NO, it's NOT the Devil doing it to you,...

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In a message dated 6/3/05 5:25:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, docspeed2001 writes:

 

It is interesting.

 

On of my long term friends can work FOR OTHERS and make them tons of

money. He does NOT have to worry about "responsibility" of

succeeding or failing. He just follows their guidelines and works

his butt off for them.

 

But, 3 times he's broke off on his own, and failed all three times!

 

Now, he's finally working for someone else, being their work slave,

pulling in about $90K a year...and he now does not like their

rules...

 

....so he wants to go out and become a saleman...

 

....and wanted my help doing so.

 

I told him he needed to clear a few other issues first...

 

I've not heard from him since.

 

What in Hell is this post about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think this post is in part about some of us (me) not fooling ourselves into thinking that it's as easy to sell oneself, as it was to sell stuff for other people. Having come from a background of lack, causes one to have mental (conscious and unconscious) roadblocks that need to be seen and cleaned up. To explore what messages were installed about money, the discomfort of having/getting more than one thinks he/she is worth. All sorts of fears come up, having to do with Fear of Failure as well as Fear of Success, and what that implies.

 

 

I never saw myself as a Top Banana, but rather as a supporting player. I am great at encouraging, teaching and promoting others, but sure am scared to do it for myself. I don't think it is a fear of failure that holds me back, it's possibly feeling my own power that scares the poop out of me.

 

Something having to do with deservedness too, I think. All sorts of distorted messages get implanted by how one is treated in the crucial years of one's life...huh? I know.....excuses, excuses.....poor me. LOL

 

Paulina

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In a message dated 6/3/05 2:25:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, docspeed2001 writes:

 

 

It is interesting.

 

On of my long term friends can work FOR OTHERS and make them tons of

money. He does NOT have to worry about "responsibility" of

succeeding or failing. He just follows their guidelines and works

his butt off for them.

 

But, 3 times he's broke off on his own, and failed all three times!

 

Now, he's finally working for someone else, being their work slave,

pulling in about $90K a year...and he now does not like their

rules...

 

....so he wants to go out and become a saleman...

 

....and wanted my help doing so.

 

I told him he needed to clear a few other issues first...

 

I've not heard from him since.

 

What in Hell is this post about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This person needs to work more on THEIR own issues ( I know the feeling

and am continuing to work in issues by myself, as well as

with colleagues/exchanging services )

 

Then the same details and ideas that they are able to implement

while working for others will work for THEIR OWN COMPANY because

they will get out of their own of Success.

 

Oh, and very few people are willing to do the work and make the

changes so they get a bit sheepish and don't

want to speak with you. Some clients are like this and often it

is more awkward with friends that want advice ( I forget the name of this

thing where a 'friend' constantly wants free advice/services

from you ? )

 

Michael Twomey

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Hi Paulina,

 

jack gives out gems all the time - the question is: what do you...and me.....and the rest of us do with them?

 

I LOVE analysing stuff - other people, how to do stuff etc. in fact i can spend so long trying to work out how to do something that by the time I have figured out how to do it I have missed the deadline......so I am gaining the skills to kick that shit into touch and get on with important business of getting what i want when i want it rather than investing time in thinking about the reasons why i don't have it and/or the best way to get it......in other words I procastrinate with the best possible intentions....but it still doesn't get me what I want - even thgouh i am pretty good at enabling other to get what they want.

 

I guess i am rephrasing what you said with maybe a hint of another angle?

 

 

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Pandora51

Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:48 AM

Re: NO, it's NOT the Devil doing it to you,...

In a message dated 6/3/05 5:25:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, docspeed2001 writes:

It is interesting.On of my long term friends can work FOR OTHERS and make them tons of money. He does NOT have to worry about "responsibility" of succeeding or failing. He just follows their guidelines and works his butt off for them.But, 3 times he's broke off on his own, and failed all three times!Now, he's finally working for someone else, being their work slave, pulling in about $90K a year...and he now does not like their rules......so he wants to go out and become a saleman......and wanted my help doing so.I told him he needed to clear a few other issues first...I've not heard from him since.What in Hell is this post about?

I think this post is in part about some of us (me) not fooling ourselves into thinking that it's as easy to sell oneself, as it was to sell stuff for other people. Having come from a background of lack, causes one to have mental (conscious and unconscious) roadblocks that need to be seen and cleaned up. To explore what messages were installed about money, the discomfort of having/getting more than one thinks he/she is worth. All sorts of fears come up, having to do with Fear of Failure as well as Fear of Success, and what that implies. I never saw myself as a Top Banana, but rather as a supporting player. I am great at encouraging, teaching and promoting others, but sure am scared to do it for myself. I don't think it is a fear of failure that holds me back, it's possibly feeling my own power that scares the poop out of me. Something having to do with deservedness too, I think. All sorts of distorted messages get implanted by how one is treated in the crucial years of one's life...huh? I know.....excuses, excuses.....poor me. LOLPaulina

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essentialskills , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...>

wrote:

> Hi Paulina,

>

> jack gives out gems all the time - the question is: what do

you...and me.....and the rest of us do with them?

 

Thank you.

Most don't notice them...

 

....or, if they do, like in Rebecca's post, she ignores my post and

goes on and answers another softer post.

 

> I LOVE analysing stuff - other people, how to do stuff etc. in

>fact i can spend so long trying to work out how to do something

that >by the time I have figured out how to do it I have missed the

>deadline...

 

Yes.

 

A normal thing that many Metal elements do.

 

Glad you are having fun, Cris.