Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM Botulinum 'is WMD' State Department spokesman: Lethal bio-toxin 'kills people, it kills people in large quantities' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34917 ---------- ---- Posted: October 4, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com The vial of botulinum bacteria discovered in Iraq by U.S. arms inspectors – which experts call the most poisonous substance known to man – is " a weapon of mass destruction, " the State Department's top spokesman announced yesterday. " Botulinum kills people, it kills people in large quantities. Botulinum is a weapon of mass destruction, yes, " said State spokesman Richard Boucher, " according to an Agence France-Presse report. " Anything that destroys on a massive scale is a weapon of mass destruction. " The botulinum had been stored in a vial discovered in an Iraqi scientist's refrigerator, where it had been stored for safe keeping since 1993. Earlier in the day, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the press the report on ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons program, just released by the government's lead weapons inspector David Kay, justified the decision to invade Iraq. Kay's " interim assessment " described discoveries of illicit arms programs, as well as evidence Saddam was intent on developing weapons of mass destruction, including chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, despite United Nations prohibitions. When reporters grilled Powell as to whether he thought weapons inspectors' efforts would ever yield " weapons of mass destruction, " Powell replied rhetorically: " Do you think vials of botulinum should constitute a weapon of mass destruction? " And President George Bush, before boarding Marine One, claimed the Kay report vindicated the Iraqi war effort: " The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a clandestine network of biological laboratories, a live strain of deadly agent botulinum, sophisticated concealment efforts and advanced design work on prohibited longer-range missiles, " said Bush. " These findings already make clear that Saddam Hussein actively deceived the international community, that Saddam Hussein, was in clear violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the world. " The president added that Kaye's " Iraq Survey Group " discovered " dozens of WMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in 2002. " He added that Kay and his team found " systematic destruction of evidence of these illegal activities. " The Bush administration had relied on U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441 as a legal basis for the March invasion. The resolution threatened the Saddam Hussein regime with " serious consequences " for failing to demonstrate that it had ended its WMD program. Weeks before the invasion, on Feb. 5, Powell laid out the case against Saddam before the Security Council and the world, during which he referred to Iraq's biological weapons programs and its capability of producing deadly botulinum and other toxins. " There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more, " Powell said, pointing out Iraq had admitted to producing botulinum. " And he has the ability to dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction. " Noting that the vial of live botulinum bacteria had been hidden in an Iraqi scientist's home refrigerator, Kay, testifying before Congress, said the discovery " illustrates the point ... about the difficulty of locating small stocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadly weapons. " According to Agence France-Presse, the Center for Civilian Bio-defense Strategies at Johns Hopkins University says: " Botulinum toxin is the single most poisonous substance known " and " poses a major bioweapons threat because of its extreme potency and lethality, its ease of production, transport and misuse, and the potential need for prolonged intensive care in affected persons. " Kay, a veteran former U.N. weapons inspector, says the investigation he is leading involves over 1,200 staffers, and is likely to take another six to nine months. He asked reporters for " time and patience in the answers you really deserve, " noting that the regime of Saddam Hussein had " engaged in extensive deceptions. " In fact, said Kay, his team has found signs that arms may have been moved out of the country before Saddam's fall. When reporters asked Kay at a telephone press conference whether chemical or biological weapons had been moved out of Iraq before the March invasion, reports AFP, the lead inspector replied: " We have multiple reports from Iraqis of substances being moved across borders. " He added: " We've got information indicating movement to Iran, Syria, Jordan, essentially all states that border the north with Iraq, that's not surprising those routes have been long used. At least with regard to Syria and Jordan, certainly senior Iraqi officials, both military and scientific, moved to both countries pre-conflict and during the conflict, and some immediately after the conflict. " Earlier this week, biological and chemical weapons turned up in Kuwait, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah. The pro-government daily reported Kuwaiti security forces foiled an attempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country. Citing an unnamed security source, Al-Siyassah said the smugglers had been under surveillance since they arrived in Kuwait and were arrested " in due time. