Matrix energetics - my experience so far

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, " mellinvg "

<vmelling wrote:

 

> > healingenergies-

> essentialskills , " docspeed2001 "

> > <docspeed2001@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I have been using QT & EFT for a few years. I recently read

> Matrix

> > > Energetics and found it quite intersting. Lots of amazing

> potential

> > > there but, like most things, I have some basic questions.

> > >

> >

> >

> > Around 1800 that night I was laying there thinking, " I can use

this

> new

> > tools to get over this cold feelings and be ready for tomorrows

> workout. "

> > So I spent some time following what the book said.

> >

> > Within about 30 minutes I had moved from a 50/50 state of feeling

> okay to

> > being full blown flu!

 

 

 

> Sorry to hear that you had this result from ME

 

> I also recently bought the book and have been practicing the two-

> point drill...

 

> I had some shoulder pain from carrying my laptop. I used two

>pointing to significantly reduce it – 8 to 3 on the SUDS scale soon >after.

>It seems to have healed further since

 

> I was able to correct a shortness of breath that precedes an asthma

> attack and prevent it

 

> I had a long drive about a week ago and felt a headache coming on.

> In the past, by the end of the drive, my head would have been

> pounding and I would have felt really sick I used the ME drill (imagining the

two points – I wasn't going to take my hands off the wheel). At the end of the

drive, I could still feel that initial tension, but nothing worse; and that went

within a few minutes of arrival

 

> My back was stiff all yesterday. I did the drill shortly before

going to sleep and in the morning it was much better

 

> So far, my experience is two cheers for Matrix Energetics. I have a

> growing track record of improving my health – although nothing as

> dramatic as the seminars. I'm going to continue practicing the

drills and I'm sure that the skills and results will come

 

> Vince Melling

 

Hi Vince,

 

In 2008 did a 2 book series on what Bartlett is actually doing and

NOT doing.

 

That analisis and study is posted on my Elite Mind Member's site.

 

Suffice it to say here, on this public site, that the above good

stuff that Vince is having is actually Quantum Touch done without the

breath control...

 

....but is taught by Bartlett as his Matrix stuff.

 

If what Bartlett does, works for you, do it.

 

You can find other posts here about Bartlett with the use of the search engine.

 

And I have been to all 4 of Bartlett's classes (as far as subject

matter goes).

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

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I know someone who went to and loved the ME seminar.

 

They showed me the " two point " thing, which, I'm sorry, but my idea of " two

point " is what you do in an asian massage parlor where they don't speak english

and you point to them and then you point to your.... Oh, wait... I've never

been to asia. Never mind.

 

Anyway, I'd read the book and already knew what I thought of it...

 

So the person who was showing me what they learned in the seminar, and what I

did was just fill in the blanks.

 

I was in rapport with the person (hot chick I liked and was attracted to), and

so my radiant energies were also hooked up and I had strong intention.

 

And I used my chakra I use to Remote View, and then did a ... what do you want

to call it? A " stick plate " (?!?!) in the air in that person's energy field.

 

In other words, I hooked in to the chakra I use for Remote Viewing, and then

found the part of their energy field I was attracted to for that segment

intending, put my hand in that general location, and then moved my hand /

scanned with my hand in that area until I felt a " stick " .

 

(This is really just an adaptation of what I learned from Doc about " stick

plates " but ALSO what I learned the very first time I was at his seminar and he

taught us to use our hand and the energies of the hand to " dowse " someone's

aura. I've been to a lot of Doc's seminars, and they all keep getting better

and better, so I constantly find it strange that I keep going back in my mind to

that FIRST one I went to... All I can say, I guess, right now is that when what

you learn from someone is what you had always hoped and DREAMED was possible,

but then it goes WAY BEYOND THAT, it tends to be a significant life changing

event. After the first one, it's like you start to see with a new pair of

eyes...)

 

Anyway, the person confirmed what I " two pointed, " but in my mind I was NOT

using a " two point " method, but was using a whole bunch of things Doc taught me,

and then when they described to me the " two point " I filled in the " well, if I

could do this, how the hell would I??? "

 

Now that I think about it... Next time I'm doing energy drills with a hot chick,

I'm going to do MY version of the two point and see how that works out lol....

I like my version a hole lot better...

 

HA sorry for the crude humor. No I'm not

 

But anyways...

 

After reading Doc's post, I guess I have to now go get the stuff on Quantum

Touch even though I hadn't planned on it...

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

>docspeed2001 <docspeed2001

>Mar 3, 2009 4:46 PM

>

> Re: Matrix energetics - my

experience so far

>

> , " mellinvg "

><vmelling wrote:

>

>> > healingenergies-

>> essentialskills , " docspeed2001 "

>> > <docspeed2001@> wrote:

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > I have been using QT & EFT for a few years. I recently read

>> Matrix

>> > > Energetics and found it quite intersting. Lots of amazing

>> potential

>> > > there but, like most things, I have some basic questions.

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> > Around 1800 that night I was laying there thinking, " I can use

>this

>> new

>> > tools to get over this cold feelings and be ready for tomorrows

>> workout. "

>> > So I spent some time following what the book said.

>> >

>> > Within about 30 minutes I had moved from a 50/50 state of feeling

>> okay to

>> > being full blown flu!

>

>

>

>> Sorry to hear that you had this result from ME

>

>> I also recently bought the book and have been practicing the two-

>> point drill...

