Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 Dear Jenny, If you have a real interest in oils, I suggest that you read Udo Erasmus' book, " Fats That Heal And Fats That Kill. " . If you read it you will know more than you could ever imagine about all of the oils available. It is not an opinion piece, but the chemistry involved. Diagrams etc. Go to the link on our links page or Udo Erasmus on oils and fats, Researching the effects of fats and oils on human health http://www.udoerasmus.com./ kind regards, Frank Gettingwell , GiniKM@a... wrote: > In a message dated 12/14/2002 11:30:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, > seveneasypeaces writes: > > > I've never even taken coral calcium. I thought I was helping answer the > > post about the sources of it. I'm new to this list and have spent 30 years > > studying laymen's nutrition for people and pets. Food is always the best > > answer. However, sometimes food sources of specific nutrients are > > beneficial. I can tell you that flax oil is rancid and/or goes rancid in > > the body because of its multiple bonds. I've been doing a lot of research > > on coconut oil. But I'm not sure if I'm allowed to discuss it. > > Nancy > > Nancy, I too found your comment regarding flaxseed oil to be of interest. As > many of us have, I have read a lot about the value of flax oil, so it is with > trepidation that I report anything negative about it. > > For the past 6 years, I have been very interested in and involved in > nutritional treatments for those who have Down syndrome, specifically the use > of targeted nutritional intervention (TNI) for those with DS. About 5 years > ago, it was recommended that, as part of a TNI protocol, flax oil be taken as > a source of EFA's. However, as (usually) mothers reported more and more > often that the flax oil seemed to become rancid in a very short period of > time (short meaning within a week of opening the bottle), the recommendation > was changed from using flax oil (and that part of the protocol continues to > be changed, but that is a totally different topic!). > > Now, this is the part that I hesitate to report, mostly because people want > to believe what they want to believe and also because the following is not in > any way a bonifide scientific experiment. So take it as you will. > > One of the scientific team who has worked on the TNI protocol from the > beginning is David H. Swenson, Ph.D., H.H. Dow Professor of Chemistry > (Saginaw MI). When parents from all different regions of the country (US) > began reporting problems with the flax oil, Dr. Swenson and one (or more?) of > his graduate students did their own look-see at flax oil and how quickly it > would become rancid. He purchased flax oil from various sources. It has > been quite a number of years since this was done, but I have it in my head > that he got somewhere between 12 and 15 bottles. And yes, dates on the > bottles were always checked, indicating that the flax oil " should " have been > good. Sometimes the flax oil (sealed of course) would be in the store > refrigerated and sometimes not. He tested the oil upon opening it and then > at various intervals after that, keeping it refrigerated and then also in the > freezer. The news was not good. > > In some cases, the flax oil was already rancid when opened, even though the > product expiration date was not near. In all other cases, the flax oil > stayed useable for a very short period of time, not going beyond a few days. > Freezing it made no difference. > > This was one scientist's findings in, what was then, an impromptu search for > finding answers to a specific issue (finding a good source of EFA's for kids > with DS). But, the man has a Ph.D. in chemistry and he knows how to test the > oil, so..... And, he had no ax to grind one way or another on the use of > flax oil. > > As I said earlier, take this as you will. It is not meant as being > inflammatory in the least and I am not trying to ignite a debate on the > usefulness of flax oil - not to be confused with flaxSEED which, as far as I > know, there is NO problem with rapid rancidity. > > respectfully, > Gini > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 Dear Group, I will pull out some of my books and some research from my computer if a few days and try and post some stuff about oils/fats. I cannot emphasize enough if anyone really wants to know about oils (or any other health or nutrition issue) they are going to have to read. There is so much bull on the web and the popular media (TV, newspapers. etc) that you will never get to the truth. The purpose of flax oil is whether or not it will spoil, or if some manufacturor sells rancid oil. To focus on that is like someone saying " I don't like fresh foods because they spoil " to tout refined foods parts as a good health option because some of them have a shelf life that would last to the next ice age. The central question to all oils is what are the nutritional effects to human health and where can I get hard factual data that is fairly complete and true. The reason that I mentioned Udo Urasmus is that this is the guy that pioneered most of the research done in dietary oils in the last 20 years. The book that I mentioned is about the only one available with this type of information available other than