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 The Bush Regime probably PLANTED vial to be FOUND - Misty Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:06 AM Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOMBotulinum 'is WMD'State Department spokesman: Lethal bio-toxin 'kills people, it kills peoplein large quantities'http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34917--Posted: October 4, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern© 2003 WorldNetDaily.comThe vial of botulinum bacteria discovered in Iraq by U.S. arms inspectors –which experts call the most poisonous substance known to man – is "a weaponof mass destruction," the State Department's top spokesman announcedyesterday."Botulinum kills people, it kills people in large quantities. Botulinum is aweapon of mass destruction, yes," said State spokesman Richard Boucher,"according to an Agence France-Presse report. "Anything that destroys on amassive scale is a weapon of mass destruction."The botulinum had been stored in a vial discovered in an Iraqi scientist'srefrigerator, where it had been stored for safe keeping since 1993.Earlier in the day, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the press thereport on ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons program, justreleased by the government's lead weapons inspector David Kay, justified thedecision to invade Iraq.Kay's "interim assessment" described discoveries of illicit arms programs,as well as evidence Saddam was intent on developing weapons of massdestruction, including chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, despiteUnited Nations prohibitions.When reporters grilled Powell as to whether he thought weapons inspectors'efforts would ever yield "weapons of mass destruction," Powell repliedrhetorically: "Do you think vials of botulinum should constitute a weapon ofmass destruction?"And President George Bush, before boarding Marine One, claimed the Kayreport vindicated the Iraqi war effort:"The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a clandestine network ofbiological laboratories, a live strain of deadly agent botulinum,sophisticated concealment efforts and advanced design work on prohibitedlonger-range missiles," said Bush. "These findings already make clear thatSaddam Hussein actively deceived the international community, that SaddamHussein, was in clear violation of United Nations Security CouncilResolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the world."The president added that Kaye's "Iraq Survey Group" discovered "dozens ofWMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related program activities and significantamounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during theinspections that began in 2002." He added that Kay and his team found"systematic destruction of evidence of these illegal activities."The Bush administration had relied on U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441as a legal basis for the March invasion. The resolution threatened theSaddam Hussein regime with "serious consequences" for failing to demonstratethat it had ended its WMD program.Weeks before the invasion, on Feb. 5, Powell laid out the case againstSaddam before the Security Council and the world, during which he referredto Iraq's biological weapons programs and its capability of producing deadlybotulinum and other toxins."There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and thecapability to rapidly produce more, many more," Powell said, pointing outIraq had admitted to producing botulinum. "And he has the ability todispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massivedeath and destruction."Noting that the vial of live botulinum bacteria had been hidden in an Iraqiscientist's home refrigerator, Kay, testifying before Congress, said thediscovery "illustrates the point ... about the difficulty of locating smallstocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadlyweapons."According to Agence France-Presse, the Center for Civilian Bio-defenseStrategies at Johns Hopkins University says: "Botulinum toxin is the singlemost poisonous substance known" and "poses a major bioweapons threat becauseof its extreme potency and lethality, its ease of production, transport andmisuse, and the potential need for prolonged intensive care in affectedpersons."Kay, a veteran former U.N. weapons inspector, says the investigation he isleading involves over 1,200 staffers, and is likely to take another six tonine months. He asked reporters for "time and patience in the answers youreally deserve," noting that the regime of Saddam Hussein had "engaged inextensive deceptions."In fact, said Kay, his team has found signs that arms may have been movedout of the country before Saddam's fall.When reporters asked Kay at a telephone press conference whether chemical orbiological weapons had been moved out of Iraq before the March invasion,reports AFP, the lead inspector replied: "We have multiple reports fromIraqis of substances being moved across borders." He added: "We've gotinformation indicating movement to Iran, Syria, Jordan, essentially allstates that border the north with Iraq, that's not surprising those routeshave been long used. At least with regard to Syria and Jordan, certainlysenior Iraqi officials, both military and scientific, moved to bothcountries pre-conflict and during the conflict, and some immediately afterthe conflict."Earlier this week, biological and chemical weapons turned up in Kuwait,according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah.The pro-government daily reported Kuwaiti security forces foiled anattempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biologicalwarheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country. 