Energy Secrets of Tapping IN a NEW BELI...

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In a message dated 5/23/05 4:45:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, docspeed2001 writes:

 

 

....so, AFTER the SUDS is down to a 0-1, or a 2, then tap in a BETTER

BELIEF...

 

i.e., for the Psychological Reversal say, "Even though it's NOT

believable that it's NOT a big deal, I deeply love and accept

myself" (3X's as you do the chest lymphatic, or the karate chop

point...

 

....THEN using the "sandwich", tapp in, "it's NOT a big deal".

 

This will give her a total new belief about what she "used to have".

 

 

 

Hi Doc:

 

I have been "playing" with a similar approach lately. What I do for regular set up statements is to focus on the Loving and Accepting myself first. An example might be: "I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself unconditionally, even though ........(issue statement).

 

The "Playing" around part is that I tap in the positive statement once the issue is down to a 0 or 1 on the SUD's scale, in this way. While tapping the Karate spot, I would say: "I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself unconditionally AND I ......(put in positive statement)... Then I just tap the points with the positive statement.

 

An example that I might share is that when I had a pain.....I tapped it away the regular way, THEN I tapped in the positive with a global statement, for instance..." I deeply and completely love and accept myself unconditionally and I have perfect health." Then I tapped all the points with "I have perfect health" It seems to sort of raise my internal energy. I don't know how to explain it, but I feel this tingle of excitement in my body. Does that make sense?

 

Paulina

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>What I do for regular set up statements is to focus on the Loving and Accepting myself first. An example might be: "I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself.

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> While tapping the Karate spot, I would say: "I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself unconditionally AND I ......(put in positive statement)... Then I just tap the points with the positive statement.

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Pandora: The acceptance statement is great.

I've never bought into the "even though" stuff of EFT.

Why open negative files?

Total unconditional acceptance is optimum.

 

30 years ago I did a month retreat with Ken Keyes jr. and we did the acceptance affirmations. They were anchored in in many direrent ways but with no stirring up of old counter effective programs.

However, the tapping of the third eyes to anchor the preferred state is effective.

That could be added to the ritual repetition of the pathways.

Ken's First law of Higher consciousness is:

"LOVE EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY---INCLUDING YOURSELF".

 

BTW. here's the script of Ken's 12 pathways to higer consciousness

http://community-2.webtv.net/babaluie/LivingLoveThe/page3.html

 

rusty

 

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Pandora51

Monday, May 23, 2005 7:03 AM

Re: Energy Secrets of Tapping IN a NEW BELI...

In a message dated 5/23/05 4:45:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, docspeed2001 writes:

....so, AFTER the SUDS is down to a 0-1, or a 2, then tap in a BETTER BELIEF...i.e., for the Psychological Reversal say, "Even though it's NOT believable that it's NOT a big deal, I deeply love and accept myself" (3X's as you do the chest lymphatic, or the karate chop point......THEN using the "sandwich", tapp in, "it's NOT a big deal".This will give her a total new belief about what she "used to have".Hi Doc:I have been "playing" with a similar approach lately. What I do for regular set up statements is to focus on the Loving and Accepting myself first. An example might be: "I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself unconditionally, even though ........(issue statement). The "Playing" around part is that I tap in the positive statement once the issue is down to a 0 or 1 on the SUD's scale, in this way. While tapping the Karate spot, I would say: "I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself unconditionally AND I ......(put in positive statement)... Then I just tap the points with the positive statement. An example that I might share is that when I had a pain.....I tapped it away the regular way, THEN I tapped in the positive with a global statement, for instance..." I deeply and completely love and accept myself unconditionally and I have perfect health." Then I tapped all the points with "I have perfect health" It seems to sort of raise my internal energy. I don't know how to explain it, but I feel this tingle of excitement in my body. Does that make sense?Paulina

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Pandora51@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/23/05 4:45:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> docspeed2001 writes:

>

> >

> > ...so, AFTER the SUDS is down to a 0-1, or a 2, then tap in a

BETTER

> > BELIEF...

> >

> > i.e., for the Psychological Reversal say, " Even though it's NOT

> > believable that it's NOT a big deal, I deeply love and accept

> > myself " (3X's as you do the chest lymphatic, or the karate chop

> > point...

> >

> > ...THEN using the " sandwich " , tapp in, " it's NOT a big deal " .

> >

> > This will give her a total new belief about what she " used to

have " .

> >

> >

>

> Hi Doc:

>

> I have been " playing " with a similar approach lately. What I do

for regular

> set up statements is to focus on the Loving and Accepting myself

first. An

> example might be: " I deeply and completely LOVE and ACCEPT myself

> unconditionally, even though ........(issue statement).