>

>> I had some shoulder pain from carrying my laptop. I used two

>>pointing to significantly reduce it – 8 to 3 on the SUDS scale soon >after.

>>It seems to have healed further since

>

>> I was able to correct a shortness of breath that precedes an asthma

>> attack and prevent it

>

>> I had a long drive about a week ago and felt a headache coming on.

>> In the past, by the end of the drive, my head would have been

>> pounding and I would have felt really sick I used the ME drill (imagining the

two points – I wasn't going to take my hands off the wheel). At the end of the

drive, I could still feel that initial tension, but nothing worse; and that went

within a few minutes of arrival

>

>> My back was stiff all yesterday. I did the drill shortly before

>going to sleep and in the morning it was much better

>

>> So far, my experience is two cheers for Matrix Energetics. I have a

>> growing track record of improving my health – although nothing as

>> dramatic as the seminars. I'm going to continue practicing the

>drills and I'm sure that the skills and results will come

>

>> Vince Melling

 

 

>Hi Vince,

 

>In 2008 did a 2 book series on what Bartlett is actually doing and

>NOT doing.

 

>That analisis and study is posted on my Elite Mind Member's site.

 

>Suffice it to say here, on this public site, that the above good

>stuff that Vince is having is actually Quantum Touch done without the breath

control...

 

>...but is taught by Bartlett as his Matrix stuff.

 

>If what Bartlett does, works for you, do it.

 

>You can find other posts here about Bartlett with the use of the search engine.

 

>And I have been to all 4 of Bartlett's classes (as far as subject

>matter goes).

 

>John La Tourrette, PhD

[Guest guest]

, " docspeed2001 "

<docspeed2001 wrote:

>

>

> Hi Vince,

>

 

Hi Doc and thanks for your response

 

> In 2008 did a 2 book series on what Bartlett is actually doing and

> NOT doing.

>

> That analisis and study is posted on my Elite Mind Member's site.

 

Not sure if I have access to the old stuff but I'll check it out

 

>

> Suffice it to say here, on this public site, that the above good

> stuff that Vince is having is actually Quantum Touch done without the

> breath control...

 

Is it really?

One of the questions I asked myself was am I using ME or something else?

Because – at least according to the book – you can use ME with surrogates (there

is a photo of somebody using a soft toy) and you can purely imagine where you

are two pointing – which is the only safe way to do it if you are driving.

 

I did work with Quantum Touch from both books for a couple of months and though

I could feel the energies in my hands, I did not get this sort of physical

result.

 

I did revisit the thread we had in the Manifestation Masters list back in

November where I had mentioned a technique I learned from a Serge King tape and

you gave a detailed response of how it was similar to other, older teachings.

 

One of the questions that all this suggested to me is …

how important is the what and the how of what you imagine/visualize when you use

one of these techniques?

I was looking for differences between the techniques I've tried I've never

forgotten your rebuke about sorting for sameness when I first started posting),

this seems to be a key one.

(And, from another recent thread, critical to the placebo effect too).

[Guest guest]

,

> Hi Vince,

>

> In 2008 did a 2 book series on what Bartlett is actually doing and

> NOT doing.

>

> That analisis and study is posted on my Elite Mind Member's site.

>

> Suffice it to say here, on this public site, that the above good

> stuff that Vince is having is actually Quantum Touch done without the

> breath control...

>

> ...but is taught by Bartlett as his Matrix stuff.

>

> If what Bartlett does, works for you, do it.

>

> You can find other posts here about Bartlett with the use of the search

engine.

>

> And I have been to all 4 of Bartlett's classes (as far as subject

> matter goes).

>

> John La Tourrette, PhD

>

 

I have used QT for a while now and I kinda got the same impression: that ME felt

very QT'ish. The results of ME are much more impressive - if one can achieve

them. Of course, a person not getting the results of Bartlett is the same as one

not getting the results of Gordon. Both have to some degree a vested interest in

it work and therefore their belief is much stronger than someone like me who is

just wanting to really learn and use it. They would both possess a much stronger

belief in the results they achieved and for every success that belief becomes

stronger and so does their skill.

 

Wade

[Guest guest]

, Jim Knippenberg

> Anyway, the person confirmed what I " two pointed, " but in my mind I was NOT

using a " two point " method, but was using a whole bunch of things Doc taught me,

and then when they described to me the " two point " I filled in the " well, if I

could do this, how the hell would I??? "

>

> Now that I think about it... Next time I'm doing energy drills with a hot

chick, I'm going to do MY version of the two point and see how that works out

lol.... I like my version a hole lot better...

>

> HA sorry for the crude humor. No I'm not

>

> But anyways...

>

> After reading Doc's post, I guess I have to now go get the stuff on Quantum

Touch even though I hadn't planned on it...

>

> Jim

 

I think in the end, however you can " work " on someone, that is the best way for

you. We assign these names to ways of doing things (EFT, QT, ME, Reiki, etc..)

and in the end - its all the same. We notice that something is off and we are

attempting to correct or change it. You can use heal or transform or 'choose a

change' but its all the same. I personally am more drawn to the more simplier

methods. When Im not working as a Performance Specialist with clients I work as

an Efficiency Expert. And it all boils down to simplification. The more simple

you can make something, the more blocks you remove and the quicker and easier it

becomes.

 

I personally looking into ME because of the speed. I " really " like what is being

said - forget the problem - look at the end result. Gotta love that

 

Wade