Several things can be learned from NDE's & OBE's

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Hi Sandy,

 

 

 

 

>So, in many many cases a OBE or a NDE is to help the person that had

> that experience grow in his own skills and abilities.

>

> Other cases, one of the ways of growing is to realize BECAUSE OF

THE

> EXPERIENCE, that there is something besides this mortal body, and

> that " life " (now defined a bit differently) goes on after the body

> is no longer usuable. That's a belief change. That's a Value

change.

> That's an identity change. So they no longer have the FEAR of death.

>

> There is much more information available if anyone is interested???

>

> Sandy Godheart

>

 

 

I have never had a NDE, however I have had several OBE's. This for me

did not prove that one could exist without a body, only that we can

create a virtual reality in our mind and receive information non

locally (just like we can get info by remote viewing).

I have read about many NDE related topics, like people 'remembering'

previous lives, seeing things in the operating room while being

clinically death etc. All this information did show me that maybe

there really is something to it, however I could also each time come

up with alternative explanations that do not require the idea we live

on after one life (e.g. remembering previous lives --> 'tuning into'

other people which match us vibrationally etc).

So, I'm still doing what I can to get a good answer/experience that

convinces me (e.g. mediation, hemi sync, hypnosis, etc), and I hope

to get it before it's too late

 

I think this is also linked in some way with the idea that we are

born with a purpose (most seem to think the purpose it to

grow/learn). Sure, this is a belief that is very usefull to have and

helps to live a life as full as possible. I do my best to live by it.

Unfortunately up till now I still have not managed to really convince

myself of this. I look around, and can not imagine that most people

really have a purpose here, they live like robots. Then I evaluate my

life, and the feeling creeps on me that one day it will be over and

that will be it. The purpose one believes one has is just a context

dependant strategy (for this life) that we like to extrapolate beyond

this life. I also do not 'believe' this, I just don't know one way or

the other.

 

So, for me the question is: how can one really become convinced in

life after death? Maybe this is the same as some people believing in

a god or whatever. They just do. And I don't because I need to have

an experience that convinces me. As long as I haven't I'm agnostic

regarding this issue.