Figure 8 ?

November 5, 2005

, " stuydaze "

<stuydaze> wrote:

>

> I've come across the " figure 8 " heart-charger in a couple of

different

> places (the Silva materials, Jim' excellent materials & this list, of

> course). Lots of other sources talk about connecting heart-to-heart

or

> 3rd chakra-to-3rd chakra with a straight line, a circle, a golden

> cloud, etc. What's the advantage of the figure 8? It seems to be much

> harder to feel & vizualize, especially during a conversation.

>

> Cheers,

> Jeff

I'm surprised that no one has yet answered this.

Hummmmm?

It's actually pretty damn important.

Oh well.

>

November 5, 2005

Hi Jeff,

Energy tends to move in a figure 8. You could say that the figure 8 is one of

the

building templates of energy itself. A lot of energy wants to flow like a figure

8.

And this has been known for many ages. You can see it in Egyptian Iconography.

You

can see it from Tai Chi practitioners. I've even noticed this principle put to

work in

Freemasonry.

As an aside, I remember this one episode where Aleister Crowley is interrogating

a

Martial Spirit. He asked it what the perfect number was. The Spirit did not want

to

reply. AC forced the matter, and the Spirit admitted it was the number 8.

The octave is important in nature.

Weaving figure 8's, I think, just naturally amplifies and helps things along.

Anthony

, " docspeed2001 "

<docspeed2001> wrote:

>

> , " stuydaze "

> <stuydaze> wrote:

> >

> > I've come across the " figure 8 " heart-charger in a couple of

> different

> > places (the Silva materials, Jim' excellent materials & this list, of

> > course). Lots of other sources talk about connecting heart-to-heart

> or

> > 3rd chakra-to-3rd chakra with a straight line, a circle, a golden

> > cloud, etc. What's the advantage of the figure 8? It seems to be much

> > harder to feel & vizualize, especially during a conversation.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Jeff

>

> I'm surprised that no one has yet answered this.

>

> Hummmmm?

>

> It's actually pretty damn important.

>

> Oh well.

>

> >

>

November 5, 2005

Well, let me start with what I " know " and then go to what I " think " based on how

the drills " feel " .

The figure 8 is one of the basic building blocks of the energy system. There

are the larger figure 8's, and the smaller figure 8's (sometimes called " fairy

flows " ).

The figure 8's can create healing in the energy system and fixes ruptured or

" broken " energy flows. It can be used to fix the Basic Grid. I'll stop there

with that, because I don't know much about Grid. I know Doc did leave some

notes out on the tables at the seminar in the books for people to browse. You

got to ask yourself " What's important for me to know, " and then you go take

action on it.

It's so funny because one of his " books " was a cardboard Priority Mail flat rate

envelope cut into " covers " and then notebook sheets and copies and printed

materials bound into the cardboard with plastic comb binders.

He obviously cared very much to put it in a sturdy cover to PRESERVE the

knowledge, and he is more concerned with utility and purpose and knowledge than

with how good the cover looks.

I Learned a whole lot just from that!

How many people saw his notes in a plain cardboard " binder? " and went " Pfft!

That's not a book. That's just some stuff there... "

Secrets HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT. Meaning they were out in the open in " plain

sight " AND they were very, VERY " plain " and " unordinary " sights to look at.

Almost like something most people would consider " trash " . And inside was buried

treasures. Including HAND-WRITTEN notes.

I found TOP-NOTCH SKILLS in that book.

ANd I'm going to steal a language pattern about things that come in plain,

ordinary packaging that you might not otherwise pay attention...

I wrote down LOTS of names of books.

I took lots of notes on other stuff I knew I " couldn't " otherwise get my hands

on. (either because of " prerequisites " or because of " out of print, no longer

available " or because of some other reasons.) (OH GOD! How I wanted to use the

copy machine! But I learned more writing it in my own notes, with my own hand,

than if I had " cheated " anyways...)

And the notes gave clues to things I wanted to know. (on MANY topics) And in

other places, I got exact word-for-word answers to things important for me to

know.

And I still don't really KNOW the answers for " Grid " stuff, so I'll stop there

with that point.

Now in Donna's book, she talks about the different types of chakra connections

that are possible, for example, during sex.

I know that sometimes when I am around someone, I get a feeling in my 2nd chakra

where my 2nd chakra connects with their 2nd chakra, and I get a sense of the

basic goodness of that person. This is rare, at least to my awareness.

Other times, I'll feel a root chakra connection or sometimes a PAIN in the root

chakra when the person has lots of rage in their root chakra (different than 3rd

chakra rage).

Now notice that the third chakra has to do with will power and " writings on the

wall " and beliefs programmed in about what is right and wrong and what is " me "

and " not me " . Donna, I think, describes it as a " parent " over the 2nd chakra,

and sometimes people get cut off between the 2nd and 3rd chakras.

Well, we have the 3rd chakra as " feelings " about right and wrong, good and bad,

pre-programmed beliefs that we grew up with.

And that energy rises into the heart chakra, which is the other emotional

chakra.

Now I don't know the " REAL " answser, so if someone does, I want to know, too.

I know it FEELS different doing the figure 8's between two people and their

emotional chakras vs just doing straight lines.

When I feel their heart energies in my third chakra where I have beliefs about

" right and wrong " and " bad feelings " and " good feelings " I get a better idea of

how to connect with their heart. I feel out their heart energies, so to speak,

and then I raise those energies (her heart combined with my solar plexus

energies) into my own heart, and I feed back that energy connection into HER

solar plexus chakra.

Yes, I know you start it the other way, your energies in to her energy field. I

explained it the way I did because I'm explaining the feelings I feel from my

own perspective when I do that.

Another important thing is that when you do the heart to heart and solar plexus

to solar plexus you don't get the same kind of quality of feedback.

What I mean is this: When I do the figure 8's, I get a better feeling of how

that connection affects HER energy body AND MY energy body.

I get feedback on whether the connection is one I should pursue further, and if

so, to what extent.

I do not get that feedback when I just connect my heart to her's and my solar

plexus to her's. It doesn't " flow " properly between us. But it does with the

figure 8's, and I get a better idea of what kind of connection I do or do not

want to have.

I don't know if that helps any or not.

Now as for it being more " difficult " to do in a conversation with someone, two

things come to mind:

1) what I already said about feedback about the connection

2) practice it more. Stand at home and imagine talking with someone, and as you

talk out loud to them, as you imagine them there, weave the energies PHYSICALLY

with your hands, in a figure 8 between you and them. Then it will be much

easier to " imagine it " or to trace it with your eyes " or to use gestures.

ALSO, this is IMPORTANT!: When you get the video from the seminar, I don't

remember if it was John or someone else, but I think it was John, did a partial

trace of the heart energy, and as he traced up and then down, on the downward

motion, he moved his hands OUT as if to the other person. Practice doing that

Care Bear Heart in a way that WEAVES THAT energy between the two of you instead

of just tracing yours and tracing hers.

Damn, I recoginzed that right as soon as he did it, because it reminded me of

when Annette did something similar a couple of years ago. And I completely

forgot about it until I was typing this post. So thanks for the question! I'm

going to go practice that now.

Hope these answers help some.