100% Vegetarian is a Myth by Dr. Leo Rebello

[Guest guest]

Thank you Somshekhar Nair for "enlightening" us

that Naan, Kulcha, Rumaali Roti is Non Vegetarian.

Next time, please enquire with the said manager of

your regular Vegetarian Restaurant to find out whether he is

selling Icecream, Coke and Pepsi and whether these

products are Veg or Non Veg.

 

Also, add the following to your list of Non Vegetarian food.

Those who drink milk are not vegetarians.

Show me a child who has grown up without milk.

Those who take allopathic medicines/vaccines are not vegetarians.

Those who eat sugar are not vegetarians.

Those who eat mithai with varak etc. are not vegetarians.

Gelatin consumers are not vegetarians.

[Ofcourse vegetarian Gelatin is available.

But Gelatin is largely made of extracts of boiled bones,

hooves and animal tissues].

Jelly is not vegetarian.

In oils (Dalda controversy of 15 years old if you'd remember),

beef tallow is used.

Those who eat Khara (salted) biscuits and cakes are not vegetarians.

Italian chef recently wrote that even Vegetarian soups

in Italy (or for that matter in most western countries, I'd say)

are made of pork or beef stock.

 

So, those who claim that they are 100 percent vegetarians

are hoodwinking themselves. 100% vegetarian is a myth.

Can Baba Ramdev or Sri Sri Ravi Shankar say that they

are 100% vegetarian?

 

Best WishesDr. Leo Rebello

www.healthwisdom.org

 

 

 

 

Vag Shantharam Shenai

Prabha Krishnan ; Nandita Shah ; Dhimant Joshi ; Dr. Leo Rebello

Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:04 PM

Naan Kulcha Rumaali roti is Non Vegetarian

Vispi Jokhi <vhjokhiSun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:18 AMNaan Kulcha Rumaali roti is Non VegetarianSOMSHEKHAR P.NAIR <spn2000Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:13 PMNaan Kulcha Rumaali roti is Non VegetarianShree Kumar Nair <shreeknair, Razaque Inamdar <rhinamdar, Chandran nair <nairvrc, ChandraMohan Thekkattil <mohan100, bhavesh vyas <bha_vyas, bankim desai <bankim65, Ashok pagrut <ashok.pagrutCc: Smita N <Smita.N, SINDHU <sindhu, Shreelakshmi <sreelakshmi20in, Rari Baburaj <raribabu, Raji Ravindran <rajiravindran, Leena S Nair <nairlsn, Chandrika R Nair <nair_chandrika, Beena V Nair <nairv4, Aruna Chandramohan <arunachandramohan, "Ajith,Dhanya" <dhanya.ajith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read the experience of one of my friend:

Having visited a very good restaurant in Suburban Mumbai, we ordered Jain Subzi along with combination of NAN & Roti. In a few seconds the managers of the restaurant who was known to me from many years approached me and requested me to cut NAN from our order as it was not a JAIN food, I inquired to him that how was that possible as it's only made of MAIDA.

What he clarified with his professional ethics was just shocking, here are the details:-

1] NAN, KULCHA & RUMALI ROTI CANNOT BE MADE WITHOUT EGG in it. It is absolutely impossible for any one to make them without egg in a hotel. It will not be that soft and elastic through out the day and shall start to crack in some time.

2] He also clarified that as been registered a Vegetarian Hotel he can't bring in eggs so they get the Atta made in ready form from local bakeries who prepare it for them and supply to all restaurants.

3] He also said that even though all restaurants owners will deny this but it is a fact and that others do not say it so as to not loose business. In fact they turn a blind eye on what the bakery wala adds to the atta mixture.

4] He also stated that he has experience for so many years as a restaurant manager in many hotels does not know any single outlet that could give you VEGETARIAN NAN, KULCHA or RUMALI ROTI.

5] He also stated that he now clarifies it to all his clients, as he feels that it is against his ethics to not provide details

to the customer.

6] Only Plain Roti is the only item that a normal Vegeterian or a Jain can consume in a hotel.

All this stated above is 100% true and I shall request all of you to PLEASE give this detail to all your friends who are not only Jain but even Vegetarian.

