed up then I might also be VERY attached to this cord (forgive the pun).

 

So cords can make a big difference to the way in which I receive and send out stuff. becoming aware of how I do this is the first step in working out what my cords are and getting shot of the ones which aren't helpful to me. Of course, I may have people around me who are interested in maintaining my cords cos it maintains theirs so removing them might take a bit of effort. jack knows a whole lot more about this one than me but that is my understanding of the process.....

 

As for seeing energy - cords or otherwise - it's like driving a car, it takes a bit of effort at first but then you find that you can multi task and see energies at the same time......just watch out for the unexpected that makes you realise that you were actually on autopilot!!!!!

 

I run relaxation groups andit always amazes me that people expect to be able to relax with no effort whatsoever when they spend their whole life being tense and are prepared to invest a whole lot of time in thinking/worrying:preparing for exams etc etc etc but no time in relaxing; It sounds paradoxical - taking the time and EFFORT to relax but it is a skill and skills need practice - so does seeing energy. Reminds me of a whole other conversation on another group about the first time Jack saw anger energy.....

 

I see energy more often these days than not and I have my own wee blocks about seeing the energy of those people closest to me - which bugs the hell out of me cos it is PRECISELY those energies that I would like to see - mostly I just try to have fun with it.......

PS - I "feel" comments from other people in all my chakras but it took me a while to work out that that was what I was feeling - if that makes sense.....

 

-

James R. Knippenberg

energyhealing-essentialskills

Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:26 PM

Re: [energyhealing-essentialskills] "Uneven" meridians?

Hi there!Thanks for the reply. I'm curious about the topic of "humor". How do the solar plexus and the heart chakras contribute to this?For example, Doc gave us a drill a couple of seminars ago, back in the spring of last year. After we did energy drills to correct reversals, we did a drill where we took "joy" and "laughter" and projected it from the right palm into the heart (physical heart) of another person.When Doc first did the drill to me, it felt as if I had a warm physical hand or something inside my chest, and it felt as if a dark "blob" that was "stuck" inside my heart got knocked loose.I don't know what happened, I'm just telling you what it felt like happened.And then he took that energy from the palm chakra and directed it upwards into the neck (and through the throat chakra) and up into my head.I felt "flooded" with joy and laughed uncontrollably and ALMOST passed out. I was light headed / "giddy" for a couple of seconds.Now I know that sometimes I screw up an exercise when I go to do it, but I know that I got the results, too, from that drill. AND I also have successfully done the same drill with an "energy balls" using the right palm also.So there's the kind of humor that has "joy" and "love" attached to it, and there's the kind of humor that is more like a "cutting" humor or a biting sarcasm.And I'm pretty sure that on the "cutting" / biting, vengeful type of humor, that the heart chakra is closed down / reversed. There's also probably a reversal in the solar plexus chakra? I'm not sure.I feel "strong" when I go to use biting sarcasm, but since I'm most likely homolateral at the time, then something that SHOULD weaken will test and also feel strong. Correct?So I'm pretty sure that with the sarcastic type of humor that is at someone's expense there are reversals in the heart and s.p. chakras.And there might also (probably) be "spikes" from the TW and S.P. chakra.I know I "see" the ones from the TW. And I've felt/seen ones from the S.P. chakra before. Or I think I've felt/seen them.For instance, and this might go along with the "cording" questions recently, too.... One time I was at the airport with my mom and dad, at the end of my vacation where I went home for a few days, and my dad made a sarcastic comment that I'm sure he didn't know what he was doing, but it was directed at me, and it looked / felt like a long, dark "stalgmite" or whatever, turned sideways that came from HIS solar plexus and "stabbed" me in my solar plexus chakra, and I felt the pain in my S.P. chakra when he said it. The pain was specifically in that chakra, and felt like I had been stabbed.Yet when someone uses humor that is not sarcastic or not at someone's expense, you get a different quality of feeling from it in the chakras and in the radiant energies.I don't know what it "looks like" yet, or I know and just don't know how to describe it, or I know and I talked myself out of knowing. LOLAlso, you mentioned communication...And on some of the videos Doc has, including the last seminar, there's examples of people with energy "leaks" in the throat chakra, and it's because of a reversal in the third chakra (like because they just had an argument with their wife before the seminar) or there's a closed down heart chakra, and it causes leaks / energy spikes from the chakras above it, and fixing the one chakra, fixes the others.Or that's how I interpreted what I saw and heard, anyway.Which is interesting to me, because I "feel" imbalances in my throat chakra quite frequently, and just working with the throat chakra does not fix the problem for more than a few seconds, usually.HA! I just remembered to go do the chakra balancing drills Doc taught me last month.Anyway, thank you for the reply! I don't know as much about this topic as I do about some other topics, so I got about as happy as a pug in a room full of friendly people when I started seeing some of these energies the other evening! Especially when I started getting "impressions" about the one guy I work with.Thanks a bunch for the reply!Jim"hunter.cris" <hunter.crisMar 7, 2005 1:08 AMenergyhealing-essentialskills Subject: Re: [energyhealing-essentialskills] "Uneven" meridians?Wow, lots of questions!!! Cool...For the bit about why TW can be reinforced by tracing meridians: my understanding of TW is that it is the master plan that keeps us alive so has priority over every other system in the body - in other words it can pull from every other meridian (except heart according to some people but I haven't verified that personally so no comment). If you pump more energy into the system then TW gets more of a pool to pull from UNLESS you do something specific to take down the survival response to a perceived threat.On throat chakras with spikes etc....well, there have been a couple of interesting comments around the use of humour on the creative energies list. Humour can often be at the expense of someone or something....in fact I am trying hard to think of ana example when it might not be so and at the moment I can't think of one. If a thought can affect someone then so can that thought put into words. We speak of "cutting" humour and I think that can be exactly what can happen - a thought form expressed in words moves out from the throat chakra (communication) and cuts through the other persons field. Perhaps the way in which we receive humour depends on whether we are cut by it or whether it reflects our own belief systems? Everyone loves the "fool" of the party....until the sarcastic tongue gets turned in their direction....then it gets more uncomfortable......and then of course if my energy systems are humming, I can just let bitchy comments slide off me or reflect them back - which can be more fun/educational/useful both for me and the other person.....As for uneven meridians.....the class is real life too!!! In my experience, people often have differences between left and right side. Touch for Health talk about the symbolism of meridians and that can be an interesting place to start if you are looking for meaning behind blockages. I usually talk to my clients about symbolism - whilst stressing that I am not a god, have not got the absolute truth and nor am I a magician - if the symbolism resonates with them great, if not, who cares....it doesn't matter - the important thing is getting their systems working and maybe addressing why they weren't in the first place....Hope this is usefulCris