Imagination and self-suggestion? Or Spontaneous RV?

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

 

If it were me I'd try doing an energy test. Check along the lines

of " Was it an hallucination? " " Was it a true Remote View. " See

what you get as a result.

 

Lori

 

 

, " James R.

Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

> Hey! I had this impression to go into the place where I bought my

crystal pendulum, and so I went in there, and the guy who runs the

place is out of town. An older guy was watching the store.

>

> I noticed he had a book on energy, and I asked him about it and we

got to talking.

>

> Turns out that this guy says he knows people who have a copper

room. (Unfortunately, according to him, the one at Menninger has

been dismantled.)

>

> Anyways, we get to talking, and I mentioned Ingo Swann and the

copper room and how Ingo made his own copper wall, got his chakras

stuck wide open and couldn't walk down the sidewalk because he saw

all the energies.

>

> And when I said that, I saw a sidewalk and street, and it was as if

I were on the sidewalk, stepping on to the street, and I saw all of

these " lines " of " energy " that were clouding the view.

>

> It was as if I were seeing the energies from the asphalt street.

>

> And it was in the location where I gestured when I was talking

about Ingo's experience.

>

> So did I " accidentally " remote view SOME of what Ingo saw? Or did

I just make it up?

>

> The impression probably only lasted a second or two, but it seemed

longer. And I was still able to see other things around me, but what

I was aware of was only that and the fact that I was talking to the

guy there.

>

> When I shifted my attention and said Ingo had to get help getting

his chakras under control, the image went away.

>

> Did I just hypnotize myself into imagining something based on what

I " think " it should look like? Or did I RV SOME of what Ingo saw

when he had trouble walking down the street?

>

> How do I know which one it was in a way that makes sense and is

valid for me?

>

> Thanks,

> Jim

>

>

>

> www.mindcontrolcentral.com AMAZING " GPS Of The Mind " Secrets That

Give YOU Remote-Control Access To What Others Think And Do!

> " The techniques that Jim showed me how to do helped me quit my job

and become my own boss! " --Ron T., Shawnee, OK

[Guest guest]

I would state it as a positive. Event XXX was an accurate RV session.

Event XXX was constructed by my conscious imagination...

 

etc.

 

Greg R.

 

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of darthon4

> Saturday, July 30, 2005 2:01 PM

>

> Re: Imagination

> and self-suggestion? Or Spontaneous RV?

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> If it were me I'd try doing an energy test. Check along the

> lines of " Was it an hallucination? " " Was it a true Remote

> View. " See what you get as a result.

>

> Lori

>

>

> , " James R.

> Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

> > Hey! I had this impression to go into the place where I bought my

> crystal pendulum, and so I went in there, and the guy who

> runs the place is out of town. An older guy was watching the store.

> >

> > I noticed he had a book on energy, and I asked him about it and we

> got to talking.

> >

> > Turns out that this guy says he knows people who have a copper

> room. (Unfortunately, according to him, the one at Menninger

> has been dismantled.)

> >

> > Anyways, we get to talking, and I mentioned Ingo Swann and the

> copper room and how Ingo made his own copper wall, got his

> chakras stuck wide open and couldn't walk down the sidewalk

> because he saw all the energies.

> >

> > And when I said that, I saw a sidewalk and street, and it was as if

> I were on the sidewalk, stepping on to the street, and I saw

> all of these " lines " of " energy " that were clouding the view.

> >

> > It was as if I were seeing the energies from the asphalt street.

> >

> > And it was in the location where I gestured when I was talking

> about Ingo's experience.

> >

> > So did I " accidentally " remote view SOME of what Ingo saw? Or did

> I just make it up?

> >

> > The impression probably only lasted a second or two, but it seemed

> longer. And I was still able to see other things around me,

> but what I was aware of was only that and the fact that I was

> talking to the guy there.

> >

> > When I shifted my attention and said Ingo had to get help getting

> his chakras under control, the image went away.

> >

> > Did I just hypnotize myself into imagining something based on what

> I " think " it should look like? Or did I RV SOME of what Ingo

> saw when he had trouble walking down the street?