 

BEST REGARDS,SOMSHEKHAR P.NAIRCell No: 09820157292.Email: spn2000 spn2000

[Guest guest]

In the west a vegetarian is someone who does not eat dead flesh from some once living creature - we have had this argument/discussion before - a VEGAN is someone who allegedly takes no animal protein - the difference is fairly clear.

 

In India it appears to be a different label.

 

Jane

 

-

Dr. Leo Rebello

Alt Health

Cc: Vag Shantharam Shenai ; kriprabha ; vhjokhi ; Nandita Shah ; Baba Ramdev ; Sri Sri Ravishankar

Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:16 PM

[HealthyIndia] 100% Vegetarian is a Myth by Dr. Leo Rebello

 

Thank you Somshekhar Nair for "enlightening" us

that Naan, Kulcha, Rumaali Roti is Non Vegetarian.

Next time, please enquire with the said manager of

your regular Vegetarian Restaurant to find out whether he is

selling Icecream, Coke and Pepsi and whether these

products are Veg or Non Veg.

 

Also, add the following to your list of Non Vegetarian food.

Those who drink milk are not vegetarians.

Show me a child who has grown up without milk.

Those who take allopathic medicines/vaccines are not vegetarians.

Those who eat sugar are not vegetarians.

Those who eat mithai with varak etc. are not vegetarians.

Gelatin consumers are not vegetarians.

[Ofcourse vegetarian Gelatin is available.

But Gelatin is largely made of extracts of boiled bones,

hooves and animal tissues].

[Guest guest]

Respected Prabha Krishnan

Many thanks for your clarification to the message of Dr Rebello.

I can sight the name of Dr Anne Besant, who as well as Lord

Hume and Mr A.P. Sinnette who have written lot of books, and also

books on Art of living.

Dr. Besent brought for our country a message which is without

any distinction of caste, creed, sex, religion, colour or

nation.though she was a british national but if one goes through her

work, will agree that she was not less than any Hindu saint, in her

living, preaching as also in eating habbits.

I have travelled many countries of the world, and had been

carrying lot of food items with me, in case I do not get vegetarian

food there, I use to prepare my own because I am pure vegetarian.

Despite this in many places foods like Ice cream and cake

etc.eggs were mixed, but I had taken it.

As a theosophist, we have belief in all religions and I know

Dr. Rebello, he too believe and have faith in all religions, like any

theosophist.

Dr Annie Besent, Lord Hume and Mr A.P. Senette, brought

message of theosophy in India.

The theosophical Society was established in New York(USA)

in 1875, by Madam H.P. Blawatsky and Col. Olcot and they brought it

to India established headquarters of the Society at Adyar Chennai.

I have been associated with a project for about 4 years at

shantiniketan(West Bengal) on Rural Development, where I had been in

teaching job. I was surprised that Sri Ravindra Nath Tagore had

introdused a subject ' THEOSOPHY' in shantinekatan University.In india

only Shantinikatan University has introdused theosophy as a subject.

, So what ever I learnt so far, is that food habbits have to

do nothing with religion. Many muslims are vegetarians. there are many

Muslim who are in theosophical Society as also Christians, Hindu,

Sikhs, Jains and Zorastrians and many more. one can vizit Blavatsky

Lodge of Theosophical Society, in Mumbai to know more about this

society.

I am a member since 1966 and presently President of

Theosophical Society,in Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, which was established

in Lucknow in the year 1882 and i am trying my best to practice what

I preach.

If I have written any thing, which hurts feeling of any

one I seek pardon.

with due regards to you and all other friends, that for their own

health, adopt vegetarianism, and never raise any question of

compatability/ acceptability by one religion or the other.

May God Bless you

with kind regards

DR. J.N. SHARMA

 

On 9/29/08, Prabha Krishnan <kriprabha wrote:

> Dear Dr. Rebello,

> You do bring up good points, and often add meaningful stuff to discussions.

> Yet I find that you consistently sneak in anti-Hindu sentiments in most of

> your mail.

>

> In the context of vegetarian vs non-vegetarian food, you have taken a most

> unwarranted swipe at Baba Ramdev and at Sri Sri Ravishankarji.

