skeptical of Chinese medicine - need more info.

[Guest guest]

What you describe is not the practice of . Perhaps he is a

physic practitioner but there is nothing in your description which would

qualify this person to say what he/she is doing is . Perhaps

the herbal formula's used are from . There are people who can

read energy fields, faces, eyes, etc., and are physic but that is not

actually the practice of Oriental Medicine.

 

An Oriental Medicine diagnosis generally involves asking questions, palpating

points, and most generally reading pulses. There are aspects which take in

sight and sound and color and smell of the person but I have not heard of

looking at the person and giving herbs. Does your partner benefit from the

herbs? Is she healthier?

 

I would ask questions before making an appointment as to background and

process being used. It's not supposed to be magic it is a medical science

that has an art to it's practice.

 

Hope this helps. I also wonder where in the country you are?

 

Bobbi Aqua, Lic. Ac./Herbalist

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mai ching gommmha einggh.

 

bobbiaqua wrote:What you describe is not the practice of Chinese

Medicine. Perhaps he is a

physic practitioner but there is nothing in your description which would

qualify this person to say what he/she is doing is . Perhaps

the herbal formula's used are from . There are people who can

read energy fields, faces, eyes, etc., and are physic but that is not

actually the practice of Oriental Medicine.

 

An Oriental Medicine diagnosis generally involves asking questions, palpating

points, and most generally reading pulses. There are aspects which take in

sight and sound and color and smell of the person but I have not heard of

looking at the person and giving herbs. Does your partner benefit from the

herbs? Is she healthier?

 

I would ask questions before making an appointment as to background and

process being used. It's not supposed to be magic it is a medical science

that has an art to it's practice.

 

Hope this helps. I also wonder where in the country you are?

 

Bobbi Aqua, Lic. Ac./Herbalist

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your email! I'm in Minnesota.

 

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bobbiaqua

Saturday, May 10, 2003 2:57 PM

acupuncture

Re: acupuncture skeptical of Chinese medicine - need more info.

 

What you describe is not the practice of . Perhaps he is a

physic practitioner but there is nothing in your description which would

qualify this person to say what he/she is doing is . Perhaps

the herbal formula's used are from . There are people who can

read energy fields, faces, eyes, etc., and are physic but that is not

actually the practice of Oriental Medicine.

 

An Oriental Medicine diagnosis generally involves asking questions, palpating

points, and most generally reading pulses. There are aspects which take in

sight and sound and color and smell of the person but I have not heard of

looking at the person and giving herbs. Does your partner benefit from the

herbs? Is she healthier?

 

I would ask questions before making an appointment as to background and

process being used. It's not supposed to be magic it is a medical science

that has an art to it's practice.

 

Hope this helps. I also wonder where in the country you are?

 

Bobbi Aqua, Lic. Ac./Herbalist

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Are you near or in Minneapolis?? They have a school there with a clinic and

you would get good attention and service. School's have experienced

practitioners at the level of teachers that work with and oversee the

students and generally it's a good and reasonably inexpensive way to begin.

They do acupuncture and herbal medicine. If not near there perhaps someone at

the school can give you a referral. Let us know how it works out.

This form of healing can really help you reduce the swelling and pain and

eventually rebuild your health.

 

Good Luck!!

 

Bobbi

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I practice Shiatsu, and we also use alot of TCM theory. Including

the fact that we need to touch the client in some way before making

any assesment of the clients health. Usually this includes either,

pulse or tongue diagnosis and almost always a Hara (stomach area)

diagnosis. Treatment by shiatsu generally includes working specific

paths on the body (meridians) and by using acupressure (among other

things) and to many people looks similar to massage therapy. Ie, in

shiatsu you need to touch the person to treat them. What you

described is not shiatsu either.

 

Good luck,

Eric

 

acupuncture , " BRENT ECKLUND "

<totalpropertysvc@m...> wrote:

> Thank you for your email! I'm in Minnesota.

>

> -

> bobbiaqua@a...

> Saturday, May 10, 2003 2:57 PM

> acupuncture

> Re: acupuncture skeptical of Chinese medicine - need

more info.

>

> What you describe is not the practice of . Perhaps

he is a

> physic practitioner but there is nothing in your description which

would

> qualify this person to say what he/she is doing is Chinese

Medicine. Perhaps

> the herbal formula's used are from . There are

people who can

> read energy fields, faces, eyes, etc., and are physic but that is

not

> actually the practice of Oriental Medicine.

>

> An Oriental Medicine diagnosis generally involves asking

questions, palpating

> points, and most generally reading pulses. There are aspects which

take in

> sight and sound and color and smell of the person but I have not

heard of

> looking at the person and giving herbs. Does your partner benefit

from the

> herbs? Is she healthier?

>

> I would ask questions before making an appointment as to

background and

> process being used. It's not supposed to be magic it is a medical

science

> that has an art to it's practice.

>

> Hope this helps. I also wonder where in the country you are?

>

> Bobbi Aqua, Lic. Ac./Herbalist

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is true that it is hard to believe in a person that does not examine you and

take pulses. It is also true that some healers do have the ability to diagnose

on a moments notice and prescribe. I would not go too hard on the healer you

mention. Perhaps he is a master or a bit overconfident. When you compare 140$

worth of herbs to a doctor that believes he must 'operate' before he even sees

you, you will see what I mean.