> >

> > How do I know which one it was in a way that makes sense and is

> valid for me?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jim

> >

> >

> >

> > www.mindcontrolcentral.com AMAZING " GPS Of The Mind " Secrets That

> Give YOU Remote-Control Access To What Others Think And Do!

> > " The techniques that Jim showed me how to do helped me quit my job

> and become my own boss! " --Ron T., Shawnee, OK

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is the difference between conscious imagination and subconscious

imagination? Are either of them involved in Remote Viewing?

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

Greg Radke <gdradke

Jul 30, 2005 3:43 PM

 

RE: Re: Imagination and

self-suggestion? Or Spontaneous RV?

 

I would state it as a positive. Event XXX was an accurate RV session.

Event XXX was constructed by my conscious imagination...

 

etc.

 

Greg R.

 

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of darthon4

> Saturday, July 30, 2005 2:01 PM

>

> Re: Imagination

> and self-suggestion? Or Spontaneous RV?

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> If it were me I'd try doing an energy test. Check along the

> lines of " Was it an hallucination? " " Was it a true Remote

> View. " See what you get as a result.

>

> Lori

>

>

> , " James R.

> Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

> > Hey! I had this impression to go into the place where I bought my

> crystal pendulum, and so I went in there, and the guy who

> runs the place is out of town. An older guy was watching the store.

> >

> > I noticed he had a book on energy, and I asked him about it and we

> got to talking.

> >

> > Turns out that this guy says he knows people who have a copper

> room. (Unfortunately, according to him, the one at Menninger

> has been dismantled.)

> >

> > Anyways, we get to talking, and I mentioned Ingo Swann and the

> copper room and how Ingo made his own copper wall, got his

> chakras stuck wide open and couldn't walk down the sidewalk

> because he saw all the energies.

> >

> > And when I said that, I saw a sidewalk and street, and it was as if

> I were on the sidewalk, stepping on to the street, and I saw

> all of these " lines " of " energy " that were clouding the view.

> >

> > It was as if I were seeing the energies from the asphalt street.

> >

> > And it was in the location where I gestured when I was talking

> about Ingo's experience.

> >

> > So did I " accidentally " remote view SOME of what Ingo saw? Or did

> I just make it up?

> >

> > The impression probably only lasted a second or two, but it seemed

> longer. And I was still able to see other things around me,

> but what I was aware of was only that and the fact that I was

> talking to the guy there.

> >

> > When I shifted my attention and said Ingo had to get help getting

> his chakras under control, the image went away.

> >

> > Did I just hypnotize myself into imagining something based on what

> I " think " it should look like? Or did I RV SOME of what Ingo

> saw when he had trouble walking down the street?

> >

> > How do I know which one it was in a way that makes sense and is

> valid for me?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jim

> >

> >

> >

> > www.mindcontrolcentral.com AMAZING " GPS Of The Mind " Secrets That

> Give YOU Remote-Control Access To What Others Think And Do!

> > " The techniques that Jim showed me how to do helped me quit my job

> and become my own boss! " --Ron T., Shawnee, OK

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh..and energy testing also works for dream interpretation. I'm still

in the interpreting phase of this one dream so I don't want to give

too much away about the details....time will verify it....

 

....The last few days I've had a dream about a powerful animal that's

very close to me. It's an animal that I've never dreamed of before

or one that I would ever in a million years choose as a pet, so I

thought there might be some significance to it showing up now.

 

I went to level and asked to be shown clearly what the dream meant. I

got flash images of the same animal but now there was a second one of

the same animal present but of the opposite gender in the image

flashes that I saw.

 

The context of the images that I saw at my theta level was very

different from what was in the dream. So I took that difference in

context as my possible indication and then asked what that meant. I

received some very strong kinesthetic and clear visual feedback.

 

Later when I came out of level I was still a little bit uncertain

about what it meant but this time had a strong hunch and several

questions. One of my questions, coincidently, was whether or not it

was for real or a creation of my imagination. Whether it was past or

future, who the animals represented, etc., etc..

 

I used energy testing on my questions to verify my hunch about the

meaning.