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Do you really think if they were going to plant something that they would not have done it long ago. And do you really think Saddam Hussein is innocent? Oh please! Donna - Ed Siceloff Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:47 AM RE: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? Lol. I agtree Lucky. I’ve said, not here, for some months now that given long enough time, WMD will be found because they (Bush administration) will have had time to get them there, on the sly of course. One would think that most of the people residing in the US would be able to figure this one out and at least be suspicious. Along with the entire rest of the world as well. Of course, if the thing dated 1993, that takes us back a few years and would actually be evidence that amonst all the WMD that Hussein had bought, manufactured, or attained by whatever process, could it be possible that one vial of a deadly poison was missed. And, that the evidence would then point to what had been stored previously rather than a pattern of crime after he lost the war with the Bush family and their trading partners. Either one of those scenarios is more likely than the idea that he continued attaining WMD, considering that this vial is the first thing found after how many months of looking. Ed luckypig [luckypig] Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? The Bush Regime probably PLANTED vial to be FOUND - Misty Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:06 AM Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOMBotulinum 'is WMD'State Department spokesman: Lethal bio-toxin 'kills people, it kills peoplein large quantities'http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34917--Posted: October 4, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern© 2003 WorldNetDaily.comThe vial of botulinum bacteria discovered in Iraq by U.S. arms inspectors –which experts call the most poisonous substance known to man – is "a weaponof mass destruction," the State Department's top spokesman announcedyesterday."Botulinum kills people, it kills people in large quantities. Botulinum is aweapon of mass destruction, yes," said State spokesman Richard Boucher,"according to an Agence France-Presse report. "Anything that destroys on amassive scale is a weapon of mass destruction."The botulinum had been stored in a vial discovered in an Iraqi scientist'srefrigerator, where it had been stored for safe keeping since 1993.Earlier in the day, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the press thereport on ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons program, justreleased by the government's lead weapons inspector David Kay, justified thedecision to invade Iraq.Kay's "interim assessment" described discoveries of illicit arms programs,as well as evidence Saddam was intent on developing weapons of massdestruction, including chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, despiteUnited Nations prohibitions.When reporters grilled Powell as to whether he thought weapons inspectors'efforts would ever yield "weapons of mass destruction," Powell repliedrhetorically: "Do you think vials of botulinum should constitute a weapon ofmass destruction?"And President George Bush, before boarding Marine One, claimed the Kayreport vindicated the Iraqi war effort:"The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a clandestine network ofbiological laboratories, a live strain of deadly agent botulinum,sophisticated concealment efforts and advanced design work on prohibitedlonger-range missiles," said Bush. "These findings already make clear thatSaddam Hussein actively deceived the international community, that SaddamHussein, was in clear violation of United Nations Security CouncilResolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the world."The president added that Kaye's "Iraq Survey Group" discovered "dozens ofWMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related program activities and significantamounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during theinspections that began in 2002." He added that Kay and his team found"systematic destruction of evidence of these illegal activities."The Bush administration had relied on U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441as a legal basis for the March invasion. The resolution threatened theSaddam Hussein regime with "serious consequences" for failing to demonstratethat it had ended its WMD program.Weeks before the invasion, on Feb. 5, Powell laid out the case againstSaddam before the Security Council and the world, during which he referredto Iraq's biological weapons programs and its capability of producing deadlybotulinum and other toxins."There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and thecapability to rapidly produce more, many more," Powell said, pointing outIraq had admitted to producing botulinum. "And he has the ability todispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massivedeath and destruction."Noting that the vial of live botulinum bacteria had been hidden in an Iraqiscientist's home refrigerator, Kay, testifying before Congress, said thediscovery "illustrates the point ... about the difficulty of locating smallstocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadlyweapons."According to Agence France-Presse, the Center for Civilian Bio-defenseStrategies at Johns Hopkins University says: "Botulinum toxin is the singlemost poisonous substance known" and "poses a major bioweapons threat becauseof its extreme potency and lethality, its ease of production, transport andmisuse, and the potential need for prolonged intensive care in affectedpersons."Kay, a veteran former U.N. weapons inspector, says the investigation he isleading involves over 1,200 staffers, and is likely to take another six tonine months. He asked reporters for "time and patience in the answers youreally deserve," noting that the regime of Saddam Hussein had "engaged inextensive deceptions."In fact, said Kay, his team has found signs that arms may have been movedout of the country before Saddam's fall.When reporters asked Kay at a telephone press conference whether chemical orbiological weapons had been moved out of Iraq before the March invasion,reports AFP, the lead inspector replied: "We have multiple reports fromIraqis of substances being moved across borders." He added: "We've gotinformation indicating movement to Iran, Syria, Jordan, essentially allstates that border the north with Iraq, that's not surprising those routeshave been long used. At least with regard to Syria and Jordan, certainlysenior Iraqi officials, both military and scientific, moved to bothcountries pre-conflict and during the conflict, and some immediately afterthe conflict."Earlier this week, biological and chemical weapons turned up in Kuwait,according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah.The pro-government daily reported Kuwaiti security forces foiled anattempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biologicalwarheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country. Citing an unnamedsecurity source, Al-Siyassah said the smugglers had been under surveillancesince they arrived in Kuwait and were arrested "in due time."