Manipulation can be so very very NASTY! Can't it?

April 13, 2005

--- , Dawn Mucha <dawnmucha1> wrote:

> when in your classes, you teach different ways to put things in

>your favor (some have called it manipulation).

An interesting comment.

Group, let me tell you a recent story, if I may?

It's about healing, which could be construded as a form of

manipulation.

My wife and I just got back about 5 am this morning from helping a

relative come back from their death bed.

She was dying. We were called to come and say " goodby " , if we could

make it in time...

She is 85 years old.

Massive heart attack.

Had given up all reasons for living. My wife's mother.

So we drove up to Colville and started her on a healing process.

(HEALING ENERGIES work MUCH MUCH better when done face to face!)

We spent seven days there, doing what we could so she would find the

courage, energies and the technologies to live.

We manipulated her into " wanting to live " by reminded her BY HER OWN

CRITERIA what she has lived for in the past.

The SECRET?

Once you give them a REASON they believe in, than any " how " will

work!

Then, using allopathic medicine, hypnosis, proper goal orientation,

and very good energy work that uses the proper energies to

revitalize the heart, the paricardium and the Will, we got her to

come back.

We also united the family.

A very disunited, angry family that skitters selfishly away from

each other, and really spits out what they think,with few

considerations for anyone else.

All the bickering people that normally let their tiny ego's get in

the way of their love and compassion.

It was really fun and interesting to " notice their wants, desires

and away-froms, and then teach them how to get what they wanted and

still have a cohesive family unit.

So, damn betcha!

We manipulated them also.

I'm not real smart, but I'm smart enough to know that for the

elderly mom to get well and stay well, the family needed be be warm

and huggy feely towards each other.

Just another secret, from many, of the FREINDLY ENERGIES HEALING

COURSE.

We also gave that elderly mom (I paid for it out of my pocket), a

trailer house to live in...so they are away from family members that

they don't want to be bothered by, but still are very close to the

homecare nurse we hired, and the remaining family members that are

also helping her.

She needed her own private space, to have that healing come true.

So, you are right, I am a manipulator.

> I am reminded of a time I learned about how you directed your

>energy.... I was in your class and the whole class went out for

>dinner...

Interesting comment. I think some of your facts are way off.

Let me remind you if I may.

That was the $1,297 class that you manipulated your way into WITHOUT

PAYING for, wasn't it?

Not a penny?

Not one red cent?

And, you didn't manipulate me, but someone that I love, appreciate

and care for, so, at that time I just went deep inside, spread out

all the puzzle pieces, and then fit them together to find some hint

of the big picture.

I did find the big picture.

And since I do like the person YOU manipulated, I did allow that

form of manipulation, ONE time.

>at one point, I gave you (Doc) a gift card to a book store.

It's okay. I did NOT use it. In fact, I don't even remember it.

>After I did that, I said to myself " shit he just " did it " to me!

Yes, you must be right.

It makes perfect sense that I manipulated you out of something I did

not want, do not remember, and if it happened, I never used.

>why did I give away a card that I could use, when he can darn well

>afford to buy his own books! "

I do buy my own books.

Many of them. About $2,000 bucks worth every month.

Maybe you APPRECIATED THE LEARNINGS so much, you, out of those good

feelings DESIRED to show some appreciation?

By the way, how long ago was it I booted you from my list?

Two years ago?

I " wonder " what form of manipulation I was using with you then?

> I laughed to myself knowing that I fell " under your spell " and

>from this I learned to be more attentive to my energy!

Maybe you fell under YOUR own spell!

Maybe you are jerking your own chain, and confusing hallucinations

inside you own head for something that never did happen and never

will happen?

I'll tell you what...

....just give me the amount of the " gift of appreciation " you say you

gave me, and even though I don't remember it, didn't use it, and

don't think it happened, I'll send you a check.

Is that fair?

Or, is being " MORE THAN FAIR " just another form of manipulation?

Just a friendly warning group...

Those who manipulate others, Those who fear manipulation will

redefine any gift, and caring, as a form of manipulation.

My God, another form of manipulation?

Or, perhaps I'm playing more fairly than you gave me credit for?

Manipulation can be so very very NASTY! Can't it?

April 14, 2005

hi i'm so new to this group as well as the techniques that u basically mention so its a bit hard for me to work it out , how is it possible to make someone believe in something out of their will , i mean how did u make that lady to believe in the reasons that she wanted to live ... cuz identically my mum is havin problems about her choices for livin ... so am a bit curious about it ...

thanx so much