Remote Viewing

[Guest guest]

My impressions when she first was reported in the news as missing is that she is

dead. It is possible that they remote viewed her on the beach. But she is not

in the physical body.

 

Ok, and I already RV'd it anyways, although without much of the emotional pain

when

I'd RV'd other disappearances.

 

It is a safe " guess " for most people that she was raped and murdered.

But it was also a safe " guess " for Elizabeth Smart, and my RV of her was

that she was alive, which she was.

 

So I use the KINESTHETIC Remote Viewing method that you taught us. And instead

of energy testing, I use a pendulum.

 

I calibrate my name is Jim; my name is Sue and some other calibrations.

 

Then I step into Natalie Holloway.

 

I mentally project Natalie Holloway right now, and it was a very gross picture,

AND I SENSED it was/is correct, but to preclude any chance of " leading "

myself (ie stepping into a badly decomposed body presupposes death, which some

might

say fucks up the test), I step into a mental picture of her while she's alive.

I make a double of her from one of the videos they've shown in the news.

 

I also use timeline shifts for reference points, just like you showed us to do

with

the energy testing or pendulum methods of Remote Viewing.

 

" My name is Natalie Holloway. " Strong.

 

" Two years ago, I am alive. " Strong.

 

" I am alive and in the body right now. " Weak.

 

" I was alive and in the body when I went to Aruba. " Strong.

 

" I was murdered in Aruba. " Strong.

 

" I was raped before I was murdered. " Strong.

 

( " I was raped after I was murdered " also tested strong.)

 

(Strong = " yes " on pendulum. Weak = " no " on pendulum.)

 

Perhaps Sara saw her on the beach, " hanging out in the sun, " doing what

she like(d) to do while in the body. In some cases it is also possible that the

dead don't know they're dead.

 

This leads me to something interesting. We step into the ENERGY FIELD for

Remote

Viewing with the pendulum or energy testing. The energies NEVER lie. People do

screw up energy tests (me included). However, the energies themselves never

lie.

 

So is it possible to have a " contradiction " between the person's SUBJECTIVE

MIND and their energy field? Here's what I mean by that: Sometimes the dead

don't

know they are dead yet, and they go on with their habit field or things they are

attracted to, and are frustrated because they don't know they're dead.

 

Yet the energy field should show dead if the person is dead. Even if you are

projecting

the astral or mental body, for RV purposes, that / those bodies would be

different

without the etheric. Correct? Or no?

 

So if we find someone who is lost and confused and don't know they are dead,

would

their ENERGY FIELD, when used for RV, show them as dead? Or would it show what

the person's subjective mind believed them to be?

 

Is it possible for them to be different? In other words, if you bring up

Natalie's

SUBJECTIVE MIND on the mental video screen, " IF " she don't know she's

dead (and in this case I think she does know), would she talk to you on the

subjective

level as if she were still alive?

 

And if then you instead Remote Viewed her ENERGY FIELD, would it show something

DIFFERENT than you would get by bringing her up on the mental screen to " talk "

to the subjective mind?

 

I'm not just talking out my ass, either. I'm real interested in the answer to

that.

Especially since those who die suddenly often times do NOT know they are dead

right

away and need help moving on.

 

I also respect the RV from Kyle and Sara and also the guts to post it in public.

I wonder if maybe Sara RV'd the spirit of Natalie who was off on a beach having

fun? IF that's the case, then her RV is even better than many other people's RV

BECAUSE she would have actually contacted the soul AFTER it left the body and

would

have knowledge of what it was doing now, after leaving the body.

 

I can't agree with the statement that Natalie is alive in the physical body. I

believe she has been dead for quite some time.

 

I wonder if my questions about RV of the subjective entity vs. RV of their

energy

field makes any sense, though? Are they valid questions? Or does " energy

field " also presuppose the communication with the subjective mind? I'm not

100% sure on that. I think MAYBE when we step into the energy field to RV we

flip

back and forth between the two, depending on what information we are segment

intending.

 

In other words, I can use the energy field to get answers, and then I can also

" talk "

to the person and get back answers, just like I can change perceptual positions

or other types of segment intendings while Remote Viewing.

 

Thanks, Doc.

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

Kyle Higgins <ky_higgins

Dec 13, 2005 1:46 AM

mindmastery-essentialskills

Re: [mindmastery-essentialskills] Remote Viewing

 

On Wednesday of the week before last Sara And i were remote viewing. And i told

her that on the count of three she would see in front of her the Girl that got

lost in Aruba, Hollaway i think is her last name. And i counted to three and

snaped my fingers.

