Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 , " mellinvg " <vmelling wrote: > > , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001@> wrote: > Hi Doc and thanks for your response > > In 2008 did a 2 book series on what Bartlett is actually doing and > > NOT doing. > > That analisis and study is posted on my Elite Mind Member's site. > > Suffice it to say here, on this public site, that the above good > > stuff that Vince is having is actually Quantum Touch done without > > the breath control... > Is it really? Well, Bartlett 'says' it's not the same, but... > One of the questions I asked myself was am I using ME or something > else? I do think Bartlett is doing something, though I'm not sure what it is that he 'says' is different than others are doing successfully. So like I said before, I did go and train with him and took all of his trainings, even the Trainer's Training. What you do is look at the RESULTS because the RESULTS give whether it works, or not. > Because – at least according to the book – you can use ME with >surrogates (there is a photo of somebody using a soft toy) and you >can purely imagine where you are two pointing – Well, when doing any remote healing you can do it with a relaxed mind from alpha and theta, or you can do it from beta. Beta is very INEFFECTIVE for distant healing. Theta can be very EFFECTIVE for distant healing when several tactics of the mind and of energy are used in a specific manner. And energy does accumulate. So if you are using a surrogate (ie, something like a FAT DOLL) for a type of healing focus, the FAT DOLL energy will also be transmitted to their unconscious mind via the field. So you will unconsciously be filling their field with FAT DOLL...which is a certain type of unconscious psychic attack. (Jimmy will LOVE the above) So a choice of a surrogate does matter. So I'd choose one type of surrogate for one thing, and let the mana accumulate without being deluted by other emotional fields. One surrogate for one emotional field A. Another surrogate for emotional field B. Blab, blab, blab... And keep them separate. So we are now touching on radionics, are we not? So we are now touching on existing morphogentic fields, and the conscious use of those fields, are we not? > I did work with Quantum Touch from both books for a couple of >months and though I could feel the energies in my hands, I did not >get this sort of physical result. TAKE THE CLASS FROM A COMPETANT TRAINER! I can not stress that enough. A book (digital) is the furthest REMOVED from actual EXPERIENCE. You want the EXPERIENCE to know what is and what is not. The Bartlett book does NOT give experience. And the Quantum Touch book does NOT give experiences. Once you have the experiencs from a competant trainer, than when you re-read the books, the PSYCHOLOGICAL ANCHORS FOR THE EXPERIENCES will be automatically triggered and felt. The emotions and the how-to's. > One of the questions that all this suggested to me is … > how important is the what and the how of what you imagine/visualize >when you use one of these techniques? It is VERY IMPORTANT! Experience in the KNOW-HOW and then PRACTICE with FEEDBACK are necessary components to any healing technology. It's funny but when I took Quantum Touch I did notice Donna Eden's book in the Trainer's bookcase. I said a few very good things about Donna. The Trainer's comment; " she's way too complicated for me " , and with that 'all-inclusive' statement SHE DISMISSED all that Donna knows, does and teaches. Wow! My point is, " we all have psychological barriors " and until we can break through them, we are in a 'stuck' position. Thank you Vince. John La Tourrette, PhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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