scientific journals. To use oils in your daily life, you should understand that from the point of view to maintain health and have a balance of n-3s and n-6s and to be very carefull to get sufficient amounts of essential fatty acids. To use theraputically, they are even much more important, and so your understanding of them is much more crucial. This I cannot emphasize enough. The essential fatty acids are 100%, absolutely, undeniably, necessary for life and health. Without them you get sick or die. The main item that the coconut people gloss over and obscure, in their bid to sell you some of their oil, is that it has almost Zero (00000000), that is Zero essential fatty acids in it. But at the same time they are touting it as a health panacea. And at the mention of any other oil they have a million reasons why, to tell you how bad every other oil but coconut is bad for you. What a bunch of BS. Of course it sells the oil though and that is the whole point to the faldorall. This is the BS that I finally get tired of. I do think it has uses, but I think that they are limited due to NOT having any essential fatty acids. In nutrition " essential " means essential to live. it does not mean, I prefer, I like, my opinion is, etc., it means without it you get sick and die. In the early days of this group, they came here with their standard BS, and no matter what subject came up on the board, unsuprisingly every answer was coconut oil, and only thier brand. Imagine that. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what was going on. I have subsequently watched them do that to most of the nutritional groups out there. (they aren't the only one, there is so much BS in the alternative health field it is almost getting almost as bad as Big Pharma) The book that I mentioned by Udo Erasmus covers all of the oils commonly used in the diets around the world. Hemp, yak butter, and some little known others included. The use of flax oil is used by some to rebalance the n-3s from years of overabundance of n-6s. If it doesn't agree with you then don't take it. If it doesn't agree with you then don't take it. There are others to use for that purpose. A lot of people use flax oil to combat cancer and that is a totally different thing. Fats play a major role in cancer. Flax oil also is a medium rich source of cyanide molecules locked with a sugar molecule that is beneficial to health and helps to kill cancer cells. Before anyone goes crazy because i said it is good to eat cyanide, I am not talking about pure cyanide here. I am talking about a cyanide moleacule bonded with a sugar molecule that is present in 1200 plants, and a lot of them are used in the normal diet of animals and man. In this natural form of cyanide it is not only harmless, but beneficial (actually essential) to health. Without it you would not have vitamin B-12. which is cyanocobalamin or B-12. Cyanide is part of of the make up of B-12. Of course if you listen to the coconuts, they will tell you that flax is poison because of it. If that were true then B-12 would not only not be necessary for life, but would be toxic and kill you. Of course about 65% of what they say is in the same vein. It isn't the truth, but they take the truth and twist it till it sure isn't the truth any longer. Anyway, fats and oils are a necessary part of health. If you are going to live and want health you better read the stuff about them yourselves and learn and then no one can tell you something part true , half true, or outright lie. Don't believe me, or the boys at the coconuts, or anyone else. Find out for yourselves. Read. Quit getting your information out of commercial advertising. regards, Frank Gettingwell , " califpacific <califpacific> " <califpacific> wrote: > Dear Jenny, > > If you have a real interest in oils, I suggest that you read Udo > Erasmus' book, " Fats That Heal And Fats That Kill. " . > > If you read it you will know more than you could ever imagine about > all of the oils available. > > It is not an opinion piece, but the chemistry involved. Diagrams etc. > > Go to the link on our links page or > Udo Erasmus on oils and fats, > Researching the effects of fats and oils on human health > http://www.udoerasmus.com./ > > kind regards, > > Frank > > > > > Nancy, I too found your comment regarding flaxseed oil to be of > interest. As > > many of us have, I have read a lot about the value of flax oil, so > it is with > > trepidation that I report anything negative about it. > > > > For the past 6 years, I have been very interested in and involved > in > > nutritional treatments for those who have Down syndrome, > specifically the use > > of targeted nutritional intervention (TNI) for those with DS. > About 5 years > > ago, it was recommended that, as part of a TNI protocol, flax oil > be taken as > > a source of EFA's. However, as (usually) mothers reported more and > more > > often that the flax oil seemed to become rancid in a very short > period of > > time (short meaning within a week of opening the bottle), the > recommendation > > was changed from using flax oil (and that part of the protocol > continues to > > be changed, but that is a totally different topic!). > > > > Now, this is the part that I hesitate to report, mostly because > people want > > to believe what they want to believe and also because