Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 , " marangneng " <marangneng> wrote: >I'm not going to deride people > that want to take this approach Ooops. How about " just informing those people " of the reality and the differences? What they get with one system...what they DON'T GET with that system? How about just teaching those budding " sissy fu's " trainees the technologies of Energy Testing???... ....so they can verify when their trainers are telling the truth???... .... or are just speaking esoteric bull???... ....or are telling out-right lies for fraudulent marking purposes? How about teaching those budding SF's the secrets of the CLARITY MODEL so they can see if the training is in alignment with where they " think " (an opinon based on not enough data) they want to go? Sorry Ron, many people, if NOT most people that do " funny dancing " and call it Chi Kung, are just kidding themselves. They are " pretending " it works just BECAUSE they want it to be true. NO VERIFICATION PROCESSES are taught! Or, worst yet, their trainer is kidding them, and he is the one casting false aspersions (a double here so people know what the word means;-)... >just because they don't want to be in a fighting environment. What is this about a fighting environment? I mentioned nothing about fighting. They don't need to go to Iraq, nor to Columbia, nor to the L.A. getto., nor to the 21 Club here in Medford... ....but if they did, there skills would be very functional! I mentioned the Chi Kung (energy) skills must align with proper and valid martial arts technologies. In my schools we teach (a very SIMPLE version, with much much omitted)... MANDATORY PART #1. Private one-on-one trainings where the student has an uke and a black belt trainer. So the Tori always has someone to do the technologies against/with for verification of the newly learned skills... MANDATORY PART #2. Semi-private MASTERY classes, lead by an INSTRUCTOR LEVEL Black Belt, that leads them through, hundreds if not thousands of repetitions of those basic MASTER KEYS learned in the Private one-on-one... MANDATORY PART #3. Semi-Private MASTERY SPARRING, lead by a PROFESSOR level black belt, where the students practice COMBAT ATTACK SEQUENCES and COMBAT COUNTER-ATTACK SEQUENCES on real live humans THAT ARE WELL TRAINED and very aggressive... MANDATORY PART #4. Semi-Private COMBAT Energy technologies... MANDATORY PART #5. Semi-Private Energy HEALING technologies... MANDATORY PART #6-27. BLAB, BLAB, BLAB... So that these students can neutralize the oncoming attack ENERGITICALLY before they get hit, THEN counter-attack using an unconscious technology, a sequence that is faster than the conscious mind... There is so much more than this, but if you've NOT had the trainings, it's hard to chunk it down to understandable levels so those that HAVE NOT had the trainings. Anyone of my personal students want to jump in here and explain a bit more? ....about how energy, intention, dim mak, rooting, blab, blab, blab are necessary parts of any TRUE CHI KUNG system? My point is, they are very well trained, and their training is deeply rooted in the subconscious mind and the energy systems... ....so figuratively speaking, they are " cocked & locked " in " combat condition one, when and if the situation arises... ....which hopefully, it never will. ....and if it does, they are trained in much more than a Sledge- Hammer Blow to the Temple Kill Spot, or ramming that thumb through the hole in the back of their head... >So I guess we're sort of in agreement. > It's just that I don't like to cast aspersions. There were NO aspersions cast. In fact, please notice that I never cast aspersions... So, what do I do instead? It's plain and simple...if people want to do Tae Bo and pretend it's something vast, mysterious and secret, that's okay with me. Most Chi Kung taught are no more valid than Tae Bo is for what they pretend to teach. Lori, see the " stink " that you caused? Helen, see the " stink " that you caused? Rusty, where in Hell are you? You should be jumping in on this... You just gotta " sung " what we are talking about. Hahahahaha! Ps. Ron, I've really enjoyed your posts. Well thought out. Researched, and done from a basis of EXPERIENCE. I love that type of post, even if I disagree with it...or, I agree with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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