Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 They have energies which are scrambled and/or disconnected across the brain hemispheres. No method of talk change work would provide a lasting solution. They are unaware of of needed to " fix " or " change " anything, so they don't feel or think they need to be fixed. No clue as to why the path is hard, it is just the path. They are unaware that an easier or different path exists. Greg , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > All good answers and they 'could' be a portion of his 'reasons'. > > Fear, who he sees himself as, and lack of propulsion systems installed. > > But I am sure it is much simpler than that. > > What I was asking was actually along the lines of his 'energies'. > > So, staying in line with the energies, what went on? > > And, will 'talk' of any type fix him? > > Does he feel/think he needs fixed? > > Does he even have a clue why he's chosen a much harder choice than the one we gave him? > > John La Tourrette, PhD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hi Doc and All, When I look at this from an energetic perspective, I " see " the energies in his center chest have a concave quality as if they are being held inward. The energies there seem to be stuck in some way. I explored further and got combination of beliefs that are limiting his expectations of personal success. As far as solutions, I think he could build himself up and out of this issue by talking to himself in a positive manner on a regular basis. But if he's comfortable with where he's at, why would he make the effort? And I think he does have a clue why he took a harder path- a set of beliefs like " the hard way is the righteous way and the easy way is cheating. " Doc, I appreciate your lists and posts. Thank you for the opportunity to train, learn and contribute. David Palmer , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > All good answers and they 'could' be a portion of his 'reasons'. > > Fear, who he sees himself as, and lack of propulsion systems installed. > > But I am sure it is much simpler than that. > > What I was asking was actually along the lines of his 'energies'. > > So, staying in line with the energies, what went on? > > And, will 'talk' of any type fix him? > > Does he feel/think he needs fixed? > > Does he even have a clue why he's chosen a much harder choice than the one we gave him? > > John La Tourrette, PhD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Homeostasis is the bodies mechanism to keep everything the same. It works well for keeping ones temperature and alkinilinity at a healthy state. But the same process also keeps one from learning something new and even changing their lives. The idea is that our emotional comfort level upholds a field of homeostasis. We are often so comfortable with what we know and do that we really don't want to change. Even if it is better for us. But something new is unknown and the unknown is uncomfortable. Anything that disrupts our comfort is identified as an attack and should be defended against. This is our natural paradigm, keeping us healthy. How can you work with this energetically? I would ask for more information. Taking a huge step towards greatness is often a little awkward, even if it is simple. I would begin by building rapport with the client and learn what they want to accomplish. What size step is he willing to make? Does he have any habits or practice any techniques that already embody healthy or transformational behaviour? Is he willing to develop those habits or techniques? Is he willing to learn new techniques? And in what way can he begin to redefine himself and work towards transformation in his life? The idea is to direct a transformation in a gentle enough process that it does not register as an attack. It doesn't matter what technique you use, cognitive therapy, energy healing, hypnosis, EFT, TH etc... One technique is as good as another with someone that knows how to use them. (If he has castor oil beliefs use castor oil!) What does matter is that the client chooses to respond to it and trusts the practitioner enough to learn something new. Secondly does he even want to change? If he dosen't then it really dosen't matter what you do. All your efforts will be identified as an attack. Can you ever help someone that does not want any help? Maybe so, but one has to really find a strong reason for doing so. Like: it is your mother and she is dying of cancer. Then your efforts are really more to satisfy your own personal needs then then help your mother. Perhaps honerable.... but good luck on being successful. Stay Spiritual! William Leigh , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > All good answers and they 'could' be a portion of his 'reasons'. > > Fear, who he sees himself as, and lack of propulsion systems installed. > > But I am sure it is much simpler than that. > > What I was asking was actually along the lines of his 'energies'. > > So, staying in line with the energies, what went on? > > And, will 'talk' of any type fix him? > > Does he feel/think he needs