Urgent Help please - Su Jok/sterile needles

[Guest guest]

Concerning fibromyalgia and CFS,

I do a therapy called Electro-Lyphatic Therapy that has been amazing for my

clients, they have reported being pain free for weeks and some for good.

 

Jilly

 

 

 

Today I went to see a new therapist who practices Su Jok acupuncture. I am

concerned to read elsewhere that you can be trained in under three days to

do this form of acupuncture. Should I be, and has anyone here had positive

results from this therapy?

Secondly, he used micro-needles to stimulate points on my hands, taken

from a jar in which they were submerged in 98% alcohol. He assured me that

they were new, and gave me the needles in a vial filled with alcohol to take

home and bring back for my next treatment. I am uneasy about this approcah

to need storage on his behalf - should I be? I have had traditional

acupuncture on many occasions, and have always had needles taken from

sterile blister packs which are then discarded in a yellow bin for hazardous

medical waste.

I've moved areas, and am desperate for pain relief for fibromyalgia and

CFS,

and am due to have another appointment tomorrow, but feel uneasy.....

 

J.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you feel uneasy about someones treatments, look for another therapist..

 

I never heard about a therapist who asked the patient to look after the

needles, I think that's not the way it should be. I, as a therapist myself,

like to know for sure that the needles I use are sterile. If I give them to

the patient I don't know what happens to them.

Secondly, reused needles are less sharp then new ones.

 

wish you the best,

Jolanda

 

 

 

jamesblonde112000 [jamesblonde112000]

dinsdag 18 januari 2005 19:02

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acupuncture Urgent Help please - Su Jok/sterile needles

 

 

 

 

Today I went to see a new therapist who practices Su Jok acupuncture. I am

concerned to read elsewhere that you can be trained in under three days to

do this form of acupuncture. Should I be, and has anyone here had positive

results from this therapy?

Secondly, he used micro-needles to stimulate points on my hands, taken

from a jar in which they were submerged in 98% alcohol. He assured me that

they were new, and gave me the needles in a vial filled with alcohol to take

home and bring back for my next treatment. I am uneasy about this approcah

to need storage on his behalf - should I be? I have had traditional

acupuncture on many occasions, and have always had needles taken from

sterile blister packs which are then discarded in a yellow bin for hazardous

medical waste.

I've moved areas, and am desperate for pain relief for fibromyalgia and

CFS,

and am due to have another appointment tomorrow, but feel uneasy.....

 

J.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Doctors and accupuncture is like anything else. Find a doctor that you are

comfortable with and who you believe is doing a good job. It might take some

shopping but it will be worth it.

 

jamesblonde112000 <jamesblonde112000 wrote:

Today I went to see a new therapist who practices Su Jok acupuncture. I am

concerned to read elsewhere that you can be trained in under three days to

do this form of acupuncture. Should I be, and has anyone here had positive

results from this therapy?

Secondly, he used micro-needles to stimulate points on my hands, taken

from a jar in which they were submerged in 98% alcohol. He assured me that

they were new, and gave me the needles in a vial filled with alcohol to take

home and bring back for my next treatment. I am uneasy about this approcah

to need storage on his behalf - should I be? I have had traditional

acupuncture on many occasions, and have always had needles taken from

sterile blister packs which are then discarded in a yellow bin for hazardous

medical waste.

I've moved areas, and am desperate for pain relief for fibromyalgia and CFS,

and am due to have another appointment tomorrow, but feel uneasy.....

 

J.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

There is nothing wrong with Su Jok acupuncture per-se. I don't have any

personal experience with it, but like many Microsystems of acupuncture

Korean hand and foot acupuncture can provide dramatic results when done

properly. Find someone who has a lot of training and experience as that

can make all the difference.

 

In the United States an acupuncturist would loose their license for

using needles in such a manner as you describe. I don't know how

acupuncturists are licensed in the UK, but here in the States I would

not recommend seeing anyone who was not trained extensively with Chinese

medicine. Look for L.Ac. or D.O.M. (depending on the State) after their

names. Ask about their credentials and where they were trained. Some

chiropractors and MD's are quite good at acupuncture too, but their

training is typically far less for acupuncture than a Licensed

Acupuncturist.

 

If one of my patients felt uneasy about anything I did during a

treatment I would want them to bring it to my attention so I could

either explain why or what I was doing, or could refer them to someone

else who the may feel more comfortable with. You are in charge, it is

your health and your money. Don't feel intimidated! A healing

relationship is critical to success.