>

> The " Playing " around part is that I tap in the positive statement

once the

> issue is down to a 0 or 1 on the SUD's scale, in this way. While

tapping the

> Karate spot, I would say: " I deeply and completely LOVE and

ACCEPT myself

> unconditionally AND I ......(put in positive statement)... Then I

just tap the

> points with the positive statement.

>

> An example that I might share is that when I had a pain.....I

tapped it away

> the regular way, THEN I tapped in the positive with a global

statement, for

> instance... " I deeply and completely love and accept myself

unconditionally and

> I have perfect health. " Then I tapped all the points with " I have

perfect

> health " It seems to sort of raise my internal energy. I don't

know how to

> explain it, but I feel this tingle of excitement in my body. Does

that make

> sense?

 

Yes, it does make sense, and not only does it make sense, it has

been verified scientifically.

 

Keep on doing that.

 

 

> Paulina

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>I sometimes just use the positive affirmation tapping sequence, just for the heck of it, it makes me feel good....

 

Excellent outcome, Paulina

 

Regarding the even thoughs:

>What I mean is, that sometimes I hear in my practice patients saying (although not quite that openly)...."when I lose such and such amount of weight, I will be happy and do such and such," or jobs, or boyfriends/girlfriends, dump a husband or wife, etc. It's almost like life has to be postponed until some condition is met. Saying "Even though (something is not perfect), I can still love and accept myself.

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Valid point, and in that case by all means use the full EFT.

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>most of us (generalizing here a lot) have gotten the idea that we have to reach some form of perfection in order to be lovable and acceptable, even by ourselves. What a great message to the subconscious (and energetically), that it's ok to be imperfect, yet still not reject those parts of us that are not perfect, yet.

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If one is attached to the expectation then this point requires as much, if not more, focus that the original 'problem'.

Attachments to Expectations leads to suffering, don'tcha think, and this may be the root cause of the neurosis?

 

However, As long as one is not attached to the Expectation of the results then this would not be necessary.

 

"Unconditional acceptance" pre supposes that we accept ourselves, warts included, and that there is no ideal.

But there is a positive direction and I want to put 100% focus in that direction.

I could spend hours going throught my psyche finding things to 'even tho' and in my case all I would be doing is reinforcing the impasse, and building a victim script rather than getting on with the purpose.

I'm not dismissing the even though, just putting it in perspective.

 

As you pointed out: > (generalizing here a lot)

That was my entire point on the EFT "even thoughs"

This Blanket approach is not for everyone.

 

Use if required in a SPECIFIC situation but If not required why bring up a negative?

 

>The other comment I wanted to make about Ken, "love everyone unconditionally, including yourself," is great, but he does not say HOW to do it.

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LOL. That's what we did for a month intensive.

The emotional burning in for his statement was exhausting but exhilarating.

 

 

Love it ALL..

rusty

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pandora51

Monday, May 23, 2005 6:27 PM

Re: Energy Secrets of Tapping IN a NEW BELI...

In a message dated 5/23/05 5:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lwinmorgan writes:

30 years ago I did a month retreat with Ken Keyes jr. and we did the acceptance affirmations. They were anchored in in many direrent ways but with no stirring up of old counter effective programs. However, the tapping of the third eyes to anchor the preferred state is effective. That could be added to the ritual repetition of the pathways. Ken's First law of Higher consciousness is:"LOVE EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY---INCLUDING YOURSELF". Hi ya Rusty: Thank you for the link, I will access it a bit later. What I wanted to say was that I DO think that the "even though" statement is necessary, although I put mine in a different place than the traditional protocol.The reason that I think it is necessary, is that (and I don't know how this really works, even from a psychological perspective), is that most of us (generalizing here a lot) have gotten the idea that we have to reach some form of perfection in order to be lovable and acceptable, even by ourselves. What a great message to the subconscious (and energetically), that it's ok to be imperfect, yet still not reject those parts of us that are not perfect, yet.What I mean is, that sometimes I hear in my practice patients saying (although not quite that openly)...."when I lose such and such amount of weight, I will be happy and do such and such," or jobs, or boyfriends/girlfriends, dump a husband or wife, etc. It's almost like life has to be postponed until some condition is met. Saying "Even though (something is not perfect), I can still love and accept myself. There seems to be (for me, at least), a sense of relief, which is accompanied by a deep sigh a lot of the times (yes I know it might also be energy movement), but I sense it as a relief....like my body/mind is saying, "I don't have to be or do anything, I am loved and accepted "even though" I am flawed (temporarily, hopefully).The other comment I wanted to make about Ken, is that I have at least one dusty book of his someplace, and although I no longer remember it's contents, the phrase that you posted "love everyone unconditionally, including yourself," is great, but he does not say HOW to do it. I hear a lot of SHOULD's, and lots of people get shoulded on, but no body says HOW to do what one SHOULD do. I sometimes just use the positive affirmation tapping sequence, just for the heck of it, it makes me feel good....and when an issue or something comes up, I do the regular protocol (in my way).Paulina a/k/a Pandora lol

