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Very scary Kathe. It sometimes takes a major catastrophe in our own back yard to wake some people up, and on the other hand, some never do come around, and just apathetically die.

 

And the funny thing is, that those who blindly walk to the scaffold, are the one's who'll scream the loudest about how unfair it all is when the fecal matter hits the revolving air manipulator (the shit hits the fan ;o).

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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nkbaker2001 <nkbaker2001

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Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:06 PM

[herbal remedies] flu shot

I feel bad for our older friends and relatives. They have been taught to put all their faith in their dr.'s, so dutifully take their flu shot because their told to. I understand that this yrs. flu shot was especially bad, and put a high no. of people in the hospital. I just saw a report on t.v. , that if dr's told their patients that they were going to get the smallpox vaccine, 78% of people would follow and get it too! Suggestion being, tell your patients your getting the smallpox vaccine, scary. Kathe

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Can anyone post some good URLs that tell folks why they should avoid

flu shots? I tried to go to the one the original poster mentioned,

and I couldn't find the flu information, plus it appeared to be a

web site for selling stuff. I'd just like a URL or two that I could

send a flu shot fanatic to, to maybe start opening their eyes.

 

Melinda

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It seems there were some previously posted...check the archives, messages.. try searching for "flu shots" if you get a blank, keep hitting the "next" button.

Suzi

"Melinda <clicker" <clicker wrote:

Can anyone post some good URLs that tell folks why they should avoid flu shots? I tried to go to the one the original poster mentioned, and I couldn't find the flu information, plus it appeared to be a web site for selling stuff. I'd just like a URL or two that I could send a flu shot fanatic to, to maybe start opening their eyes.MelindaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Melinda

because they make you sick. your body will fight against itself with these kind of shots. Also the kid shots. They are killing us now. This is why we get cancer, lupus, etc......

 

All thanks goes to your GOV. Keep them out of your life and you will live.

 

Randy

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I have a slow connection and had already spent an hour and a half

looking through the archives before I asked. Mostly what I found

was a bunch of " me too " posts -- I'd just asked if anyone had any

informative URLs to share, as I'd looked around and hadn't found

anything, but apparently not. Thanks anyway.

 

Melinda

 

herbal remedies , Suzanne Nottmeier

<suziesgoats> wrote:

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> It seems there were some previously posted...check the archives,

messages.. try searching for " flu shots " if you get a blank, keep

hitting the " next " button.

> Suzi

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Melinda Merry Christmas LOL! These are direct links to our archives (I had a slow connection for a long time). They contain insightful articles and some links to further information.

 

Janet

 

herbal remedies/message/25616

 

herbal remedies/message/25602

 

herbal remedies/message/25516

 

herbal remedies/message/25422

 

 

 

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Melinda <clicker

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Monday, December 23, 2002 1:56 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: flu shot

I have a slow connection and had already spent an hour and a half looking through the archives before I asked. Mostly what I found was a bunch of "me too" posts -- I'd just asked if anyone had any informative URLs to share, as I'd looked around and hadn't found anything, but apparently not. Thanks anyway.Melindaherbal remedies , Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats> wrote:> > It seems there were some previously posted...check the archives, messages.. try searching for "flu shots" if you get a blank, keep hitting the "next" button.> SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Thanks, Janet, this was very considerate of you. They weren't all

about flu shots (and I dunno why 's stupid search engine didn't

pick up the one that was) -- but they were all interesting and

excellent. I was pleased to see Ron Paul authored one of them, too.

 

Melinda

 

herbal remedies , " Dragonhealer "

<dragonhealing@a...> wrote:

> Melinda Merry Christmas LOL! These are direct links to our

archives (I had a slow connection for a long time). They contain

insightful articles and some links to further information.

>

> Janet

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> herbal remedies/message/25616

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> herbal remedies/message/25602

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> herbal remedies/message/25516

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> herbal remedies/message/25422

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  • 8 months later...

Interesting little tidbit, our local news station is urging everyone to "get a flu shot"..... yeah, that will happen for me NOT ...