the following > is not in > > any way a bonifide scientific experiment. So take it as you will. > > > > One of the scientific team who has worked on the TNI protocol from > the > > beginning is David H. Swenson, Ph.D., H.H. Dow Professor of > Chemistry > > (Saginaw MI). When parents from all different regions of the > country (US) > > began reporting problems with the flax oil, Dr. Swenson and one (or > more?) of > > his graduate students did their own look-see at flax oil and how > quickly it > > would become rancid. He purchased flax oil from various sources. > It has > > been quite a number of years since this was done, but I have it in > my head > > that he got somewhere between 12 and 15 bottles. And yes, dates on > the > > bottles were always checked, indicating that the flax oil " should " > have been > > good. Sometimes the flax oil (sealed of course) would be in the > store > > refrigerated and sometimes not. He tested the oil upon opening it > and then > > at various intervals after that, keeping it refrigerated and then > also in the > > freezer. The news was not good. > > > > In some cases, the flax oil was already rancid when opened, even > though the > > product expiration date was not near. In all other cases, the flax > oil > > stayed useable for a very short period of time, not going beyond a > few days. > > Freezing it made no difference. > > > > This was one scientist's findings in, what was then, an impromptu > search for > > finding answers to a specific issue (finding a good source of EFA's > for kids > > with DS). But, the man has a Ph.D. in chemistry and he knows how > to test the > > oil, so..... And, he had no ax to grind one way or another on the > use of > > flax oil. > > > > As I said earlier, take this as you will. It is not meant as being > > inflammatory in the least and I am not trying to ignite a debate on > the > > usefulness of flax oil - not to be confused with flaxSEED which, as > far as I > > know, there is NO problem with rapid rancidity. > > > > respectfully, > > Gini > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I have no data. Zeb - Esther herbal remedies Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:40 AM Herbal Remedies - oils Could someone please tell me if it is possible for a complete beginner to get the oils from plants and things like cloves? How would I go about doing it.Many thanks for any answers.EstherFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hi to all, What should we use instead of vegetable oil.Butter? Thanks Nil - Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger Cc: Monday, July 19, 2004 6:56 PM Re: Tryptophan, Niacin Protect Against Alzheimer's At 1:27 +0000 19-07-2004, Laura Cooper wrote: >Fascinating! My grandmother died in her 91st year. She didn't have >Alzheimer's, and she did smoke. She did have macular degeneration. > >What's the latest on preventing macular degeneration? Here is a piece I recently came across on macular degeneration: Source: Macular Degeneration Foundation - Australia http://www.mdfoundation.com.au/ Dr Beaumont says he doesn't envisage vegetable oil being removed from all foods, but says there should be a consumer health warning. " I think we have to have a warning on the packages similar to a warning of a cigarette package: 'vegetable oil can lead to macular degeneration', " he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 , " Nymphaea " <ng2113@s...> wrote: > Hi to all, > > What should we use instead of vegetable oil.Butter? Thanks Nil Dear Nil, You need to go here to our file section and read about oils. http://health. directory Fats and Oils - Cholesterol A historical study of oils, heart disease and cancer in the modern diet. directory Liver Liver Related Information directory Psychiatry - Mental Health Frank > > - > > Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger > > Cc: > Monday, July 19, 2004 6:56 PM > Re: Tryptophan, Niacin Protect Against Alzheimer's > > > At 1:27 +0000 19-07-2004, Laura Cooper wrote: > >Fascinating! My grandmother died in her 91st year. She didn't have > >Alzheimer's, and she did smoke. She did have macular degeneration. > > > >What's the latest on preventing macular degeneration? > > > Here is a piece I recently came across on macular degeneration: > > Source: Macular Degeneration Foundation - Australia > > http://www.mdfoundation.com.au/ > > > Dr Beaumont says he doesn't envisage vegetable oil being removed from > all foods, but says there should be a consumer health warning. > > " I think we have to have a warning on the packages similar to a > warning of a cigarette package: 'vegetable oil can lead to macular > degeneration', " he said. