Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hi Barbara Ann, I believe it was C.W. Leadbeater who said that channeling was harmful to the entity AND to the medium. Then again, Thomson Jay Hudson said that channeling was nothing more than a person getting information from their own subjective mind or telepathically from the subjective mind of another that is still alive and has access (even if not aware of it) to the information. Then again, there are others like Alan Kardec (sp?) who wrote extensively on the subject. I know that YOU already know those sources, so the references are for anyone else who might not know about them. I found out about them from Doc. I do know that for a long time I believed I got information from the other side from Milton Erickson. I brought up the topic while I was doing my presentation at Doc's seminar, and the REAL answer SHOCKED me when I found it through my own unconscious body pendulum. It's on the DVD! (LOL) The example I gave with Milton Erickson is a bit different, though, because I used the mental screen and a similar version to the " Mental Counselors " that is in Jose Silva's materials. And that is NOT the same as " channeling " . From what I understand about channeling, if in fact it actually does occur (I think it CAN and DOES, and I also think that MOST of what people call channeling is not really channeling but something else -- Read and STUDY what Hudson wrote on the topic!), is that channeling is through the solar plexus chakra, whereas the techniques for the Mental Counselors and the Mental Laboratory and the Mental Screen are from the Third Eye, accessing the Mental Plane. Now Leadbeater said that channeling weakened the aura of the medium. Compare that with what we experienced in the seminar with the visitors who were there. Notice the differences between what we experienced versus channeling. We also know that those who do not have a very good grasp on reality and do NOT have the reference points like we learn when we do the training the correct way are vulnerable to overactive imagination. Hudson also covers the problems that occur whenever someone's objective (conscious) mind abdicates its proper place and allows the subjective (subconscious) mind to have unbridled control. Those people often end up with mental problems. They seem to be whacked out, as you so well described it. This is why it is SO IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW TO USE WHOLE MIND THINKING! One of the things that I really appreciated about the seminar we just got back from was how Doc gave us all LOTS of practice taking each other to that place where we use WHOLE MIND THINKING. I've had hypnosis practice before, but this was different -- this was training to be able to do the drills on our own, along with anchors to get to the correct state of mind any time we want to for any purpose we desire. And because there were so many people there, it was awesome to be in slightly larger groups so that we had to take MULTIPLE study partners to that place of mind at the same time. I learned so much from having to calibrate multiple people! I almost feel sorry for those who are attempting to discuss or learn psychic skills who have not trained with Doc. Then again, if they could be there, how would they, so I guess it's their own fault if they don't know. Maybe they're just not ready for it yet. I do know that those on this list who did NOT attend the recent seminar would be absolutely pissed at themselves if they knew all the incredible things they missed out on! I'm still recovering from the information overload and the constant drills! I even noticed that Doc taught ME drills I need to be successful at what I'm doing, right from the get-go. I sure do appreciate Doc and everyone else there that I learned so much from! Maybe I'll post more... Heck, I got a notebook crammed with notes I learned while I was there, and I only scratched the surface with my notes, which is why I made damn sure I ordered the DVD's too! Anyways, thanks for the questions! See you at the Huna Convention? Sincerely, Jim >barbara101ann <barbara101ann >Jun 30, 2006 12:37 AM > > they keep bring up channeling > >I pretty confused. I'm on another group and they keep bringing up >channeling. One person says to fear it. Another person says to let it >come through. Who's right? Some of these people seem wacked out. What >is going on? > >Barbara Ann > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hello Barbara, Intent and intention is extremely important and are you seeking the channeling or ??? Also, if you are involved in energy work or therapy of any kind, are you protecting yourself? Peace & Light, Kathleen , " barbara101ann " <barbara101ann wrote: > > I pretty confused. I'm on another group and they keep bringing up > channeling. One person says to fear it. Another person says to let it > come through. Who's right? Some of these people seem wacked