>

> In the course of my research into paradoxical healing I did an Inner

> Healing Retreat at St. Pius Church in Mulund with Fr. Periera. I got an

> overwhelming impression of unease and fear of the Other -- in this case

> Hindus. This is reflected in Fr. Rufus' writings as well.

> Whereas Art of Living consistently welcomes inputs from other groups. At a

> local Devi mandir in Powai, celebrants were welcomed by a large Santa during

> Christmas. I ask you which church will welcome worshippers during Diwali

> with a figure of Goddess Lakshmi?

> Yet in my book, I have only focussed on the benefits wrought by Charismatic

> Healing.

>

> This entire trend reminds me of " artist " M F Hussain who consistently paints

> denigrating pictures of Hindu goddesses and then whines for " freedom of

> artistic expression " . Can he depict Islamic figures this way in the name of

> that same artistic freedom?

>

> Dr. Rebello, your website is called " health wisdom. " Health wisdom consists

> of accepting and celebrating the diversity of thought and approaches to

> knowledge, not living life with one eye always over your shoulder.

> Live well and stay well, Dr.

>

> Best, Prabha Krishnan.

>

>

> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Jagnarain Sharma <

> jagnarain.sharma wrote:

>

>> Dear Dr Rebello

>> you have brought the truth to the knowledge of the vegetarians,

>> in India, as also Somshekhar P. Nair, on Nan, Rumali Roti and Kulcha.

>> During my stay in U.K., in 1987, as Student in Birmingham University,

>> I use to bring 4 Leters pack of Ice-Cream, and keep in the Fridge,

>> which cost only 1.29 pound, and I alongwith my friend enjoy it every

>> day, after the meal.

>> Then later during my tour of other countries, in Poland

>> when I was eating Ice Cream, one fellow told me that it contain eggs.

>> As I was pure vegetarian, I stopped taking Ice Cream, WHILE VISITING

>> OTHER COUNTRIES.

>> Again when I visited Japan in 1990, Japan Airlines served me

>> vegetarian food.

>> On salad spread, I found a pudding like item, I just took it

>> and was putting in my mouth. before I could swallow it there was a

>> smell in it, so I did not eat it and on calling the Air Hostess, she

>> told me it is fish preparation. I asked why I was served, this when I

>> have clearly mentioned in my card ' vegetarian'. I got reply,Sir, it

>> is vegetarian. I was however surprised on this.She said that throw

>> this pudding and eat the remaining salad and food. I further asked her

>> to bring another food, but she said we ordered only for one food. so

>> just I could take some pea nuts only.

>> During my stay in Japan I found many items which contained fish.

>> The Air Hostess clarified that in future I must write in the

>> menu card ' HINDU VEGETARIAN'.

>> Prior to that in 1987 , on an invitation, I participated in

>> a vegetarian conference at Warsawa(Poland), where participants from

>> 46 countries participated. A japanese lady participant spoke that

>> though she is a non-vegetarian but in Japan lot of vegetarians are

>> there.

>> During the proceedings I clarified that in India even there

>> are vegetarian people who do not even take onion or garlic. There only

>> in that conference I was told that Fish and Eggs are vegetarian items,

>> in other part of the world.

>> So, all vegetarians in India should know the facts.

>> Best Regards to you and all others who participated in the above

>> delebrations E mail.

>> Dr. J.N. Sharma

>> I

>>

>> On 9/28/08, Dr. Leo Rebello <leorebello wrote:

>> > Thank you Somshekhar Nair for " enlightening " us

>> > that Naan, Kulcha, Rumaali Roti is Non Vegetarian.

>> > Next time, please enquire with the said manager of

>> > your regular Vegetarian Restaurant to find out whether he is

>> > selling Icecream, Coke and Pepsi and whether these

>> > products are Veg or Non Veg.

>> >

>> > Also, add the following to your list of Non Vegetarian food.

>> > Those who drink milk are not vegetarians.

>> > Show me a child who has grown up without milk.

>> > Those who take allopathic medicines/vaccines are not vegetarians.

>> > Those who eat sugar are not vegetarians.

>> > Those who eat mithai with varak etc. are not vegetarians.

>> > Gelatin consumers are not vegetarians.

>> > [Ofcourse vegetarian Gelatin is available.

>> > But Gelatin is largely made of extracts of boiled bones,

>> > hooves and animal tissues].