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 I do not think it is correct to label all vegetable oils " bad " . Organic olive oil, coconut oil, grapesseed oil, and I'm sure there are others, have been proven to be quite healthy for you. I think it's those oils that have been re-proccessed by industry and are hydrogenated and have trans-fats in them that are the real baddies. http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm Harry - " Nymphaea " <ng2113 Monday, July 19, 2004 5:16 PM Re: Re: Oils > Hi to all, > > What should we use instead of vegetable oil.Butter? Thanks Nil > > - > > Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger > > Cc: > Monday, July 19, 2004 6:56 PM > Re: Tryptophan, Niacin Protect Against Alzheimer's > > > At 1:27 +0000 19-07-2004, Laura Cooper wrote: > >Fascinating! My grandmother died in her 91st year. She didn't have > >Alzheimer's, and she did smoke. She did have macular degeneration. > > > >What's the latest on preventing macular degeneration? > > > Here is a piece I recently came across on macular degeneration: > > Source: Macular Degeneration Foundation - Australia > > http://www.mdfoundation.com.au/ > > > Dr Beaumont says he doesn't envisage vegetable oil being removed from > all foods, but says there should be a consumer health warning. > > " I think we have to have a warning on the packages similar to a > warning of a cigarette package: 'vegetable oil can lead to macular > degeneration', " he said. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Weston A. Price said butter is ok http://www.westonaprice.org/archive/archive_weston.html and coconut oil seems to be much better than the cheap vegetable oils used for margaring and for cooking normally. http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_health.htm Sepp At 0:16 +0300 20-07-2004, Nymphaea wrote: >Hi to all, > >What should we use instead of vegetable oil.Butter? Thanks Nil -- The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition. Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger Personal home page on physics,energy technology, social and economic issues: http://www.hasslberger.com Health Supreme: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp Antiprohibition and products made from cannabis as a raw material: http://www.unsaccodicanapa.com Communication Agents: http://www.communicationagents.com/ La Leva di Archimede - freedom of choice main site: http://www.laleva.cc news: http://www.laleva.org Robin Good - " Understanding comes from exploration " http://www.masternewmedia.org Trash Your Television! http://www.tvturnoff.org/ Not satisfied with news from the tube and other controlled media? Search the net! There are literally thousands of alternative sources out there. Start with the following links. (But there are many more sites with good, timely information.) http://www.whatreallyhappened.com http://www.joevialls.co.uk/ http://www.padrak.com/alt/911DD.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 , " Nymphaea " <ng2113@s...> wrote: > Hi to all, > > What should we use instead of vegetable oil.Butter? Thanks Nil > Yes! Olive oil is good, too, when not industrially-processed. So is coconut oil. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 We've been using mashed avacado in place of butter for a lot of dishes. We like it. Leslye Morrow 7/20/04 9:52:35 AM, " Laura Cooper " <toyotaokiec wrote: > , " Nymphaea " ><ng2113@s...> wrote: >> Hi to all, >> >> What should we use instead of vegetable oil.Butter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Does it make a difference if they are opened or not, how long they last? Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Hi Sandra, The oxygen in the air is what causes the oils to oxidize (which is what makes a carrier go rancid and EO's to break down chemically). Any time you have an oil that is sealed and kept with as little air in the bottle as possible the better it is. Once you've opened a bottle of oil it is exposed to more air and thus it oxidizes faster. Closing the cap as soon as possible after each use of your oils is a good idea. Also keeping the oils in bottles with as little head space as possible helps too. If you have one of those vacuum sealers that works with bottles, that is great! Some of us EO suppliers keep our EO's under a blanket of nitrogen gas to keep them from oxidizing. Refrigerating your carrier oils and certain EO's helps prolong their life span too (like citrus oils, and the blue colored oils - i.e. German Chamomile, Yarrow, etc ...). Anti-oxidants such as Vitamin E can be added to carrier oils too. Some even choose to add it to their essential oils. *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > Sandra [san6] > > Does it make a difference if they are opened or not, how long > they last? Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Thanks for explaining that Christine. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 At 09:30 AM 2/10/2006, you wrote: >Butch sells Essential Oils, I have bought a lot from him especially Oregano. Don't forget our listmom, Chris, has exquisite, tested oils and a lot more in the way of toiletry basics at http://alittleolfactory.com Her co-ops are fabulous, too! the 2005 rose otto she got us is beautiful (via Butch's Turkish connections ;-) Chris tells me she's going to start carrying more perfume basics, like absolutes and concretes and such. Can't wait! http://naturalperfumery.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume Join to study natural perfumery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Butch, I must agree. The Lemon Tea Tree is excellent. John , kerley983 wrote: > > Butch oh my gosh the Lemon Tea Tree oil smells so darn good. This is the > first time I have ever seen the Fractionated Coconut oil. It is totally > liquid??? > > I saw a picture of your baby, he looks like you. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 I've already heard too much from individuals who could not become healthy until canola was eliminated. There is no canola plant. It is a registered name of Canadian Oil Company. That Corporation makes canola, a genetically modified rapeseed oil. Dr. Goebel ______________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 In a message dated 6/3/2007 6:40:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, writes: Speaking of oils, what do you know about oil pulling? I am juststarting to learn about it and find it fascinating. Tony, because of the gum disease I picked up from my student years and traveling around the world after that, I've been doing EVERYTHING to save my teeth. One of my readers just sent me info on it, and I let Google translate the stuff from Germany. I have a dental apt tomorrow, after which I'l be trying it. I'll publish my results this winter. DavidSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 You may be right, Jon Barron and Snopes.com notwithstanding. I have read that cold pressed canola is OK for salads and such. I personally stay away from it though - and use olive oil mostly. If I could afford it and find it more easily, coconut would be my favorite and date palm second. Speaking of oils, what do you know about oil pulling? I am just starting to learn about it and find it fascinating. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > I've already heard too much from individuals who could not become > healthy until canola was eliminated. There is no canola plant. It is > a registered name of Canadian Oil Company. That Corporation makes > canola, a genetically modified rapeseed oil. > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile./mail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 In a message dated 6/3/2007 1:43:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, goebelchx writes: Oil pulling? Do you mean cold pressing the oil? Are you speaking ofsomething else?Dr. Goebel http://oilpulling.com:80/index.htm There are a few more sites, but they are in German and have to be (badly) translated. DavidSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 synchronicity! I'm in the process of reading " Fats the heal, fats the=at kill " by Udo Erasmus oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > I am not sure that the bad press about Canola has not been overblown. > Jon Barron feels it has gotten a bad rap and that first press cold > pressed Canola is ok (but that is not what you find at the grocers). > > Here is an article you might like, from Alive.com: > > Oils in the Kitchen > by author Simone Gabbay, RNCP > > " What oil can I use in salad dressings? " asked a young mother as we > discussed her family's diet. " Is it true that some oils are toxic? " > This mom's concerns were not unjustified: many popular oils are unfit > for human consumption. > > Reject Refined > > Many of the clean-looking processed vegetable oils on supermarket > shelves are solvent extracted, highly refined, bleached, and > deodorized. These oils are chemically unstable - they are > polyunsaturated, which makes them vulnerable to molecular damage and > rancidity. The deterioration process, initiated during commercial oil > extraction, produces harmful trans fatty acids and other toxic compounds. > > Cool Salad Oils > > Excellent alternatives to commercially processed oils are available in > health food stores. Mechanically extracted, unrefined vegetable oils > contribute vitamin E and essential fatty acids (EFAs) to the diet. > EFAs play an important role in many metabolic processes and are often > deficient in the modern diet. > > Among the best sources of EFAs are the oils from the seeds of flax, > safflower, sunflower, pumpkin, and sesame. These can be used in salad > dressings, added to foods after cooking, or taken therapeutically as a > supplement. They should be kept refrigerated and should be used within > two months of opening. Unrefined flax, safflower, and sunflower seed > oils have a low smoke point (the temperature at which the oil begins > to burn) and should never be used in cooking, baking, or frying. > Sesame seed oil has a higher smoke point and may be used to sauté and > stir-fry foods. > > Heating it Up > > Unrefined olive oil (look for " extra virgin " on the label) makes a > great base for salad dressings and is also safe for use in cooking. > Chemically classified as monounsaturated, olive oil is less prone to > deterioration than polyunsaturated oils and, thus, is more heat > tolerant. In recent years, olive oil has been the focus of several > research studies prompted by the low incidence of cardiovascular > disease in southern Mediterranean regions, where consumption of olive > oil is high. > > Another monounsaturated oil safe for heating is macadamia nut oil. Its > full-flavoured, nutty taste and excellent coating properties make it a > gourmet cook's best-kept secret. Macadamia nut oil is ideal for > sautéing or stir-frying. Avocado oil also has a high smoke point, as > does almond oil, which is excellent for baking. > > Exotic Tropical Oils > > Saturated fats and oils are chemically stable, which is why butter is > a safe cooking fat. The tropical oils of palm, palm kernel, and > coconut, available in health food stores, are also high in stable > saturates and are excellent cooking oils. > > Even the most stable of oils should