Defensive Driving skills JUST MAKE A PERSON scared, timid & a shitty driver!

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First of all group, I will immediately point out that Martha is

working from a point of FEAR, which is a REACTIVE thought process.

 

She is more concerned about the MISTAKES that SHE can make, and NOT

the GOOD WORKS that she can do.

 

She is so concerned about the MISTAKES OTHERS CAN MAKE, that she

does NOT want others to learn BECAUSE they might now get it right.

 

She is IMPOSING HER " RULES " on other people's lives, which is NOT a

Huna Technology, but a technology used by Communists!...

 

....used by DICTATORS!

 

....used by HITLER'S!

 

And, more sickening yet, she is doing it all under the discuise

of, " I'm attempting to help you not hurt yourself " .

 

Her magic phrase is, " If I could stop them from learning, how would

I? "

 

Not a very productive point-of-view to teach anything.

 

Now again, " why is Martha doing it? "

 

Simple answer, BECAUSE of FEAR.

 

Because of LACK OF COMPETENCY in what she does, and what

she " thinks " (an opinion NOT based on any verification process) she

does.

 

If one is COMPETANT...

 

....IF one has a VERIFICATION PROCESS...

 

....then CONFIDENCE automatically follows, if one is NOT brain dead

and can calibrate EXTERNALLY and internally from the 3 positions!

 

More details will be interspersed throughout the following.

 

> --- martha howard <marthahhoward@h...> wrote:

 

> Dear Vince, My concern in commenting on the qigong

> practice was this:

 

Note that Martha only HAD CONCERNS and did NOT have any solutions?

 

Note that Martha did NOT come to me so that I could SET HER STRAIGHT

from MY KNOWLEDGE BASE, which is actually MUCH MUCH BROADER THAN her

20 years...

 

....and even if we did not agree, at least I could have shared with

her information that she DOES NOT YET HAVE, and will probably NEVER

get.

 

Why? Because she is happy in her fear.

 

> in 20 years of practicing and teaching qigong,

 

Well, I know a lot of people that profess to 20 years of experience,

but they have been teaching the SAME 6 MONTHS worth of training for

20 years!

 

It's still ONLY 6 MONTHS worth of material!

 

They have NOT been STUDYING nor LEARNING for 20 years, but they HAVE

BEEN disciples of some guru and have been spouting the guru's gunk

WITHOUT ANY FORM OF VERIFICATION!

 

Age in an art does NOT mean SQUAT if the learning does not continue,

and if the learning does not have a verification process.

 

By the way, I've been in martials arts since 1950.

 

That is 56 years in the arts.

 

I've been teaching Chi Kung since 1973. That means I've been

teaching Chi Kung for 33 years!

 

BUT...

 

....I did NOT have a verification process for any of the Chi Kung

skills UNTIL I met and studied with DONNA EDEN.

 

I have been training with Donna for more than 8 years now. I've gone

to every seminar that she's given whether in here in the states, in

Europe, or in Mexico.

 

I've one of her Trainer's, and I help assist at her seminars. I am

VERY GOOD in the 8 different energies as far as doing them expertly

and in teaching them expertly.

 

Good enough that I've had my own products out on those processes for

7 years...

 

Good enough so that the Huna Trainers have trained in those skills

with me for the last 7 years (all on video tape buckwheat!)...

 

blab, blab, blab (enough of worthless credentials)...

 

I've taken the Chi Kung Trainings and compared them to the Donna

Eden VERIFIED ENERGY SKILLS, and I've found some to be great...and

some to be really CONFUSED!

 

So, I'm NOT saying that my first 25 years of doing and teaching Chi

Kung were wasted, but...

 

....just about!

 

This is NOT an attack on Chi Kung!

 

This is a COMPARISON of what I've learned with Chi Kung and with

Energy Medicine.

 

I have seen people suffer some

> serious physical mental emotional and spiritual

> problems from doing parts of a practice that should

> only be done as a whole,

 

So what?

 

What's your point?

 

Did they really suffer, or are you giving us a factoid?

 

What is your verification that they did suffer?

 

What is your verification of what they suffered from, " if " they did

suffer?

 

Did you know, Martha, that MOST of the FORBIDDEN POINTS in Chi Kung

that womer are NOT supposed to use are there BECAUSE THOSE POINTS

EMPOWER WOMEN and the men did NOT want the women empowered?

 

Onward.

 

One drunk fell off a cliff in Garden of the Gods Colorado, and the

stupid government then declared those wonderous mountains and cliffs

OFF LIMITS for everyone else because of that ONE DRUNK!

 

That is REAL JUNKO NON-LOGIC.

 

Because one person out of 80,000 people a year does something

idiotic, we should ban the rest from the exercise and the beauty of

those slopes?

 

Only in America!

 

You are spreading a FACTOID as a truth, and it just AIN'T SO!

 

It is a sickening rumor control technique to install guilt and fear,

and I DO NOT play that game.

 

> or from doing practices out of a book.

 

So, lets burn all the books, Martha?

 

OR, being the dictator that you are, do YOU choose what ones to keep

and which ones to ban?

 

IF a VERIFICATION METHOD is taught, even if it's in a book, the

process of LEARNING THE VERIFICATION METHOD is up to the READER OF

THE BOOK, not to the gestapo, not to Martha, not to the govenment,

not to the church!

 

The VERIFICATION METHOD must always be included and IS INCLUDED if

the trainer is competant.

 

FEAR is not a tool to be used AS " THE ONLY " TOOL of validation.

 

Sorry, skills are NOT acquired that way.

 

How about some VALID verification skills?

 

" Defensive driving skills " JUST MAKE A PERSON SCARED, TIMID AND A

SHITTY DRIVER.

 

If you want to learn how to drive good, FEAR should NOT be installed.

 

So, group?

 

What should be installed instead?

 

>These were serious enough to put people in the hospital.

 

Well shit, I've been putting people in the hospital for 56 years.

That's not a very good criteria of workability is it?

 

And, what I've taught has kept thousands and thousands of people out

of the hospitals.

 

And, the energy secrets and skills I've taught have really helped

all THAT DO THE DAMN DRILLS!

 

 

Defensive Driving skills JUST MAKE A PERSON SCARED, timid & a Shitty

Driver!