 

Hoang Ho <twomtns2002 wrote:Mai ching gommmha einggh.

 

bobbiaqua wrote:What you describe is not the practice of Chinese

Medicine. Perhaps he is a

physic practitioner but there is nothing in your description which would

qualify this person to say what he/she is doing is . Perhaps

the herbal formula's used are from . There are people who can

read energy fields, faces, eyes, etc., and are physic but that is not

actually the practice of Oriental Medicine.

 

An Oriental Medicine diagnosis generally involves asking questions, palpating

points, and most generally reading pulses. There are aspects which take in

sight and sound and color and smell of the person but I have not heard of

looking at the person and giving herbs. Does your partner benefit from the

herbs? Is she healthier?

 

I would ask questions before making an appointment as to background and

process being used. It's not supposed to be magic it is a medical science

that has an art to it's practice.

 

Hope this helps. I also wonder where in the country you are?

 

Bobbi Aqua, Lic. Ac./Herbalist

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Hoang Ho

 

I would add that this practitioner should know better and therefore BE better

than the MD. The MD has been trained that way. They don't know any better

than to prescribe what the pharmaceutical companies have pre-conditioned them

to as the 'standard of care' plus they can lose their license doing anything

but that standard. The alternative practitioner should be held to a higher

standard. Reminds me of a few years ago when I was at a Yoga seminar and a

yoga student advised me that he had candida and went to a particular

acupuncturist who signed-him-up for twelve needle treatments. I wanted to

expose that practitioner for being a fraud and rip-off artist. That is taking

advantage of the patient. I think we all know that when it comes to

particular systemic problems ....if the needles have any value - it is

miniscule.

 

Wholistic health care practitioners should be above this kind of behavior.

 

I agree with Bobbi - this not only doesn't sound like Chinese medicine....it

is not. These are the kind of experiences and stories that give excellent

practitioners a bad rap not to mention the medicine.

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/13/2003 7:23:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

twomtns2002 writes:

 

> It is true that it is hard to believe in a person that does not examine you

> and take pulses. It is also true that some healers do have the ability to

> diagnose on a moments notice and prescribe. I would not go too hard on the

> healer you mention. Perhaps he is a master or a bit overconfident. When you

> compare 140$ worth of herbs to a doctor that believes he must 'operate'

> before he even sees you, you will see what I mean.

>

> Hoang Ho <twomtns2002 wrote:Mai ching gommmha einggh.

>

> bobbiaqua wrote:What you describe is not the practice of Chinese

> Medicine.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

 

 

I'm sorry to hear of your experience. I think so called " Chinese

Medicine Healers " of this nature really give bona fide L. Ac's a bad

name and stain the reputations of TCM.

 

It's really strange that this person is not using needles, since

Acpuncture is a huge part of TCM. You might want to inquire where

this person went to school, and then contact them for info about this

person. Schools vary on the amount of hours required. Some require a

meager 1800hrs (very dangerous), to 3300 (very educated) of course

work and clinical experience.

 

You can ask a lot of questions too, about diagnosis, pain, etc. If

this person doesn't seem to know what they are talking about (which

it sounds like they don't), then I'd walk out the door immediately.

In short, go with your instincts.

 

Grateful for each breath,

 

Joshua Thompson

Columbia, South Carolina

[Guest guest]

Whether in acupuncture, Chinese medicine, NLP or any other wonderful

learning the axiom still holds true:

" You cannot teach those who do not wish to learn. "

rusty

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<acudoc11

<acupuncture >

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:47 PM

Re: acupuncture skeptical of Chinese medicine - need more info.

 

 

> Dear Hoang Ho

>

> I would add that this practitioner should know better and therefore BE

better

> than the MD. The MD has been trained that way. They don't know any better

> than to prescribe what the pharmaceutical companies have pre-conditioned

them

> to as the 'standard of care' plus they can lose their license doing

anything

> but that standard. The alternative practitioner should be held to a higher

> standard. Reminds me of a few years ago when I was at a Yoga seminar and a

> yoga student advised me that he had candida and went to a particular

> acupuncturist who signed-him-up for twelve needle treatments. I wanted to

> expose that practitioner for being a fraud and rip-off artist. That is

taking

> advantage of the patient. I think we all know that when it comes to

> particular systemic problems ....if the needles have any value - it is

> miniscule.

>

> Wholistic health care practitioners should be above this kind of behavior.

>

> I agree with Bobbi - this not only doesn't sound like Chinese

medicine....it

> is not. These are the kind of experiences and stories that give excellent

> practitioners a bad rap not to mention the medicine.

> Richard

>

In a message dated 5/13/2003 7:23:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> twomtns2002 writes:

>

> > It is true that it is hard to believe in a person that does not examine

you

> > and take pulses. It is also true that some healers do have the ability

to

> > diagnose on a moments notice and prescribe. I would not go too hard on

the

> > healer you mention. Perhaps he is a master or a bit overconfident. When

you

> > compare 140$ worth of herbs to a doctor that believes he must 'operate'

> > before he even sees you, you will see what I mean.

> >

> > Hoang Ho <twomtns2002 wrote:Mai ching gommmha einggh.

> >

> > bobbiaqua wrote:What you describe is not the practice of Chinese

> > Medicine.