Comparing Apples to Oranges is NOT logical, is it?

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You'll get no argument from me on the increased value of practicing

a martially-based form of Qigong. Since Yi moves Qi, and Qi moves Li

(or in Wade-Giles parlance, if I moves Ch'i, and Ch'i moves Li) then

it follows that the greater the intention, the more Qi movement and

the more Qi movement, the greater the benefit to the body (Li).

 

Personally, I have never gone in for non-martial forms of Qigong,

either. But my experience has been that people like you and me are

the exception rather than the rule in that we're willing to (or

maybe even like to) be in the sh!t (if you've trained with SOG, then

you know what I'm talking about).

 

Since there's benefit in any effort to conciously move Qi (Qigong,

martial arts, take-one's-dough etc), I'm not going to deride people

that want to take this approach just because they don't want to be

in a fighting environment. So I guess we're sort of in agreement.

It's just that I don't like to cast aspersions.

 

As for the Wade vs Pinyin topic, you forgot the the Ch in Ch'i is an

asperated consonant (according to the Wade-Giles system). So to

revise your table:

 

1. Qi - Ch'i

2. Qigong - Ch'i Kung

3. Qin Na - Ch'in Na -- even Jimmy Yang (Yang Jwing Ming) got this

one wrong

4. Jing - Ching (no asperation-no apostrophe)

actuall, Jin means Spirit, Jing (as in Fa-Jing) means

both physical power and semen, depending on context

5. Gongfu - Kung fu

6. Taijiquan - T'ai Chi Ch'uan

 

 

Personally, I think it's a lot more important that a person do

SOMETHING to improve their life and heath than it is to do nothing.

I'm not going to make fun of the ones that don't want to strap on

kevlar and blow through a door.

 

But what do I know? I'm just a dumb country boy.

 

 

Regards (and ducking in anticipation of the coming flames 8^)

 

Ron

 

 

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

> healingenergies-

essentialskills , " marangneng "

> <marangneng> wrote:

> > So, by your reasoning, is acupuncture no good unless the needles

are

> > used for combat? After all, acupuncture and Qigong (I prefer the

> > Pinyin transliteration) are about manipulating Qi, are they not?

> > Ron

>

> Hahahaha!

>

> Sorry Ron, you switching topics and comparing apples to oranges is

NOT

> a valid argument, nor is it worth answering.

>

> Try a different approach with me;-)...

>

> ...and please notice that I said, " different strokes for different

> folks, which is okay by me " ...

>

> ...I don't care if some people would rather do " sissy fu " ...

>

> That's their choice.

>

> The thing is, doing COMBAT CHI KUNG you get immediate verifiable

> feedback " if " your technology works or is hocus pocus...

>

> ...and I gotta say it, much of " sissy fu " is hocus pocus.

>

> As far as the transliteration of the Chinese words for Chi kung,

> Pinyin is now the standard in the People's Republic of China...but

it

> did not use to be.

>

> Two other very widely known systems are the Wade-Giles system and

the

> Yale system.

>

> So common spellings are...

>

> 1. Qi - Chi

> 2. Qigong - Chi Kung

> 3. Qin Na - Chin Na

> 4. Jin - Jing

> 5. Gongfu - Kung fu

> 6. Taijiquan - Tai Chi Chuan

>

> You will notice that the SECOND spelling is mostly known AND used

in

> the Western world, at least until about 10 years ago...

>

> ...and my martial arts history of training goes back to 1950, and

I

> see NO reason for me to change the spelling since the spellings I

> learned during the past 55 years is STILL VALID.

>

> Sincerely,

>