fixed? > > Does he even have a clue why he's chosen a much harder choice than the one we gave him? > > John La Tourrette, PhD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 , " davidpalmer73 " <david wrote: > > Hi Doc and All, I love it when people remote view with proper intention. So I will give David feedback on his remote viewing of the person involved. > When I look at this from an energetic perspective, I " see " the >energies in his center chest have a concave quality as if they are >being held inward. He does have heart problems, and was going through heart failure a few years back. >The energies there seem to be stuck in some way. I explored further >and got combination of beliefs that are limiting his expectations of >personal success. He grew up in a wealthy family and never had to earn a dime. So he never learned how to do that. > As far as solutions, I think he could build himself up and out of >this issue by talking to himself in a positive manner on a regular >basis. But if he's comfortable with where he's at, why would he make >the effort? He and his wife do not need much. Small pleasures are fine for him. > And I think he does have a clue why he took a harder path- a set >of beliefs like " the hard way is the righteous way and the easy way >is cheating. " He is an 'intellectual' and loves talking about thinking. He also loves to study about thinking and teaching. He is looking for a way to make 40K a year which is more than enough for his wants and perceived needs. He has a PhD already, but to get that 40K he has gone back to college and is earning a MS in secondary education (in 3 areas of focus) so he is employable in the secondary education field. So he is spending 1 1/2 years on more education when he could be making much more money than that doing something much easier and faster. So his 'comfort zone' is driving his behavior, and nothing else does he let intrude upon those old habits of 'doing'. > Doc, I appreciate your lists and posts. Thank you for the opportunity to train, learn and contribute. You are welcome. John La Tourrette, PhD > > David Palmer > > > , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001@> wrote: > > > > All good answers and they 'could' be a portion of his 'reasons'. > > > > Fear, who he sees himself as, and lack of propulsion systems installed. > > > > But I am sure it is much simpler than that. > > > > What I was asking was actually along the lines of his 'energies'. > > > > So, staying in line with the energies, what went on? > > > > And, will 'talk' of any type fix him? > > > > Does he feel/think he needs fixed? > > > > Does he even have a clue why he's chosen a much harder choice than the one we gave him? > > > > John La Tourrette, PhD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 , " William Leigh " <william4x5 wrote: > The idea is that our emotional comfort level upholds a field of >homeostasis. We are often so comfortable with what we know and do >that we really don't want to change. Even if it is better for us. >But something new is unknown and the unknown is uncomfortable. >Anything that disrupts our comfort is identified as an attack and >should be defended against. This is our natural paradigm, keeping >us healthy. Hi William, Actually it is ONE of the many different subconscious 'time elements' that people live by. For example some people can work in the factory for 30 years, moving a widget from space 1 to space 3 and be tremendously happy. Others can do that job for 3 minutes and are going out of their heads with boredom. > > How can you work with this energetically? > > I would ask for more information. Taking a huge step towards greatness is often a little awkward, even if it is simple. I would begin by building rapport with the client and learn what they want to accomplish. What size step is he willing to make? Does he have any >habits or practice any techniques that already embody healthy or >transformational behavior? Is he willing to develop those habits or >techniques? Is he willing to learn new techniques? And in what way >can he begin to redefine himself and work towards transformation in >his life? > All good methods. I would call that aligning your energies with his existing energies. > The idea is to direct a transformation in a gentle enough process >that it does not register as an attack. If that is done, HE WILL NOT CHANGE. As long as he remains comfortable, and remembers ONLY the comfort, he is there forever! >It doesn't matter what technique you use, cognitive therapy, energy >healing, hypnosis, EFT, TH etc... One technique is as good as >another with someone that knows how to use them. (If he has castor >oil beliefs use Castor oil!) William, I agree with what you stated... BUT... I did ask for the energy components... ....in fact I gave the primary corollary of why energy tactics work as a guideline. > What does matter is that the client chooses to respond to it and trusts the practitioner enough to learn something new. They WILL NOT choose to respond unless an ENERGETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM is used and used