never be used to fry or deep-fry > foods. At extreme temperatures, oils will smoke and burn, and toxic > compounds will form in foods. If you cook with oil, sautéing and > stir-frying are gentler, safer methods. > > Simone Gabbay, RNCP, is a registered nutritionist, writer, and editor > in Toronto. She is the author of Nourishing the Body Temple (A.R.E > Press, 1999) and Visionary Medicine: Real Hope for Total Healing > (A.R.E. Press, 2003). > > Source: alive #262, August 2004 > > > > > oleander soup , May <luellamay129@> wrote: > > > > Thank you for this valuable information. Goodness, the reports on > red meat are driving me crazy. I knew Canola Oil was deadly. The > only oil I use is Olive Oil and also flaxseed. > > > > The inflammatory index sounds wonderful. > > > > > > > > May > > http://thecorner4women.com > > " Empowering Women Throughout the World " > > http://dipetanesoutheast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> > > oleander soup > > Saturday, June 2, 2007 12:37:14 PM > > Re: Some good diet ideas > > > > Red meat gets too much of a bad rap. I base my diet more on Kosher > > dictates. I stopped eating shell fish and pork. Then I found out from > > Sam Rogers at the San Antonio Wellness Institue that there is an > > inflammatory index for foods. Those in the Bible have an index of 100 > > or less. Pork is at 800. Turkey 400. Chicken 200-400. Shellfish > > over 1600. The kicker: Canola (genetically modified rapeseed oil) > > 100,000 on the inflammatory index. I'll stick w/ red meat and fish > > with fins and scales, thank you. > > > > The Romans preserved in the aftermath of the Vesuvius eruption which > > destroyed Pompeii and Herculaneum, showed people with no cavaties in > > the teeth. It is well know their fruit, cheese, and mutton consumption > > was high. The Roman army ran on its bread. However, its bread was > > nothing like any of the bread we have today. There was no finely > > ground (whole wheat or barley) flour; it was all very rough cut stone > > ground wheat and barley. We would not call it flour, but instead > > probably call it " craked wheat " . No dental or obesity problems from > > this food! > > > > So, I also cut out all bakery goods, potatoes, and rice (yes, even > > brown). My diet is mainy meats, fish, beans, squashes, raw greens, and > > some fresh whole fruit. I also eat a 3/4 " length from a bar of butter > > on my beans. I lost 30 pounds in 4 months on this diet, with no > > exercise change. > > > > No matter what new good information you find, always keep > > investigating. Better information regularly becomes available. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today! http://surveylink. / gmrs/_ panel_invite. asp? a=7 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Oil pulling? Do you mean cold pressing the oil? Are you speaking of something else? Dr. Goebel ______________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Hi ? (dunno your name Here is a link to some good homemade house cleaner recipes. http://natural-products.suite101.com/article.cfm/natural_cleaners I personally add a few drops of EO to my cleaning water and a few drops of lemon to my vinegar window cleaner. As for oil in the dryer .. one drop of EO on a dryer sheet (and that is all you need - any more is like killing an ant with a sledgehammer) won't cause a fire, but yes a dryer full of oily materials (especially volatile oils) is dangerous. *Smile* Chris (list mom) Organic Bulgarian Rose Hydrosols ON SALE - YOUR CHANCE IN 2008 TO SAVE! http://www.alittleolfactory.com , d5enzo wrote: > > I found so much about oils that I just can't get enough. > > Can someone tell me what they use to make cleaners with theirs? > > I put a teeny tiny bit in my fabric softener ball and yum! It smells so > nice. (Lavendar for my bed spread).....I just have to be careful that I don't > start a fire in the dryer, I know someone who owned a massage place that burnt > down from drying towels with oil on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Advertising and dieticians have made us believe that Soy Beans Oil and Rape Seed oil (also called Canola Oil) are heart and otherwise healthy. I did not know that there is no such natural product called Canola Oil. It is chemically extracted from rape seed oil. Rape seed oil is the lubricant used in continuous casting of molten steel. It is unfit for human consumption. I am reproducing below an extract on these oils: - "Canola oil comes from the rape seed, which is part of the mustard family of plants. Rape is the most toxic of all food-oil plants. Like soy, rape is a weed. Insects will not eat it; it is deadly poisonous! The oil from the rape seed is a hundred times more toxic than soy oil."John Thomas more Welcome to... Toxicity of Canola Oil and Soy ShirleysWellnessCafe.com (aka: MyWellnessHouse.com) -A free educational web site on the internet since 1996 This site is being continuously updated so check in often to see what's new ---Last update 8/15/2008 http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/conola.html Love Rajinder Sandhir Looks that it is best to stick to pure ghee and unclarified or white butter. Use less of them. Mustard oil (Kohlu) is equally good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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