And she saw her....

Lying on a beach....ALIVE!!

And i was like thats odd, everyone seems to think she is dead.

So i asked sara to discribe what she sees around hollaway?

what do you hear?

what do you feel?

and then I told her to do the " shapeshifting " technique that doc taught us at

the Becoming your own Kahuna seminar. (the shapeshifting technique actually

allows you to think the thoughts and adopt the phisiologies of the person or

thing you shift into).

And so sara became Holloway. And i asked her questions about why she does not

let her parents know or athorities know she is alive?

and what is she doing right now?

what she sees around her?

and what does she hear at the moment?

what does she feel?

And what she told me was amazing!

And that friday i was walking through a safeway to pick up some things and

right on the cover of a magazing

 

MISSNIG ARUBA GIRL ALIVE, CALLS MOM!

 

And it made me and sara both smile

I wonder if it was something i said...? haha

 

So yes Remote viewing can be used to find missing animals and people too.

 

And a great remote viewing training program, is the one Dennis Higgins and Dr.

Jon La Tourrette developed. I think doc has it for sale on his website its

really good.

 

Kyle Higgins

Red Belt under Dr. La Tourrette

[Guest guest]

Excuse me for asking more questions...

 

When I say that a person who dies suddenly or unexpectedly gets confused and

doesn't

know where to go...

 

Well, the energy field will SHOW death, if it is close at hand, even if the

person

is not consciously aware of it.

 

And someone might think that the subjective mind would be aware, so that when it

is released from the body, it immediately " knows " .

 

However, if it has been giving strong emotional suggestions by the person's

habit

fields or conscious mind, then it would tend to focus in on the stronger

suggestion

(especially a strong habit field). So then death becomes a sudden confusion to

them, and they are still stuck in the beliefs and thoughts and habits they were

in prior to death.

 

And it then takes time for those very strong suggestions and habits to disipate

enough for the subjective mind to have any awareness beyond those strong habit

fields.

(which includes knowledge of being dead or alive, which is why often times those

who are ALIVE are able, while asleep, to better help those who passed on than

those

who have already been gone awhile -- the newly dead are still more aware of

those

on the physical plane than they are on the higher planes (ie mental and

spiritual).

 

Is this correct?

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

 

 

 

" James R. Knippenberg " <erommel

Dec 13, 2005 9:09 PM

mindmastery-essentialskills ,

 

Re: Remote Viewing

[Guest guest]

Jim, Kyle,

 

Great post by both! I know that Jim has hit some key things that many

people overlook... I'm sure we all picked up some special things to

VALIDATE for ourselves... when in time, spiritual body, physical body...

 

Gee, was her mental state affected by a self induced chemical

imbalance... or did someone make the decision to move the induced

state without here knowledge...

 

Of course, 'the plan' did not go as expected... did it?

 

Greg R.

P.S. I sure wouldn't print out Jim's and Kyle's post and see what they

DID, how about you?

 

 

, " James R.

Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

>

>

> My impressions when she first was reported in the news as missing is

that she is

> dead. It is possible that they remote viewed her on the beach. But

she is not

> in the physical body.

>

> Ok, and I already RV'd it anyways, although without much of the

emotional pain when

> I'd RV'd other disappearances.

>

> It is a safe " guess " for most people that she was raped and murdered.

> But it was also a safe " guess " for Elizabeth Smart, and my RV of her was

> that she was alive, which she was.

>

> So I use the KINESTHETIC Remote Viewing method that you taught us.

And instead

> of energy testing, I use a pendulum.

>

> I calibrate my name is Jim; my name is Sue and some other calibrations.

>

> Then I step into Natalie Holloway.

>

> I mentally project Natalie Holloway right now, and it was a very

gross picture,

> AND I SENSED it was/is correct, but to preclude any chance of " leading "

> myself (ie stepping into a badly decomposed body presupposes death,

which some might

> say fucks up the test), I step into a mental picture of her while

she's alive.

> I make a double of her from one of the videos they've shown in the news.

>

> I also use timeline shifts for reference points, just like you

showed us to do with

> the energy testing or pendulum methods of Remote Viewing.

>

> " My name is Natalie Holloway. " Strong.

>

> " Two years ago, I am alive. " Strong.

>

> " I am alive and in the body right now. " Weak.

>

> " I was alive and in the body when I went to Aruba. " Strong.

>

> " I was murdered in Aruba. " Strong.

>

> " I was raped before I was murdered. " Strong.