«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUSSAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS,GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC.$11.95 For Single or$19.95 For an entire household per month!Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ Email: MEM121«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 --- the phage vector for most biological pathogens is E Coli., making the E coli. the vehicle that carries it into the system biological weapons have been used for centuries karl In , " CountryGirl " <ruthful@p...> wrote: > Do you really think if they were going to plant something that they would not have done it long ago. And do you really think Saddam Hussein is innocent? Oh please! > > Donna > - > Ed Siceloff > > Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:47 AM > RE: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? > > > Lol. I agtree Lucky. I've said, not here, for some months now that given long enough time, WMD will be found because they (Bush administration) will have had time to get them there, on the sly of course. One would think that most of the people residing in the US would be able to figure this one out and at least be suspicious. Along with the entire rest of the world as well. Of course, if the thing dated 1993, that takes us back a few years and would actually be evidence that amonst all the WMD that Hussein had bought, manufactured, or attained by whatever process, could it be possible that one vial of a deadly poison was missed. And, that the evidence would then point to what had been stored previously rather than a pattern of crime after he lost the war with the Bush family and their trading partners. Either one of those scenarios is more likely than the idea that he continued attaining WMD, considering that this vial is the first thing found after how many months of looking. > > > > Ed > > > > > luckypig [luckypig@i...] > Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:01 AM > > Re: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? > > > > > > The Bush Regime probably PLANTED vial to be FOUND > - > > Misty > > Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age > > Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:06 AM > > Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? > > > > OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM > Botulinum 'is WMD' > State Department spokesman: Lethal bio-toxin 'kills people, it kills people > in large quantities' > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34917 > ------------------------------ ------------- > ---- > Posted: October 4, 2003 > 1:00 a.m. Eastern > > > > © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com > > > The vial of botulinum bacteria discovered in Iraq by U.S. arms inspectors - > which experts call the most poisonous substance known to man - is " a weapon > of mass destruction, " the State Department's top spokesman announced > yesterday. > > " Botulinum kills people, it kills people in large quantities. Botulinum is a > weapon of mass destruction, yes, " said State spokesman Richard Boucher, " > according to an Agence France-Presse report. " Anything that destroys on a > massive scale is a weapon of mass destruction. " > > The botulinum had been stored in a vial discovered in an Iraqi scientist's > refrigerator, where it had been stored for safe keeping since 1993. > > Earlier in the day, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the press the > report on ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons program, just > released by the government's lead weapons inspector David Kay, justified the > decision to invade Iraq. > > Kay's " interim assessment " described discoveries of illicit arms programs, > as well as evidence Saddam was intent on developing weapons of mass > destruction, including chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, despite > United Nations prohibitions. > > When reporters grilled Powell as to whether he thought weapons inspectors' > efforts would ever yield " weapons of mass destruction, " Powell replied > rhetorically: " Do you think vials of botulinum should constitute a weapon of > mass destruction? " > > And President George Bush, before boarding Marine One, claimed the Kay > report vindicated the Iraqi war effort: > > " The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a clandestine network of > biological laboratories, a live strain of deadly agent botulinum, > sophisticated concealment efforts and advanced design work on prohibited > longer-range missiles, " said Bush. " These findings already make clear that > Saddam Hussein actively deceived the international community, that Saddam > Hussein, was in clear violation of United Nations Security Council > Resolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the world. " > > The president added that Kaye's " Iraq Survey Group " discovered " dozens of > WMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related program activities and significant > amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the > inspections that began in 2002. " He added that Kay and his team found > " systematic destruction of evidence of these illegal activities. " > > The Bush administration had relied on U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441 > as a legal basis for the March invasion. The resolution threatened the > Saddam Hussein regime with " serious consequences " for failing to demonstrate > that it had ended its WMD program. > > Weeks before the invasion, on Feb. 5, Powell laid out the case against > Saddam before the Security Council and the world, during which he referred > to Iraq's biological weapons programs and its capability of producing deadly > botulinum and other toxins. > > " There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the > capability to rapidly produce more, many more, " Powell said, pointing out > Iraq had admitted to producing botulinum. " And he has the ability to > dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive > death and destruction. " > > Noting that the vial of live botulinum bacteria had been hidden in an Iraqi > scientist's home refrigerator, Kay, testifying before Congress, said the > discovery " illustrates the point ... about the difficulty of locating small > stocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadly > weapons. " > > According to Agence France-Presse, the Center for Civilian Bio- defense > Strategies at Johns Hopkins University says: " Botulinum toxin is the single > most poisonous substance known " and " poses a major bioweapons threat because > of its extreme potency and lethality, its ease of production, transport and > misuse, and the potential need for prolonged intensive care in affected > persons. " > > Kay, a veteran former U.N. weapons inspector, says the investigation he is > leading involves over 1,200 staffers, and is likely to take another six to > nine months. He asked reporters for " time and patience in the answers you > really deserve, " noting that the regime of Saddam Hussein had " engaged in > extensive deceptions. " > > In fact, said Kay, his team has found signs that arms may have been moved > out of the country before Saddam's fall. > > When reporters asked Kay at a telephone press conference whether chemical or > biological weapons had been moved out of Iraq before the March invasion, > reports AFP, the lead inspector replied: " We have multiple reports from > Iraqis of substances being moved across borders. " He added: " We've got > information indicating movement to Iran, Syria, Jordan, essentially all > states that border the north with Iraq, that's not surprising those routes > have been long used. At least with regard to Syria and Jordan, certainly > senior Iraqi officials, both military and scientific, moved to both > countries pre-conflict and during the conflict, and some immediately after > the conflict. " > > Earlier this week, biological and chemical weapons turned up in Kuwait, > according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah. > > The pro-government daily reported Kuwaiti security forces foiled an > attempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biological > warheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country. Citing an unnamed > security source, Al-Siyassah said the smugglers had been under surveillance > since they arrived in Kuwait and were arrested " in due time. " > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§« ¤» > > NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUS > SAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS, > GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC. > $11.95 For Single or > $19.95 For an entire household per month! > Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period > Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits > > http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ > > Email: MEM121@S... > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§« ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» > > § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § > > Subscribe:......... - > To :.... - > > Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, > any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Saddam Hussien is the most tyrannical dictator there ever was perhaps in the leagues of hitler and stalin. What nobody see's is the oppression and deaths he caused to the minorities. The Kurds and the Shi'ite people. If I had a chance I would personally put a bullet thru his head, of course before that I will give Mr. Willis his 4 secs Farees Mohiuddin e-Business Strategist Juvo, Inc NATURAL RAW MEALfarees www.GoJuvo.com CountryGirl [ruthful] Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? Do you really think if they were going to plant something that they would not have done it long ago. And do you really think Saddam Hussein is innocent? Oh please! Donna - Ed Siceloff Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:47 AM RE: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? Lol. I agtree Lucky. I’ve said, not here, for some months now that given long enough time, WMD will be found because they (Bush administration) will have had time to get them there, on the sly of course. One would think that most of the people residing in the US would be able to figure this one out and at least be suspicious. Along with the entire rest of the world as well. Of course, if the thing dated 1993, that takes us back a few years and would actually be evidence that amonst all the WMD that Hussein had bought, manufactured, or attained by whatever process, could it be possible that one vial of a deadly poison was missed. And, that the evidence would then point to what had been stored previously rather than a pattern of crime after he lost the war with the Bush family and their trading partners. Either one of those scenarios is more likely than the idea that he continued attaining WMD, considering that this vial is the first thing found after how many months of looking. Ed luckypig [luckypig] Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? The Bush Regime probably PLANTED vial to be FOUND - Misty Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:06 AM Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOMBotulinum 'is WMD'State Department spokesman: Lethal bio-toxin 'kills people, it kills peoplein large quantities'http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34917--Posted: October 4, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern© 2003 WorldNetDaily.comThe vial of botulinum bacteria discovered