>> > Jelly is not vegetarian.

>> > In oils (Dalda controversy of 15 years old if you'd remember),

>> > beef tallow is used.

>> > Those who eat Khara (salted) biscuits and cakes are not vegetarians.

>> > Italian chef recently wrote that even Vegetarian soups

>> > in Italy (or for that matter in most western countries, I'd say)

>> > are made of pork or beef stock.

>> >

>> > So, those who claim that they are 100 percent vegetarians

>> > are hoodwinking themselves. 100% vegetarian is a myth.

>> > Can Baba Ramdev or Sri Sri Ravi Shankar say that they

>> > are 100% vegetarian?

>> >

>> > Best Wishes

>> > Dr. Leo Rebello

>> > www.healthwisdom.org

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Vag Shantharam Shenai

>> > Prabha Krishnan ; Nandita Shah ; Dhimant Joshi ; Dr. Leo Rebello

>> > Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:04 PM

>> > Naan Kulcha Rumaali roti is Non Vegetarian

>> > Vispi Jokhi <vhjokhi

>> > Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:18 AM

>> > Naan Kulcha Rumaali roti is Non Vegetarian

>> > SOMSHEKHAR P.NAIR <spn2000

>> > Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:13 PM

>> > Naan Kulcha Rumaali roti is Non Vegetarian

>> > Shree Kumar Nair <shreeknair, Razaque Inamdar

>> > <rhinamdar, Chandran nair <nairvrc,

>> > ChandraMohan Thekkattil <mohan100, bhavesh vyas

>> > <bha_vyas, bankim desai <bankim65, Ashok pagrut

>> > <ashok.pagrut

>> > Cc: Smita N <Smita.N, SINDHU <sindhu,

>> > Shreelakshmi <sreelakshmi20in, Rari Baburaj

>> > <raribabu, Raji Ravindran <rajiravindran,

>> Leena

>> > S Nair <nairlsn, Chandrika R Nair

>> > <nair_chandrika, Beena V Nair <nairv4,

>> Aruna

>> > Chandramohan <arunachandramohan, " Ajith,Dhanya "

>> > <dhanya.ajith

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Read the experience of one of my friend:

>> > Having visited a very good restaurant in Suburban Mumbai, we ordered

>> Jain

>> > Subzi along with combination of NAN & Roti. In a few seconds the

>> > managers

>> of

>> > the restaurant who was known to me from many years approached me and

>> > requested me to cut NAN from our order as it was not a JAIN food, I

>> inquired

>> > to him that how was that possible as it's only made of MAIDA.

>> > What he clarified with his professional ethics was just shocking, here

>> are

>> > the details:-

>> > 1] NAN, KULCHA & RUMALI ROTI CANNOT BE MADE WITHOUT EGG in it. It is

>> > absolutely impossible for any one to make them without egg in a hotel.

>> > It

>> > will not be that soft and elastic through out the day and shall start to

>> > crack in some time.

>> > 2] He also clarified that as been registered a Vegetarian Hotel he

>> can't

>> > bring in eggs so they get the Atta made in ready form from local

>> > bakeries

>> > who prepare it for them and supply to all restaurants.

>> > 3] He also said that even though all restaurants owners will deny this

>> but

>> > it is a fact and that others do not say it so as to not loose business.

>> In

>> > fact they turn a blind eye on what the bakery wala adds to the atta

>> mixture.

>> > 4] He also stated that he has experience for so many years as a

>> > restaurant manager in many hotels does not know any single outlet that

>> could

>> > give you VEGETARIAN NAN, KULCHA or RUMALI ROTI.

>> > 5] He also stated that he now clarifies it to all his clients, as he

>> feels

>> > that it is against his ethics to not provide details

>> > to the customer.

>> > 6] Only Plain Roti is the only item that a normal Vegeterian or a Jain

>> can

>> > consume in a hotel.

>> > All this stated above is 100% true and I shall request all of you to

>> > PLEASE give this detail to all your friends who are not only Jain but

>> even

>> > Vegetarian.

>> >

>> > BEST REGARDS,

>> > SOMSHEKHAR P.NAIR

>> > Cell No: 09820157292.

>> > Email: spn2000

>> > spn2000

>>

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