 

Fibromyalgia can successfully be treated using Chinese medicine. I

personally know several people that have essentially eliminated all of

their symptoms. Acupuncture is a potentially power means of shifting

the energy of the body, and should only be preformed by someone who

knows what they are doing.

 

Good luck!

Chris

 

 

jamesblonde112000 [jamesblonde112000]

Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:02 AM

acupuncture

acupuncture Urgent Help please - Su Jok/sterile needles

 

 

 

Today I went to see a new therapist who practices Su Jok acupuncture. I

am

concerned to read elsewhere that you can be trained in under three days

to

do this form of acupuncture. Should I be, and has anyone here had

positive

results from this therapy?

Secondly, he used micro-needles to stimulate points on my hands, taken

 

from a jar in which they were submerged in 98% alcohol. He assured me

that

they were new, and gave me the needles in a vial filled with alcohol to

take

home and bring back for my next treatment. I am uneasy about this

approcah

to need storage on his behalf - should I be? I have had traditional

acupuncture on many occasions, and have always had needles taken from

sterile blister packs which are then discarded in a yellow bin for

hazardous

medical waste.

I've moved areas, and am desperate for pain relief for fibromyalgia

and CFS,

and am due to have another appointment tomorrow, but feel uneasy.....

 

J.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your comments about my posting . I did not go back for

further treament and cancelled my further appointments i do not like using

needles twice and having to look after them myself i feel is wrong . I was

really intimidated by this therapist ,never again .

Chinese herbal medicine did not help my fibromyalgia/ cfs one bit ,yes i did

this for a year or more .

In the uk i use to get slight pain relief from acupuncture and have been

going for over ten years in the uk but have moved to spain now and am trying

to find pain relief. .

thanks again for your helpful comments.

J.

[Guest guest]

I can understand why your therapist is doing this.

In Europe there are no sujok needles available (the

ones there are, are not magnetic and cannot be used in

the injectors). So we use korean needles that come

sterile in packets of ten. Keeping them in alcohol

after you open the packet is a way of keeping them

clean. Also they are a rare commodity so he might want

to use them again. Before needles where available in

blisters we often kept patients needles apart for

reuse

we then used heat sterilisation, but that is no longer

alowed. I never had any problems in these days though

Greetings Rob Jansen.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi

 

I did not read your previous posts or anwsers as I have been traveling. I read a

case study in which fibromyalgia was successfully treated with Bach Flower

Remedies. I find this interesting because in all the cases of this disorder that

I have treated the patients had a lot of anger and rage. From a OM point of view

the most common pattern was damp heat and the use of herbs was also very

helpful. I have treated this very successfully so I am interested in the fact

with lots of treatment you have not had much luck.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Bobbi

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L.S.

 

I know of a good acupuncturist in Murcia.

He is Dutch trained and his name is Hans Kleer.

You can contact him at hanskleer

Greetings Rob Jansen

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Rob

Thanks for your time answering . I'm in the Canary islands( Gran Canaria )

not on the mainland of Spain ... thanks anyway.

if anyone knows a good acupunturist here ?

JB

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Bobbi

Thanks for your comments, I can't comment on the rage and anger only that i

don't think i have much only that i'm upset cos i'm sick & that gets me down(

but some therapist may say otherwise who really knows ) , I was told by my uk

acupuncturist it was damp heat as you say and i had build up of mucus in

muscles( balls of sticky mucus in muscle causing the chronic pain ) ..i have

used many herbs over the years both chinese( boil and drink ) and western ..

they did nothing, the bach flower remedies also did nothing i did them for well

over a year . I even went to the Reading school/ college of chinese herbal

medicine and acupunture to be treated in he uk without success when i

lived there .

At the moment i'm using undenatured whey( immunepro) which is helping

and also a Spanish mineral supplement called recuperation which they all

use in Spain for fms or cfs which also is helping & Enada which helps the

drop dead fatigue of the chronic fatigue,the dry climate also helps slightly

here in the Canary islands .

JB

 

 

 

acupuncture , bobbiaqua@a... wrote:

> Hi

>

> I did not read your previous posts or anwsers as I have been traveling. I

read a case study in which fibromyalgia was successfully treated with Bach

Flower Remedies. I find this interesting because in all the cases of this

disorder that I have treated the patients had a lot of anger and rage. From a

OM point of view the most common pattern was damp heat and the use of

herbs was also very helpful. I have treated this very successfully so I am

interested in the fact with lots of treatment you have not had much luck.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Bobbi

[Guest guest]

Hello Jilly,

 

How do you do it

 

Pawel