Some thoughts on TW, Stuck States and Fun States

[Guest guest]

, " darthon4 "

<darthon4> wrote:

 

Okay group,

 

Please notice the sequence that Lori did to be successful!!!

 

> The day I received the DVD's for the 2-day pre Huna intensive in

July

> that I missed, I watched one of the DVD's. Later on that day I had

> an opportunity to try out one of the concepts that you taught

> about " stuck states " on a good friend of mine. He called me up

> because he was pissed-off because the " SOB's " who I work for laid

him

> off his job a few days earlier. After a while I got tired of

holding

> the phone away from my ear so I suggested that we meet for

> lunch...plus I was really hungry! Before meeting him I decided I'd

> create a thoughtform of him doing all the neat things that I knew

he

> was really good at and fully capable of, charged it with a few

other

> fun things and set it aside so that it would be ready and waiting.

I

> probably could have done a mental video later on, or a three

scenes,

> but I wanted to test this out first and see what would happen.

>

> When I saw him he was really down and pissed-off and griping just

as

> I had expected he'd be and I observed this for a little while to

> calibrate things as I listened to him. When we had our food in

front

> of us and were happily eating,

 

Notice that Lori USED A NATURAL BREAK STATE and once he had removed

himself from his troubles FIRST, then Lori placed in the thoughtform

that she'd already made???

 

> I put the thoughtform into his field.

> The change in his attitude was instant.

 

Now group, " why was this so easy? "

 

....and, notice what Lori did next!!!

 

> Suddenly he was talking about all the neat things he was going to

do

> now that he had time on his hands, some investments in condos he

had

> over in Seattle that were doing really well that he could live off

of

> if he needed to, some more property he was going to buy locally,

the

> engineering consulting work he was going to do on the side, how he

> didn't need to work for thankless assholes any more, and on and

> on...it was really funny. I just smiled. I saw this transformation

> occur right in front of me.

 

Thank you Lori.

 

Group, what was this post about?

 

Dr. Joohn M. La Tourrette

[Guest guest]

> Group, what was this post about?

 

 

I can see two topics:

 

a/ Steps to acquire a new skill(here

installing thoughtforms)

b/ Covertly influencing someone to leave them

better off than you found them

 

 

> Okay group,

>

> Please notice the sequence that Lori did to be successful!!!

 

 

a/ to acquire the new skill:

 

1. She went to a valid ressource to get the know-how (here your

DVDs). This ressource most certainly demonstrated the skill, then

showed how one can create a thoughtform so that in the mind of the

audience there wouldn't be doubts of( " is this really possible or is

it a speculation? "

 

2. She experimented the technique out there in real life and she

decided for one tech at the time (thoughtforms, not 3 scenes nor

mental video) so that she would have valid feedback

 

3. Once tested (see below),she calibrated .

 

 

Lori says in her post that she has less and less problems of TW

kicking in, but for most of us, another step is needed between

learning and trying, it would involve either sedating TW or using

EFT " Although I doubt XXXX, I deeply and profoundly accept myself "

 

 

b/ the therapeutic steps

 

 

1. She prepared (here, created a thoughtform beforehand). What is

very important is that she created a " toward " , while her friend was

stuck in an " away from " (maybe not even!)

 

2. She paced her friend " expelling his venom "

 

3. Once the food had created a break state ( " we were happily

eating " ), she could implant a thoughtform that was congruent with

her friend's immediate feelings.

 

4. Her friend suddenly turning to the mood she wanted for him, she

paced him by smiling at him while he was on his future timeline.

 

 

Here again, I think there is something missing . On step 4, she

isn't just openly pacing, she is covertly leading through her

radiant circuits...

 

I guess I'm missing tons of steps! Help me out!

 

Pierre

 

> > The day I received the DVD's for the 2-day pre Huna intensive in

> July

> > that I missed, I watched one of the DVD's. Later on that day I

had

> > an opportunity to try out one of the concepts that you taught

> > about " stuck states " on a good friend of mine. He called me up

> > because he was pissed-off because the " SOB's " who I work for

laid

> him

> > off his job a few days earlier. After a while I got tired of

> holding

> > the phone away from my ear so I suggested that we meet for

> > lunch...plus I was really hungry! Before meeting him I decided

I'd

> > create a thoughtform of him doing all the neat things that I

knew

> he

> > was really good at and fully capable of, charged it with a few

> other

> > fun things and set it aside so that it would be ready and

waiting.

> I

> > probably could have done a mental video later on, or a three

> scenes,

> > but I wanted to test this out first and see what would happen.

> >

> > When I saw him he was really down and pissed-off and griping

just

> as

> > I had expected he'd be and I observed this for a little while to

> > calibrate things as I listened to him. When we had our food in

> front

> > of us and were happily eating,

>

> Notice that Lori USED A NATURAL BREAK STATE and once he had

removed

> himself from his troubles FIRST, then Lori placed in the

thoughtform

> that she'd already made???

>

> > I put the thoughtform into his field.

> > The change in his attitude was instant.

>

> Now group, " why was this so easy? "

>

> ...and, notice what Lori did next!!!

>

> > Suddenly he was talking about all the neat things he was going

to

> do

> > now that he had time on his hands, some investments in condos he

> had

> > over in Seattle that were doing really well that he could live

off

> of

> > if he needed to, some more property he was going to buy locally,

> the

> > engineering consulting work he was going to do on the side, how

he

> > didn't need to work for thankless assholes any more, and on and

> > on...it was really funny. I just smiled. I saw this

transformation

> > occur right in front of me.

>

> Thank you Lori.

>

> Group, what was this post about?

>

> Dr. Joohn M. La Tourrette

[Guest guest]

I could also have elaborated on the thoughtform she chose that would

be easily accepted by the psyche of her friend because it insisted on

what she knew he was good at.

 

Pierre