Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 healingenergies- essentialskills , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > this post goes back a bit but I was wondering - what is an >acceptable level of dropout or relapse? There are ways to handle this. And from your presuppositions you are doing them one time? Then hoping they'll call back? Or, from one appointment, hopefully to the next? Oh my GOD! >I know that if I can decrease this level then I can > increase my client base. I have seen over 200 clients in 18 >months from starting from scratch. So, tell me your system of " retention " . Tell me your " system " of new acquisitions. I can really help with this. And I need to know what your " system " of retention is first. > In my mental video i viewed each and every one of > them coming back, doing the drills, happy etc. So, what " actions " are you taking systematically to augment that MANIFESTATION? >Part of me wonders if that is outside the realm of the possible. It's in the realm of possibility, and you need a physical inplace " system " to augment that marketing done remotely. They work hand-in-glove. Back in 1987 I started a new studio, in a new town, from scratch. Within 30 days I had over 122 new clients, all on contracts for a years worth of training. And, that was just the start! I had a " system " for getting their attention. I had a " system " for talking to them on the telephone. I had a " system " for walk-ins. I had a " system " for the initial interview. I had a " system " for the intro trainings sessions. I had a " system " for getting them motivated, on ALL THE ABOVE! I had a " system " for signing them up for long term training AFTER they were motivate... ....AFTER they could FEEL THE VALUE of the training emotionally... ....AFTER they wanted it so badly that they'd do just about anything to get that knowledge, because that knowledge was/is so valuable! And THAT'S JUST A START OF THE " SYSTEMS " I used. This was in a town where most in my field were (and still are) going broke. What are your " systems " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Shit, every time I read this kind of post from you it reminds me that there is so much more I can do. I have aspects of this but I need to think about it, get some thoughts down on paper and give you a coherent response and at the moment my accounts take priority cos I have a bank manager meeting on Friday..... Actually maybe i should be prioritising getting my thinking straight cos that would help the business be even more successful..... - " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:37 PM Our Body has ENERGY SYSTEMS, so does SUCCESS! > healingenergies- > essentialskills , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...> > wrote: > >> this post goes back a bit but I was wondering - what is an >>acceptable level of dropout or relapse? > > There are ways to handle this. > > And from your presuppositions you are doing them one time? > > Then hoping they'll call back? > > Or, from one appointment, hopefully to the next? > > Oh my GOD! > >>I know that if I can decrease this level then I can >> increase my client base. I have seen over 200 clients in 18 >>months from starting from scratch. > > So, tell me your system of " retention " . > > Tell me your " system " of new acquisitions. > > I can really help with this. > > And I need to know what your " system " of retention is first. > >> In my mental video i viewed each and every one of >> them coming back, doing the drills, happy etc. > > So, what " actions " are you taking systematically to augment that > MANIFESTATION? > >>Part of me wonders if that is outside the realm of the possible. > > It's in the realm of possibility, and you need a physical > inplace " system " to augment that marketing done remotely. > > They work hand-in-glove. > > Back in 1987 I started a new studio, in a new town, from scratch. > > Within 30 days I had over 122 new clients, all on contracts for a > years worth of training. > > And, that was just the start! > > I had a " system " for getting their attention. > > I had a " system " for talking to them on the telephone. > > I had a " system " for walk-ins. > > I had a " system " for the initial interview. > > I had a " system " for the intro trainings sessions. > > I had a " system " for getting them motivated, on ALL THE ABOVE! > > I had a " system " for signing them up for long term training AFTER > they were motivate... > > ...AFTER they could FEEL THE VALUE of the training emotionally... > > ...AFTER they wanted it so badly that they'd do just about anything > to get that knowledge, because that knowledge was/is so valuable! > > And THAT'S JUST A START OF THE " SYSTEMS " I used. > > This was in a town where most in my field were (and still are) going > broke. > > What are your " systems " ? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 healingenergies- essentialskills , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > Shit, every time I read this kind of post from you it reminds me >that there is so much more I can do. > I have aspects of this but I need to think about it, get some >thoughts down on paper and give you a coherent response and at the >moment my accounts take priority cos I have a bank manager meeting >on Friday..... > Actually maybe i should be prioritising getting my thinking >straight cos that would help the business be even more >successful..... > > Cris Yes, A lot of real fine people out in the world are living very scared from day to day not knowing where there next buck is coming from. And it's all because they lack marketing & sales " systems " . They are very good at what they do...but that's about it. On the other hand, there are some very medioacre people out there, barely competant at what they profess to know, but BECAUSE THEY KNOW SYSTEMS, they are raking in the bucks, taking vacations in the Bahamas, blab, blab, blab... The " systems " approach mentioned below is one that I used to " sell " back in the late 70's up to the mid 80's for TWENTY THOUSAND BUCKS. And, everyone that bought, and followed the instructions made easily over $100K per year! Lately, to a few InnerCircle members, that have came to my seminars and have REQUESTED PRIVATE ONE-ON-ONES ABOUT THEIR CONSULTING, HEALING & PSYCHOTHERAY/HYPNOSIS BUSINESSES, I have also taught some of those skills. I love to see good people do good monetarily. Unfortunately, I've even taught some sleaze bags these secrets...and guess what? Yep! That's right. They became millionaires FASTER than the real competant ones! Funny how that works. On another note, I've even a couple of people that bought the training, did well at it, BUT NEVER USED IT because they were AFRAID in their hearts that they couldn't succeed. These types amaze me. > - > >> this post goes back a bit but I was wondering - what is an > >>acceptable level of dropout or relapse? > > > > There are ways to handle this. > > > > And from your presuppositions you are doing them one time? > > > > Then hoping they'll call back? > > > > Or, from one appointment, hopefully to the next? > > > > Oh my GOD! > > > >>I know that if I can decrease this level then I can > >> increase my client base. I have seen over 200 clients in 18 > >>months from starting from scratch. > > > > So, tell me your system of " retention " . > > > > Tell me your " system " of new acquisitions. > > > > I can really help with this. > > > > And I need to know what your " system " of retention is first. > > > >> In my mental video i viewed each and every one of > >> them coming back, doing the drills, happy etc. > > > > So, what " actions " are you taking systematically to augment that > > MANIFESTATION? > > > >>Part of me wonders if that is outside the realm of the possible. > > > > It's in the realm of possibility, and you need a physical > > inplace " system " to augment that marketing done remotely. > > > > They work hand-in-glove. > > > > Back in 1987 I started a new studio, in a new town, from scratch. > > > > Within 30 days I had over 122 new clients, all on contracts for a > > years worth of training. > > > > And, that was just the start! > > > > I had a " system " for getting their attention. > > > > I had a " system " for talking to them on the telephone. > > > > I had a " system " for walk-ins. > > > > I had a " system " for the initial interview. > > > > I had a " system " for the intro trainings sessions. > > > > I had a " system " for getting them motivated, on ALL THE ABOVE! > > > > I had a " system " for signing them up for long term training AFTER > > they were motivate... > > > > ...AFTER they could FEEL THE VALUE of the training emotionally... > > > > ...AFTER they wanted it so badly that they'd do just about anything > > to get that knowledge, because that knowledge was/is so valuable! > > > > And THAT'S JUST A START OF THE " SYSTEMS " I used. > > > > This was in a town where most in my field were (and still are) going > > broke. > > > > What are your " systems " ? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hmmm, and I need to do so much more as well!! Thanks for another fantastic thread that is SO relevant for me. It is early days for my business and what I am offering is starting to grow and expand. I have the potential to be far more successful, I just need to wrap my head around how to do it. It took a while to really be able to look at myself and realize just how much I have to offer. That made a huge difference in how I talk to people. It also took a while to place value on it. Now I need to increase the value!! I did put my prices up at the beginning of the year and will do so again fairly soon. It would really help if what I do was covered by people's health plans but right now it isn't. My thoughts are that what I charge is a very small price to pay for feeling better. Doc, I am also very interested in the ads if you care to post them. I have never had to advertise before and have been learning