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Hi Everyone,

 

I am glad that this subject has been brought up. Machines are becoming very

popular around here especially two 1) Omega Machine and 2) Jasper Machine.

The practioniers using them are using selling points such that one can tell a

lot about the client with the machine both diagnostic and herbal/nutritton

related as well as treatment strategy. Both machines are very expensive. The

Omega is 14K and the Jasper 25K. People are paying 200+ a Tx. for this info.

I have been unable to get a reading on this machines without paying so I

don't know much about them, but would love to hear what people know about

them.

Thanks and Love,

 

Bobbi

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acupuncture, bobbiaqua@a... wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I am glad that this subject has been brought up. Machines are

becoming very

> popular around here especially two 1) Omega Machine and 2) Jasper

Machine.

> The practioniers using them are using selling points such that one

can tell a

> lot about the client with the machine both diagnostic and

herbal/nutritton

> related as well as treatment strategy. Both machines are very

expensive. The

> Omega is 14K and the Jasper 25K. People are paying 200+ a Tx. for

this info.

> I have been unable to get a reading on this machines without paying

so I

> don't know much about them, but would love to hear what people know

about

> them.

> Thanks and Love,

>

> Bobbi

 

Bobbi:

 

I work with an MD who has one. I have worked with him for 2 years and

I have yet to really figure out how to translate the results to TCM

as I learned it. The machine is based on Voll's work. He claims that

TCM is incomplete and his machine found additional meridians. So the

results show that the patient has " reversed polarity " , or that

the " adrenal meridian is deficient " , or the " pancreas is in excess " .

 

I went to a conference presented by the manufacturer on advanced use

of the machine. There were only 2 people in the room who had any TCM

training... me and the presenter. She seemed to have a decent

background, but was strongly influenced by the empirical reports by

the users of the machines. She did suggest that I could get a better

understanding if the tester ran all the chinese herbs from a list and

see what the machine recommended to " balance " the patient. The idea

was to work backward from the herbs to get a TCM diagnosis that

corresponded to the machine's. It helped a little, but mostly, I have

given up.

 

My take is this is a " neat toy " for someone who doesn't have the time

or inclination to learn TCM to a functional level. (Mostly chiros and

MDs at the seminar). I see it as a short-cut designed to be

impressive, sell products and generate diagnostic revenue. (I hope

the MD I work with doesn't stumble on to this post!). Maybe if I

really understood how to use it I would feel differently... but then

why would I have spent 3 years in school, all that money, and

continue to study to learn TCM?

 

If someone on the list is an experienced practitioner of TCM and also

has found a way to incorporate the use of the machine, I would be

very interested in hearing about it.

 

Michael Buyze, L.Ac.

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