in Iraq by U.S. arms inspectors –which experts call the most poisonous substance known to man – is "a weaponof mass destruction," the State Department's top spokesman announcedyesterday."Botulinum kills people, it kills people in large quantities. Botulinum is aweapon of mass destruction, yes," said State spokesman Richard Boucher,"according to an Agence France-Presse report. "Anything that destroys on amassive scale is a weapon of mass destruction."The botulinum had been stored in a vial discovered in an Iraqi scientist'srefrigerator, where it had been stored for safe keeping since 1993.Earlier in the day, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the press thereport on ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons program, justreleased by the government's lead weapons inspector David Kay, justified thedecision to invade Iraq.Kay's "interim assessment" described discoveries of illicit arms programs,as well as evidence Saddam was intent on developing weapons of massdestruction, including chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, despiteUnited Nations prohibitions.When reporters grilled Powell as to whether he thought weapons inspectors'efforts would ever yield "weapons of mass destruction," Powell repliedrhetorically: "Do you think vials of botulinum should constitute a weapon ofmass destruction?"And President George Bush, before boarding Marine One, claimed the Kayreport vindicated the Iraqi war effort:"The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a clandestine network ofbiological laboratories, a live strain of deadly agent botulinum,sophisticated concealment efforts and advanced design work on prohibitedlonger-range missiles," said Bush. "These findings already make clear thatSaddam Hussein actively deceived the international community, that SaddamHussein, was in clear violation of United Nations Security CouncilResolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the world."The president added that Kaye's "Iraq Survey Group" discovered "dozens ofWMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related program activities and significantamounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during theinspections that began in 2002." He added that Kay and his team found"systematic destruction of evidence of these illegal activities."The Bush administration had relied on U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441as a legal basis for the March invasion. The resolution threatened theSaddam Hussein regime with "serious consequences" for failing to demonstratethat it had ended its WMD program.Weeks before the invasion, on Feb. 5, Powell laid out the case againstSaddam before the Security Council and the world, during which he referredto Iraq's biological weapons programs and its capability of producing deadlybotulinum and other toxins."There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and thecapability to rapidly produce more, many more," Powell said, pointing outIraq had admitted to producing botulinum. "And he has the ability todispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massivedeath and destruction."Noting that the vial of live botulinum bacteria had been hidden in an Iraqiscientist's home refrigerator, Kay, testifying before Congress, said thediscovery "illustrates the point ... about the difficulty of locating smallstocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadlyweapons."According to Agence France-Presse, the Center for Civilian Bio-defenseStrategies at Johns Hopkins University says: "Botulinum toxin is the singlemost poisonous substance known" and "poses a major bioweapons threat becauseof its extreme potency and lethality, its ease of production, transport andmisuse, and the potential need for prolonged intensive care in affectedpersons."Kay, a veteran former U.N. weapons inspector, says the investigation he isleading involves over 1,200 staffers, and is likely to take another six tonine months. He asked reporters for "time and patience in the answers youreally deserve," noting that the regime of Saddam Hussein had "engaged inextensive deceptions."In fact, said Kay, his team has found signs that arms may have been movedout of the country before Saddam's fall.When reporters asked Kay at a telephone press conference whether chemical orbiological weapons had been moved out of Iraq before the March invasion,reports AFP, the lead inspector replied: "We have multiple reports fromIraqis of substances being moved across borders." He added: "We've gotinformation indicating movement to Iran, Syria, Jordan, essentially allstates that border the north with Iraq, that's not surprising those routeshave been long used. At least with regard to Syria and Jordan, certainlysenior Iraqi officials, both military and scientific, moved to bothcountries pre-conflict and during the conflict, and some immediately afterthe conflict."Earlier this week, biological and chemical weapons turned up in Kuwait,according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah.The pro-government daily reported Kuwaiti security forces foiled anattempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biologicalwarheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country. Citing an unnamedsecurity source, Al-Siyassah said the smugglers had been under surveillancesince they arrived in Kuwait and were arrested "in due time."«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUSSAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS,GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC.$11.95 For Single or$19.95 For an entire household per month!Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ Email: MEM121«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 ---he is not by far the worst tyranical leader in the world hell!, Hi!, one has to look no further than the good ol' USA to find worse, like the ones in the US government that sold Saddam all those weapons to begin with, where is their trial by war like his?? there are far too many tyrants in the world that could use some extra holes in their heads that are much further up the chain of tyranical command than Saddam I believe Voltaire said it best with " the world will be a much better place to live when we hang the last politician next to the last priest " of course we now need to add a few professions starting with lawyers and many others the United States are being run by a tyranical judicial branch that has managed to supercede the " checks and balances " by taking over the congressional branch The United States has the most notorious tyrants of any country in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Period!! they run the " DEATH " factories that produce tons and tons of organo- phosphate weapons , biologicals, ordinances, etc. and all they produce is that scam the suckers fall for called WAR!! any fool can start a war, but it takes some intelligence to avoid it! the Crown of England owns Loylld's of London Loylld's owns State Farm amd Allstate the Crown felt that it was losing too much money in auto accidents due to uninsured motorist so the crown ordered Allstate and Sate Farm to petition the Congress to enact a law ,thereby making illegal to drive without insurnace effectively reducing losses and creating a great increase in revenue, same applies to the seat belt law and so on and so on TSK! TSK! Dont tell me you thought the congress worked for " the people " cause " the people " elected them. Wrong!! they also work for foreign governments and impose foreigners desires upon us, to the tune of financial enslavement!! they are Traitors to the American people and should be treated accordingly the only way to fix the US government is to start over from scratch!!!! Karl In , " Farees Mohiuddin " <farees@g...> wrote: > Saddam Hussien is the most tyrannical dictator there ever was perhaps in > the leagues of hitler and stalin. What nobody see's is the oppression > and deaths he caused to the minorities. The Kurds and the Shi'ite > people. If I had a chance I would personally put a bullet thru his > head, of course before that I will give Mr. Willis his 4 secs > > Farees Mohiuddin > > e-Business Strategist > > Juvo, Inc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 And just how in Bush's Amerika does one follow from the other? Who on this list, or anywhere else for that matter, has ever claimed that Saddam was a poor, innocent fellow? That is the kind of reasoning that we have come to expect from the dittohead right wing nuts. What a dissapointment, i really expected better from you Donna. >Do you really think if they were going to plant something that they would not have done it long ago. And do you really think Saddam Hussein is innocent? Oh please! > >Donna -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 See, here is the point. Why was it not possible to just "take out" Sadam Insane. Why bomb the country. He is not the only cruel dictator on this planet. Very good example is the nutcase in North Korea. He is openly flaunting nuclear weapons, crimes against humanity and we are "not interested". We are not interested because there is NO OIL there. We "helped" Afghanistan so we could get the pipeline completed, which is being built by Cheney's company ...you know the one he is not a member of, but just happens to have the contracts to rebuild BOTH countries. Bush by the way last week came out and said, there is NO CONNECTION BETWEEN IRAQ AND 9/11 yet most Americans either did not listen or don't want to know that we INVADED a country on the pretext of "helping" Okay, so we helped them, WHY ARE WE STILL THERE. The U.S. Service is NOT the POLICE FORCE OF THE WORLD If you are fine with that, then maybe you should take a look at the economy, we are in a world of quicksand here and sinking fast .... Lucky - Farees Mohiuddin Monday, October 06, 2003 2:11 PM RE: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? Saddam Hussien is the most tyrannical dictator there ever was perhaps in the leagues of hitler and stalin. What nobody see's is the oppression and deaths he caused to the minorities. The Kurds and the Shi'ite people. If I had a chance I would personally put a bullet thru his head, of course before that I will give Mr. Willis his 4 secs Farees Mohiuddin e-Business Strategist Juvo, Inc NATURAL RAW MEALfarees www.GoJuvo.com CountryGirl [ruthful] Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? Do you really think if they were going to plant something that they would not have done it long ago. And do you really think Saddam Hussein is innocent? Oh please! Donna - Ed Siceloff Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:47 AM RE: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? Lol. I agtree Lucky. I’ve said, not here, for some months now that given long enough time, WMD will be found because they (Bush administration) will have had time to get them there, on the sly of course. One would think that most of the people residing in the US would be able to figure this one out and at least be suspicious. Along with the entire rest of the world as well. Of course, if the thing dated 1993, that takes us back a few years and would actually be evidence that amonst all the WMD that Hussein had bought, manufactured, or attained by whatever process, could it be possible that one vial of a deadly poison was missed. And, that the evidence would then point to what had been stored previously rather than a pattern of crime after he lost the war with the Bush family and their trading partners. Either one of those scenarios is more likely than the idea that he continued attaining WMD, considering that this vial is the first thing found after how many months of looking. Ed luckypig [luckypig] Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? The Bush Regime probably PLANTED vial to be FOUND - Misty Health and Healing ; Armageddon or New Age Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:06 AM Botulinum 'is WMD' ?? OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOMBotulinum 'is WMD'State Department spokesman: Lethal