massively. It might help to examine old positive anchors for success... ...and when they were successful. ....and to examine old negative anchors, that caused them distress (fear, doubt, confusion) in the past. > Secondly does he even want to change? In the situation given, he said he wanted XX and NOT YY. So it is given that he wants to change. Let me give an isomorphic example for giving some clarity. What happens to the energies of a person that loves popcorn, on a general energy test? What happens to the energies of a person that loves popcorn, on a specific Spleen Meridian (governs the immune system) test? How and why is the unconscious desires in CONFLICT with the deeper structures and energies of the immune system inside the meridian system? Have fun. John La Tourrette, PhD > , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001@> wrote: > > > > All good answers and they 'could' be a portion of his 'reasons'. > > > > Fear, who he sees himself as, and lack of propulsion systems installed. > > > > But I am sure it is much simpler than that. > > > > What I was asking was actually along the lines of his 'energies'. > > > > So, staying in line with the energies, what went on? > > > > And, will 'talk' of any type fix him? > > > > Does he feel/think he needs fixed? > > > > Does he even have a clue why he's chosen a much harder choice than the one we gave him? > > > > John La Tourrette, PhD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Doc, Wow! Thanks for the detailed feedback! You asked me what I could do to get more details when RVing energies in the future and I thank you for the question. Here are some ideas: - Observe specific areas of the energy systems (meridians, chakras...) and detect abnormalities. Instead of only observing the first thing that appears, follow a methodical approach. - Energy test them at level as if they were in a real world setting. - Ask specific questions. Ask 'what is important about this' for each abnormality. - Ask about beliefs and ideals associated with each observation, chunking up to their higher ideals. - After observing them, put on the person's head and RV how they think and feel about the specific energies that were observed. Again, I appreciate the feedback. Thank You, David Palmer , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > , " davidpalmer73 " <david@> wrote: > > > > Hi Doc and All, > > I love it when people remote view with proper intention. > > So I will give David feedback on his remote viewing of the person involved. > > > When I look at this from an energetic perspective, I " see " the >energies in his center chest have a concave quality as if they are >being held inward. > > He does have heart problems, and was going through heart failure a few years back. > > >The energies there seem to be stuck in some way. I explored further >and got combination of beliefs that are limiting his expectations of >personal success. > > He grew up in a wealthy family and never had to earn a dime. So he never learned how to do that. > > > As far as solutions, I think he could build himself up and out of >this issue by talking to himself in a positive manner on a regular >basis. But if he's comfortable with where he's at, why would he make >the effort? > > He and his wife do not need much. > > Small pleasures are fine for him. > > > And I think he does have a clue why he took a harder path- a set >of beliefs like " the hard way is the righteous way and the easy way >is cheating. " > > He is an 'intellectual' and loves talking about thinking. He also loves to study about thinking and teaching. > > He is looking for a way to make 40K a year which is more than enough for his wants and perceived needs. > > He has a PhD already, but to get that 40K he has gone back to college and is earning a MS in secondary education (in 3 areas of focus) so he is employable in the secondary education field. > > So he is spending 1 1/2 years on more education when he could be making much more money than that doing something much easier and faster. > > So his 'comfort zone' is driving his behavior, and nothing else does he let intrude upon those old habits of 'doing'. > > > Doc, I appreciate your lists and posts. Thank you for the opportunity to train, learn and contribute. > > You are welcome. > > John La Tourrette, PhD > > > > > David Palmer > > > > > > , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001@> wrote: > > > > > > All good answers and they 'could' be a portion of his 'reasons'. > > > > > > Fear, who he sees himself as, and lack of propulsion systems installed. > > > > > > But I am sure it is much simpler than that. > > > > > > What I was asking was actually along the lines of his 'energies'. > > > > > > So, staying in line with the energies, what went on? > > > > > > And, will 'talk' of any type fix him? > > > > > > Does he feel/think he needs fixed? > > > > > > Does he even have a clue why he's chosen a much harder choice than the one we gave him? > > > > > > John La Tourrette, PhD > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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