>

> ( " I was raped after I was murdered " also tested strong.)

>

> (Strong = " yes " on pendulum. Weak = " no " on pendulum.)

>

> Perhaps Sara saw her on the beach, " hanging out in the sun, " doing what

> she like(d) to do while in the body. In some cases it is also

possible that the

> dead don't know they're dead.

>

> This leads me to something interesting. We step into the ENERGY

FIELD for Remote

> Viewing with the pendulum or energy testing. The energies NEVER

lie. People do

> screw up energy tests (me included). However, the energies

themselves never lie.

>

> So is it possible to have a " contradiction " between the person's

SUBJECTIVE

> MIND and their energy field? Here's what I mean by that: Sometimes

the dead don't

> know they are dead yet, and they go on with their habit field or

things they are

> attracted to, and are frustrated because they don't know they're dead.

>

> Yet the energy field should show dead if the person is dead. Even

if you are projecting

> the astral or mental body, for RV purposes, that / those bodies

would be different

> without the etheric. Correct? Or no?

>

> So if we find someone who is lost and confused and don't know they

are dead, would

> their ENERGY FIELD, when used for RV, show them as dead? Or would

it show what

> the person's subjective mind believed them to be?

>

> Is it possible for them to be different? In other words, if you

bring up Natalie's

> SUBJECTIVE MIND on the mental video screen, " IF " she don't know she's

> dead (and in this case I think she does know), would she talk to you

on the subjective

> level as if she were still alive?

>

> And if then you instead Remote Viewed her ENERGY FIELD, would it

show something

> DIFFERENT than you would get by bringing her up on the mental screen

to " talk "

> to the subjective mind?

>

> I'm not just talking out my ass, either. I'm real interested in the

answer to that.

> Especially since those who die suddenly often times do NOT know they

are dead right

> away and need help moving on.

>

> I also respect the RV from Kyle and Sara and also the guts to post

it in public.

> I wonder if maybe Sara RV'd the spirit of Natalie who was off on a

beach having

> fun? IF that's the case, then her RV is even better than many other

people's RV

> BECAUSE she would have actually contacted the soul AFTER it left the

body and would

> have knowledge of what it was doing now, after leaving the body.

>

> I can't agree with the statement that Natalie is alive in the

physical body. I

> believe she has been dead for quite some time.

>

> I wonder if my questions about RV of the subjective entity vs. RV of

their energy

> field makes any sense, though? Are they valid questions? Or does

" energy

> field " also presuppose the communication with the subjective mind?

I'm not

> 100% sure on that. I think MAYBE when we step into the energy field

to RV we flip

> back and forth between the two, depending on what information we are

segment intending.

>

> In other words, I can use the energy field to get answers, and then

I can also " talk "

> to the person and get back answers, just like I can change

perceptual positions

> or other types of segment intendings while Remote Viewing.

>

> Thanks, Doc.

>

> Jim

>

>

>

>

> Kyle Higgins <ky_higgins>

> Dec 13, 2005 1:46 AM

> mindmastery-essentialskills

> Re: [mindmastery-essentialskills] Remote Viewing

>

> On Wednesday of the week before last Sara And i were remote viewing.

And i told her that on the count of three she would see in front of

her the Girl that got lost in Aruba, Hollaway i think is her last

name. And i counted to three and snaped my fingers.

> And she saw her....

> Lying on a beach....ALIVE!!

> And i was like thats odd, everyone seems to think she is dead.

> So i asked sara to discribe what she sees around hollaway?

> what do you hear?

> what do you feel?

> and then I told her to do the " shapeshifting " technique that doc

taught us at the Becoming your own Kahuna seminar. (the shapeshifting

technique actually allows you to think the thoughts and adopt the

phisiologies of the person or thing you shift into).

> And so sara became Holloway. And i asked her questions about why

she does not let her parents know or athorities know she is alive?

> and what is she doing right now?

> what she sees around her?

> and what does she hear at the moment?

> what does she feel?

> And what she told me was amazing!

> And that friday i was walking through a safeway to pick up some

things and right on the cover of a magazing

>

> MISSNIG ARUBA GIRL ALIVE, CALLS MOM!

>

> And it made me and sara both smile

> I wonder if it was something i said...? haha

>

> So yes Remote viewing can be used to find missing animals and

people too.

>

> And a great remote viewing training program, is the one Dennis

Higgins and Dr. Jon La Tourrette developed. I think doc has it for

sale on his website its really good.

>

> Kyle Higgins

> Red Belt under Dr. La Tourrette

>