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At 08:27 AM 5/24/2005, Rusty wrote:

As you

pointed out: > (generalizing here a lot)

That was my entire point on the EFT " even thoughs "

This Blanket approach is not for everyone.

 

Use if required in a SPECIFIC situation but If

not required why bring up a negative?

 

Rusty,

Something to consider.

One of the original purposes of the " even though " statement was

not to bring up a negative but to accept and not resist the

negative-resistance that already exist in the energy system and to

discharge or pull the energy out of it so that it would no longer have an

effect on the energy flow. (In other words it was EFT's attempt at being

" sung " .)

That is why it was used originally in TFT after muscle testing and they

found (if my memory is correct) 70-80% of the time there was a

Psychological Reverse. The purpose for the set-up statement ( " even

though " ) was to address PR's. A PR is where consciously you don't

think there is any resistance but unconsciously or energy body wise there

is resistance.

When Gary Craig took EFT separate from TFT to make it an all purpose

protocol to use on everything vs the Gary Craig protocol that TFTer's

were taught to use when none of the TFT specific protocol's worked, the

set-up statement ( " even though " ) was used with the Craig

protocol because 70-80% of the time it is needed.

Another possible way of looking at it is Energy Psychologies work on

changing the flow so that positive and negative both flow through. (The

fourth presupposition of the energy model. Human beings are conduits, not

containers. Bottom of the page

http://www.achieve-your-potential.com/health-triangle.html

) What works linguistically for language does not necessarily work on the energy level. When we are working linguistically we are working on a level that effects energy. When we are working on the energy level EP's, EM, etc...) we are effecting energy directly.

Linguistically, staying away from or avoiding negatives can be useful to send energy in a particular direction (Energy flows where attention goes.) And yet the Energy Psychology's such as EFT-Shallow PEAT use of a set-up phrase is not designed to focus attention so much as it is to acknowledge what is already there. Linguistically it would be embracing to mitigate and dissipate vs.resisting by denial. Taoism it would be acknowledging both the yin/yang of the issue.

Hope this helps on the understanding side.

 

Utilize Everything,

Dr. Houston (Doc Results) Vetter

" Being healthy is merely the slowest possible way for someone to die. " My Grampa Vetter

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>That is why it was used originally in TFT after muscle testing and >theyfound

(if my memory is correct) 70-80% of the time there was a >Psychological Reverse.

The purpose for the set-up statement ( " even >though " ) was to address PR's. A PR

is where consciously you don't >think there is any resistance but unconsciously

or energy body wise >there is resistance.

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Excellent calibration .

Now that would put me in the the 20-30 percent minority that did not

require it.

 

The next calibration would be to check whether or not it is

counterproductive.

 

sung.

rusty

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> > Use if required in a SPECIFIC situation but If not required why bring up

> > a negative?

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> One of the original purposes of the " even though " statement was not to

> bring up a negative but to accept and not resist the

> negative-resistance...

> Another possible way of looking at it is Energy Psychologies work on

> changing the flow so that positive and negative both flow through...

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In agreement with Doc Results' post: Yet another way to look at it is Bill

Harris's idea that resistance causes discomfort (or distress). By

eliminating the resistance, we reduce the discomfort.

 

Blessings,

 

Paddy

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At 05:02 AM 5/25/2005, Paddy wrote:

In agreement with Doc Results' post: Yet another way to look at it is

Bill

Harris's idea that resistance

causes discomfort (or distress). By

eliminating the resistance, we reduce the

discomfort.

Paddy,

You are correct. The concept goes back to Buddha and the Tao before

him.

As the discovery statement of Energy Psychology is " The cause of all

pain, diseases or suffering is a disruption in the energy

flow " .

The Spiritual discovery statement is " The cause of all pain, disease

or suffering is resistance to what is. "

Two different ways of saying the same thing. It depends on which

group/person I'm working with as to which statement I'd use.

Utilize Everything,

Dr. Houston Vetter

" Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying

there in hospitals dying of nothing. " My Grampa Vetter