Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hi there, many years ago I had a similar patient or exactly the same really. I tried many different appraoches and finally someone told me: but that when the yang energy starts flowing thruogh the bladdermeridian. I couldn't find the theory but just tried it with succes. Of course there's maybe more points needed to treat the rest of your patients condition but with mine the waking up at 3am stopped when I needled bl 1 jingming on both sides. greetings Rob Jansen The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 3am is the beginning of the tiger hour. Horse and dog year people could benefit from treatments in this hour. Monkey and rat,dragon year births..beware? jdicanio wrote:All, I have a client who wakes up at around 3am in the morning every day. Any thoughts on which meridian would cause this or what would be behind it? Looking forward to your response. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 acupuncture , jdicanio@a... wrote: > All, > I have a client who wakes up at around 3am in the morning every day. Any > thoughts on which meridian would cause this or what would be behind it? > > Looking forward to your response. > Judy > Without any other info, There are acupuncture techniques I would try. Both are based on the chinese clock. As you know 3-5am is the time of the lung. Sometimes if the energy leaving the liver is blocked from entering the lung this can cause waking up at this time. You can do entry/exit treatment, Liver 14/lung 1. Check if lung 1 is very sore this can comfirm that this treatment might help. There is another very elegant technique called " shigo " in japanese(midnight/noon needling).This is where you use points opposite the chinese clock to treat syptoms at a particular time. Since the insomnia is happening at 3am, the opposite would be urinary Bladder. So you would traditionally use the luo point on the bladder, although other points will work. I would search for a very sore point on bladder channel below the knee or treat luo point. This technique is usually done with a gold needle, but have seen it work with a stainless. Personally I would use 5-7 cones of direct moxa(1/2 rice size) on the point. Also, if you treat them at 3pm(opposite clock) often you get better results! Without any D+D this is what comes to mind. Hope this helps, Michael PS. If you are in an area with daylight savings time, all chinese clock treatments must be ajusted for this. So, 3am is actually 2am!!!(spring foward) Which puts it right in the middle of liver time, so opposite liver is Small intestine. So a point on small Intestine might actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 > jdicanio wrote:All, > I have a client who wakes up at around 3am in the morning every day. Any > thoughts on which meridian would cause this or what would be behind it? Has anyone mentioned Liver or Lung? I do see a correlation to the opposite side of the clock in the B someone else mentioned- so that makes some sense- but the active meridians at 3am are Liver and Lung- specifically, that's when the qi moves from the Liv merid to the Lung merid- so you could do an exit-entry treatment- use the exit pt of the Liver (1-3am) which is Liv14 and the entry pt of the Lung (3-5am), Lung 1. Not sure about technique- if you're daring, you could try threading from Lv14 to Lu1, or just needling both, even putting a press tack in each when you're done- I'd do it bilaterally. Of course, I'd also look for Liv heat (Liv2 & 3), and consider other calm shen pts like P5 or 7, etc. B Brian Benjamin Carter, M.Sci., L.Ac. http://www.pulsemed.org/briancarterbio.htm Acupuncturist & Herbalist Editor, The Pulse of Oriental Medicine Columnist, Acupuncture Today (619) 208-1432 San Diego (866) 206-9069 x 5284 Tollfree Voicemail The PULSE of Oriental Medicine http://www.pulsemed.org/ The General Public's Guide to Chinese Medicine since 1999... 9 Experts, 240+ Articles, 195,000+ readers.... Our free e-zine BEING WELL keeps you up to date Sign up NOW. Send a blank email to: beingwellnewsletter- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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