 

particularly after she said the CDC was encouraging it .... you know like they encouraged the "small pox vaccine" and "vaccinating the troops" .... yeah, I will rush right out and get that flu shot ...... :o(

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Just a note to hopefully keep people from getting very sick. I was given a tetanus and pneumonia vaccination. I was sick and on prednisone. I developed joint pain. I now have rheumatoid arthritis,fibromyalgia,possibly lupus too. My life is basically OVER. I became pregnant 2 months after the shots and trying to take care of her is so hard. I am not trying to start a fight with people who get the shots,but I want to tell you all to research them because they are very deadly. I am lucky to be alive. One more shot could kill me. Love Janet

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Hi, my name is Barbara and I'm new to this group. I understand what

you're saying about the flu shot, but have to say, every year that I

didn't get the flu shot, I thought I was going to die with the flu.

so I get one every year. Now the small pox vaccination is something

else. Barb.............--- In

, " luckypig " <luckypig@i...> wrote:

> Interesting little tidbit, our local news station is urging

everyone to " get a flu shot " ..... yeah, that will happen for

me NOT ...

>

> particularly after she said the CDC was encouraging it .... you

know like they encouraged the " small pox vaccine " and " vaccinating

the troops " .... yeah, I will rush right out and get that flu

shot ...... :o(

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Hi Barbra, I think I would much rather take my chances with the flu than have a microchip implanted or them give you some designer virus.

 

Every year my boyfriend gets a flu shot, and every year I don't get the flu shot.

 

Guess what...we both get sick about the same amount...he might be worse as far as the flu goes because he always takes a couple of days off of work where I don't.

 

Knowing what I know about the government there is no way I would voluntarily take any vaccination at all...there will have to be someone standing over me with a gun before I will do it (and they probabally will too)

 

I think I would rather take my chances with the virus they are claiming they are trying to prevent than have them put something new in me.

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Hi, my name is Barbara and I'm new to this group. I understand what you're saying about the flu shot, but have to say, every year that I didn't get the flu shot, I thought I was going to die with the flu. so I get one every year. Now the small pox vaccination is something else. Barb.............---

 

 

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Cindy, I agree with you about not getting

a flu shot. After all, the flu shot

is supposed to protect you from just one strain of flu, and if a different

strain happens to come along for which you didn’t get the shot for, then

you get that strain. It never made

much sense to me. Boost your immune

system – get those natural killer cells working!! Your body will protect itself –

feed it properly.

Carol

 

 

 

 

 

Cindy Porter

[pgmr_64804]

 

 

 

Hi Barbra, I think I

would much rather take my chances with the flu than have a microchip implanted

or them give you some designer virus.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Only if they have allowed their immune system to become compromised through alcohol use, drug use, wrong diet, etc. But then they really truly won't catch it from you anyway. They already have the viruse living inside of them waiting for its chance to be very opportunistic. This time of year they are extremely opportunistic. Lots of cooked dead food, too much sugar, alcohol etc. No shot will ever protect anyone from getting anything. Sorry but it just ain't gonna happen. The only way to protect oneself totally is to clean up your diet, cleanse your body and live a perfectly healthy lifestyle, no drugs, alcohol, dead de-vitalized food, junk food, sugars, preprocessed food, dairy etc.

 

Don Quai

 

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tempo33x

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Friday, October 17, 2003 2:48 AM

[herbal remedies] Re: Flu Shot

If everyone else has a flu shot, they can't very catch it from you can they?herbal remedies , "tempo33x" <tempo33x> wrote:> herbal remedies , "keridwen2000" > <keridwen@i...> wrote:> > Personally, I'm finding it a little unnerving at how there is such > a > > push for EVERYONE to get the flu shot. My workplace is giving them > > away for free, and there are flyers up everywhere telling us to do > > the responsible thing and get a flu shot. > > > > And let's not forget the guilt trip. Get a flu shot or YOU might > be > > responsible for passing the flu onto a poor, elderly person who > may > > die just because they came into contact with you. > > > > I dunno....there is just way too much emphasis this year on > > vaccinating everyone. It is spooky.

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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  • 4 years later...

<<Posted by: " Anthony Moore " Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:29 am (PST)

Where is the evidence to suggest that the shots are made from

mercury??????? >>

 

 

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm

 

Visit this link and click on the package inserts for the influenza

vaccines. The package inserts are from official pharmaceutical

manufacturer sites. Most of them have thimerosal (25 micrograms of

mercury per dose). Fluarix and " Preservative-Free " Fluvirin are made

with thimerosal in the manufacturing process and later had thimerosal

removed to a " trace " level.

Fluzone comes in a No Preservative version that was made without

thimerosal. Flumist (the only live virus vaccine) also does not use

thimerosal.

 

Also read this article on the dilemma of flu vaccine manufacturers

vs. thimerosal.

http://www.nomercury.org/science/documents/LA%20Times%20-%20Myron%

20Levin%204-1-04.pdf

 

Here is a list of all vaccines and their thimerosal content

(including flu vaccines).

http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#t3

 

Helen

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