bio-toxin 'kills people, it kills peoplein large quantities'http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34917--Posted: October 4, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern© 2003 WorldNetDaily.comThe vial of botulinum bacteria discovered in Iraq by U.S. arms inspectors –which experts call the most poisonous substance known to man – is "a weaponof mass destruction," the State Department's top spokesman announcedyesterday."Botulinum kills people, it kills people in large quantities. Botulinum is aweapon of mass destruction, yes," said State spokesman Richard Boucher,"according to an Agence France-Presse report. "Anything that destroys on amassive scale is a weapon of mass destruction."The botulinum had been stored in a vial discovered in an Iraqi scientist'srefrigerator, where it had been stored for safe keeping since 1993.Earlier in the day, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the press thereport on ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons program, justreleased by the government's lead weapons inspector David Kay, justified thedecision to invade Iraq.Kay's "interim assessment" described discoveries of illicit arms programs,as well as evidence Saddam was intent on developing weapons of massdestruction, including chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, despiteUnited Nations prohibitions.When reporters grilled Powell as to whether he thought weapons inspectors'efforts would ever yield "weapons of mass destruction," Powell repliedrhetorically: "Do you think vials of botulinum should constitute a weapon ofmass destruction?"And President George Bush, before boarding Marine One, claimed the Kayreport vindicated the Iraqi war effort:"The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a clandestine network ofbiological laboratories, a live strain of deadly agent botulinum,sophisticated concealment efforts and advanced design work on prohibitedlonger-range missiles," said Bush. "These findings already make clear thatSaddam Hussein actively deceived the international community, that SaddamHussein, was in clear violation of United Nations Security CouncilResolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the world."The president added that Kaye's "Iraq Survey Group" discovered "dozens ofWMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related program activities and significantamounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during theinspections that began in 2002." He added that Kay and his team found"systematic destruction of evidence of these illegal activities."The Bush administration had relied on U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441as a legal basis for the March invasion. The resolution threatened theSaddam Hussein regime with "serious consequences" for failing to demonstratethat it had ended its WMD program.Weeks before the invasion, on Feb. 5, Powell laid out the case againstSaddam before the Security Council and the world, during which he referredto Iraq's biological weapons programs and its capability of producing deadlybotulinum and other toxins."There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and thecapability to rapidly produce more, many more," Powell said, pointing outIraq had admitted to producing botulinum. "And he has the ability todispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massivedeath and destruction."Noting that the vial of live botulinum bacteria had been hidden in an Iraqiscientist's home refrigerator, Kay, testifying before Congress, said thediscovery "illustrates the point ... about the difficulty of locating smallstocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadlyweapons."According to Agence France-Presse, the Center for Civilian Bio-defenseStrategies at Johns Hopkins University says: "Botulinum toxin is the singlemost poisonous substance known" and "poses a major bioweapons threat becauseof its extreme potency and lethality, its ease of production, transport andmisuse, and the potential need for prolonged intensive care in affectedpersons."Kay, a veteran former U.N. weapons inspector, says the investigation he isleading involves over 1,200 staffers, and is likely to take another six tonine months. He asked reporters for "time and patience in the answers youreally deserve," noting that the regime of Saddam Hussein had "engaged inextensive deceptions."In fact, said Kay, his team has found signs that arms may have been movedout of the country before Saddam's fall.When reporters asked Kay at a telephone press conference whether chemical orbiological weapons had been moved out of Iraq before the March invasion,reports AFP, the lead inspector replied: "We have multiple reports fromIraqis of substances being moved across borders." He added: "We've gotinformation indicating movement to Iran, Syria, Jordan, essentially allstates that border the north with Iraq, that's not surprising those routeshave been long used. At least with regard to Syria and Jordan, certainlysenior Iraqi officials, both military and scientific, moved to bothcountries pre-conflict and during the conflict, and some immediately afterthe conflict."Earlier this week, biological and chemical weapons turned up in Kuwait,according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah.The pro-government daily reported Kuwaiti security forces foiled anattempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biologicalwarheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country. Citing an unnamedsecurity source, Al-Siyassah said the smugglers had been under surveillancesince they arrived in Kuwait and were arrested "in due time."«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUSSAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS,GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC.$11.95 For Single or$19.95 For an entire household per month!Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ Email: MEM121«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. 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