the hard way about all the ways NOT to do it. Cris, I was also following the thread on the lady that is having trouble losing weight. I got rid of a client a few weeks ago because she just wasn't willing to invest herself in the healing process. She wanted me to do all the work. She couldn't even keep a food diary or make an effort to drink more water. The final visit left me completely drained. She had walked in the door looking really pale and her energy was extremely low. When she left she had colour in her cheeks, she was laughing (never heard her laugh before) and her energy was much improved. She called a week later to say that she hadn't experienced any change from the treatment!! Yes, I needed the income but I also didn't want to keep giving my energy and my time if she wasn't willing to make an effort. Elizabeth hunter.cris [hunter.cris] June 1, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Our Body has ENERGY SYSTEMS, so does SUCCESS!Shit, every time I read this kind of post from you it reminds me that there is so much more I can do.I have aspects of this but I need to think about it, get some thoughts down on paper and give you a coherent response and at the moment my accounts take priority cos I have a bank manager meeting on Friday.....Actually maybe i should be prioritising getting my thinking straight cos that would help the business be even more successful.....Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hi Chris, Two suggestions, (a) hook up with the established medical/psychiatric workers. for instance, a psychiatrist could refer some clients with relatively simple (in his perception) problems to you or (in the Netherlands) large companies have their own social-medical staff who can refer people to you for instance, with burn-out problems (b) after you have treated clients in one-on-one sessions you could offer them some more general improvement courses. Each participant pays less but with enough particpants there is still good money to be made. This of course could be extended (once you have a good base for the short courses) to this once a year not-to-be-missed-retreat at the .... Bahamas (or any other place you would like to visit. Greetings, René Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Cris -- Maybe change your attitude about this client a wee bit. They may just have lower standards about what they expect from themselves and they are very happy with what you teach them. It's enough for them (if they recommend you - then they honestly believe they have received a value) If they are marketing for you, then that is a good thing. (think of it as a double payment...) Also - it may help to see what it is about ALL your clients that you are very positive about. Where else would you find that sort of person? Also - is there a local new age/self help radio show?? I know a bunch of people who market really well through that medium. Helen On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:24 AM, hunter.cris wrote: > I need to eliminate the ones that come for two or three sessons and > then > stop - even though they carry on recommending me to others. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I stand corrected...... I DO appreciate the people who come for a few sesh and then stop BUT I also think there must be a way of keeping them coming for review sessions etc yet something is getting in the way otherwise they would still be coming AND recommending me. Am I just too greedy? Too demanding? Hmmmm.....something all my clients have in common that i am positive about????? they come see me I dunno, feel a bit lost on this one. i feel positive at the slightest change in them/their fields etc, I feel positive about those who are pretty well balanced too.... I guess I don't feel positive about their need - is that what you mean? - " Helen Driscoll " <helen Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:35 AM Re: Re: Our Body has ENERGY SYSTEMS, so does SUCCESS! > Cris -- > > Maybe change your attitude about this client a wee bit. They may just > have lower standards about what they expect from themselves and they > are very happy with what you teach them. It's enough for them (if they > recommend you - then they honestly believe they have received a value) > > If they are marketing for you, then that is a good thing. (think of it > as a double payment...) > > Also - it may help to see what it is about ALL your clients that you > are very positive about. Where else would you find that sort of person? > > Also - is there a local new age/self help radio show?? I know a bunch > of people who market really well through that medium. > > Helen > > On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:24 AM, hunter.cris wrote: > >> I need to eliminate the ones that come for two or three sessons and >> then >> stop - even though they carry on recommending me to others. >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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