Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 " so it's all over for me " . > What's this post about group? > > Dr John La Tourrette - Transactional Analysis defines this a WDY/YB The existenital position is, " You're OK; I'm Not. " Jung would call it a classic " Victim " script. In the victim script the existential position is, " I'm Not responsible; Circumstance controls me. " In the " Why don't you ...?/ " Yes but... " , script, the payoff is, " I can't do anything about it so I don't have to do anything al all; I'm a loser, that's all. " http://www.ericberne.com/Games_People_Play.htm I'm OK;You're OK, rusty - " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:02 AM When you 'give up' nothing good is possible... > Yesterday a man about 62 yrs old walked into my office and wanted a > 'quickee' self-defense course for his daughter. > > His daughter is coming home from college for the Christmas season. > > I told the man that " we are not accepting any new students until AFTER Jan > 1 because of...(fill in the blanks)... " > > Jack walks into the room and I tell the man about Jack. About his high > level skills... > > How at the last 4 day event Jack had done some strong man drills (as a > metaphor for Master Keys) that seemed miraculous and impossible to those > that are not aware of the 'mental side' of the martial arts. > > The man replied with " I can't even do a pushup " . > > My reply was, " Sure you can. Just do them from a counter-top, and build > from there " . > > His reply, " What's the use? I just found out I'm diabetic so it's all over > for me " . > > I tell him, " Well there are things that you can do with energy drills, > diet, exercise and energy psychology that have helped a lot of people and > might even help you " . > > He replied, as he looked down to his right, " Nope. No use for me. " > > He then left. > > The gentleman just saw a 'guy' who he perceived had no clue to his real > illness. I might have reframed that, but I chose not to. > > What's this post about group? > > Dr John La Tourrette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 My guess is this man probably looks at his age and then combines it with the diabetes diagnosis to convince himself that his life is " all downhill from here " . He has let his biological imperative to grow die and refuses to work against any resistance to the idea that his live " is over " for all intents and purposes. , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > Yesterday a man about 62 yrs old walked into my office and wanted a 'quickee' self-defense course for his daughter. > > His daughter is coming home from college for the Christmas season. > > I told the man that " we are not accepting any new students until AFTER Jan 1 because of...(fill in the blanks)... " > > Jack walks into the room and I tell the man about Jack. About his high level skills... > > How at the last 4 day event Jack had done some strong man drills (as a metaphor for Master Keys) that seemed miraculous and impossible to those that are not aware of the 'mental side' of the martial arts. > > The man replied with " I can't even do a pushup " . > > My reply was, " Sure you can. Just do them from a counter-top, and build from there " . > > His reply, " What's the use? I just found out I'm diabetic so it's all over for me " . > > I tell him, " Well there are things that you can do with energy drills, diet, exercise and energy psychology that have helped a lot of people and might even help you " . > > He replied, as he looked down to his right, " Nope. No use for me. " > > He then left. > > The gentleman just saw a 'guy' who he perceived had no clue to his real illness. I might have reframed that, but I chose not to. > > What's this post about group? > > Dr John La Tourrette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 This post reminds me why my mom is awesome. She got diagnosed with type II diabetes a few months ago and the day she got her diagnosis she cried, and then drove directly to the naturopath and changed her diet and started taking good herbs and supplements. She is now free of her symptoms. Last year she decided that it was time to get over her fear of swimming and learned how to swim. She is in her mid 50s. I'm incredibly glad and proud my mom did not take on the defeated poor me attitude of the man who doesn't believe in himself and his ability to heal. Andrea , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > Yesterday a man about 62 yrs old walked into my office and wanted a 'quickee' self-defense course for his daughter. > > His daughter is coming home from college for the Christmas season. > > I told the man that " we are not accepting any new students until AFTER Jan 1 because of...(fill in the blanks)... " > > Jack walks into the room and I tell the man about Jack. About his high level skills... > > How at the last 4 day event Jack had done some strong man drills (as a metaphor for Master Keys) that seemed miraculous and impossible to those that are not aware of the 'mental side' of the martial arts. > > The man replied with " I can't even do a pushup " . > > My reply was, " Sure you can. Just do them from a counter-top, and build from there " . > > His reply, " What's the use? I just found out I'm diabetic so it's all over for me " . > > I tell him, " Well there are things that you can do with energy drills, diet, exercise and energy psychology that have helped a lot of people and might even help you " . > > He replied, as he looked down to his right, " Nope. No use for me. " > > He then left. > > The gentleman just saw a 'guy' who he perceived had no clue to his real illness. I might have reframed that, but I chose not to. > > What's this post about group? > > Dr John La Tourrette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 , " mamiroyale " <mamiroyale wrote: > > This post reminds me why my mom is awesome. She got diagnosed with type II diabetes a few months ago and the day she got her diagnosis she cried, and then drove directly to the naturopath and changed her diet and started taking good herbs and supplements. She is now free of her symptoms. This has been studied pretty thoroughly. And it's well known the type of person who will get it done and the person who won't get it done. There are two elements of tremendous success. Most just 'give up'. A very small percentage will actually take positive action. Those that do take action ALWAYS have a burning desire for what they do want...versus a 'wish'. Thank you for the story. John La Tourrette, PhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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