 

Some fun stuff to try out and is based on some suggestions from Doc...

 

Lori

 

 

 

, " Greg Radke "

<gdradke@e...> wrote:

> I would state it as a positive. Event XXX was an accurate RV

session.

> Event XXX was constructed by my conscious imagination...

>

> etc.

>

> Greg R.

>

> >

> >

> > On

> > Behalf Of darthon4

> > Saturday, July 30, 2005 2:01 PM

> >

> > Re: Imagination

> > and self-suggestion? Or Spontaneous RV?

> >

> > Hi Jim,

> >

> > If it were me I'd try doing an energy test. Check along the

> > lines of " Was it an hallucination? " " Was it a true Remote

> > View. " See what you get as a result.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> >

> > , " James R.

> > Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

> > > Hey! I had this impression to go into the place where I bought

my

> > crystal pendulum, and so I went in there, and the guy who

> > runs the place is out of town. An older guy was watching the

store.

> > >

> > > I noticed he had a book on energy, and I asked him about it and

we

> > got to talking.

> > >

> > > Turns out that this guy says he knows people who have a copper

> > room. (Unfortunately, according to him, the one at Menninger

> > has been dismantled.)

> > >

> > > Anyways, we get to talking, and I mentioned Ingo Swann and the

> > copper room and how Ingo made his own copper wall, got his

> > chakras stuck wide open and couldn't walk down the sidewalk

> > because he saw all the energies.

> > >

> > > And when I said that, I saw a sidewalk and street, and it was

as if

> > I were on the sidewalk, stepping on to the street, and I saw

> > all of these " lines " of " energy " that were clouding the view.

> > >

> > > It was as if I were seeing the energies from the asphalt street.

> > >

> > > And it was in the location where I gestured when I was talking

> > about Ingo's experience.

> > >

> > > So did I " accidentally " remote view SOME of what Ingo saw? Or

did

> > I just make it up?

> > >

> > > The impression probably only lasted a second or two, but it

seemed

> > longer. And I was still able to see other things around me,

> > but what I was aware of was only that and the fact that I was

> > talking to the guy there.

> > >

> > > When I shifted my attention and said Ingo had to get help

getting

> > his chakras under control, the image went away.

> > >

> > > Did I just hypnotize myself into imagining something based on

what

> > I " think " it should look like? Or did I RV SOME of what Ingo

> > saw when he had trouble walking down the street?

> > >

> > > How do I know which one it was in a way that makes sense and is

> > valid for me?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jim

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > www.mindcontrolcentral.com AMAZING " GPS Of The Mind " Secrets

That

> > Give YOU Remote-Control Access To What Others Think And Do!

> > > " The techniques that Jim showed me how to do helped me quit my

job

> > and become my own boss! " --Ron T., Shawnee, OK

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, " James R.

Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

>

> What is the difference between conscious imagination and

subconscious imagination? Are either of them involved in Remote

Viewing?

>

> Jim

 

Hi Jimmy,

 

You are starting a new thread aren't you!!!

 

Let's see if anyone out there wants to bite on that question...

 

....a very important question, but can't be answered properly " if "

they've not yet had the proper training to alpha, then to theta, and

the " bridges of consciousness " built first.

 

Otherwise they'll hallucinate and " assume " they know just because

they have a " tiny thought " .

 

Oh well.

 

1911 Johan Schultz.

 

1932 Sid Jacobsen.

 

1935 (?) Hans Berger.

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel

wrote:

> Anyways, we get to talking, and I mentioned Ingo

> Swann and the copper room and how Ingo made his own

> copper wall, got his chakras stuck wide open and

> couldn't walk down the sidewalk because he saw all

> the energies.

>

> And when I said that, I saw a sidewalk and street,

> and it was as if I were on the sidewalk, stepping on

> to the street, and I saw all of these " lines " of

> " energy " that were clouding the view.

 

During the Kahuna Healing Energies Training I " stepped

into " Gator when he was revivifying the memory of

sitting before Doc's copper wall.

 

It was a little too much.

 

--Vince

 

http://huna-ohana.com