out. What > is going on? > > Barbara Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hi, everyoneGreetingsThank you for information about channeling.I was not sure ...... If prophetic dreams don't belong to channeling,what are they ?Because, I found a website, http://dream-detective.com/I hope you enjoy it. Sincerely,Masako , "James R. Knippenberg" <erommel wrote:>> > Hi Barbara Ann,> > I believe it was C.W. Leadbeater who said that channeling was harmful to the entity AND to the medium. Then again, Thomson Jay Hudson said that channeling was nothing more than a person getting information from their own subjective mind or telepathically from the subjective mind of another that is still alive and has access (even if not aware of it) to the information.> > Then again, there are others like Alan Kardec (sp?) who wrote extensively on the subject.> > I know that YOU already know those sources, so the references are for anyone else who might not know about them.> > I found out about them from Doc.> > I do know that for a long time I believed I got information from the other side from Milton Erickson. I brought up the topic while I was doing my presentation at Doc's seminar, and the REAL answer SHOCKED me when I found it through my own unconscious body pendulum.> > It's on the DVD! (LOL)> > The example I gave with Milton Erickson is a bit different, though, because I used the mental screen and a similar version to the "Mental Counselors" that is in Jose Silva's materials.> > And that is NOT the same as "channeling".> > From what I understand about channeling, if in fact it actually does occur (I think it CAN and DOES, and I also think that MOST of what people call channeling is not really channeling but something else -- Read and STUDY what Hudson wrote on the topic!), is that channeling is through the solar plexus chakra, whereas the techniques for the Mental Counselors and the Mental Laboratory and the Mental Screen are from the Third Eye, accessing the Mental Plane.> > Now Leadbeater said that channeling weakened the aura of the medium.> > Compare that with what we experienced in the seminar with the visitors who were there. Notice the differences between what we experienced versus channeling.> > We also know that those who do not have a very good grasp on reality and do NOT have the reference points like we learn when we do the training the correct way are vulnerable to overactive imagination.> > Hudson also covers the problems that occur whenever someone's objective (conscious) mind abdicates its proper place and allows the subjective (subconscious) mind to have unbridled control.> > Those people often end up with mental problems. They seem to be whacked out, as you so well described it.> > This is why it is SO IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW TO USE WHOLE MIND THINKING!> > One of the things that I really appreciated about the seminar we just got back from was how Doc gave us all LOTS of practice taking each other to that place where we use WHOLE MIND THINKING.> > I've had hypnosis practice before, but this was different -- this was training to be able to do the drills on our own, along with anchors to get to the correct state of mind any time we want to for any purpose we desire.> > And because there were so many people there, it was awesome to be in slightly larger groups so that we had to take MULTIPLE study partners to that place of mind at the same time. I learned so much from having to calibrate multiple people!> > I almost feel sorry for those who are attempting to discuss or learn psychic skills who have not trained with Doc. Then again, if they could be there, how would they, so I guess it's their own fault if they don't know. Maybe they're just not ready for it yet.> > I do know that those on this list who did NOT attend the recent seminar would be absolutely pissed at themselves if they knew all the incredible things they missed out on!> > I'm still recovering from the information overload and the constant drills!> > I even noticed that Doc taught ME drills I need to be successful at what I'm doing, right from the get-go.> > I sure do appreciate Doc and everyone else there that I learned so much from!> > Maybe I'll post more... Heck, I got a notebook crammed with notes I learned while I was there, and I only scratched the surface with my notes, which is why I made damn sure I ordered the DVD's too!> > Anyways, thanks for the questions! See you at the Huna Convention?> > Sincerely,> Jim> > > > > > >barbara101ann barbara101ann >Jun 30, 2006 12:37 AM> > > > they keep bring up channeling> >> >I pretty confused. I'm on another group and they keep bringing up > >channeling. One person says to fear it. Another person says to let it > >come through. Who's right? Some of these people seem wacked out. What > >is going on?> >> >Barbara Ann> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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