Low of cure

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My 2 1/2 year old daughter has been suffering with eczema for almost 7 months. Not bad but persistent. Dry scaly small bumps. The MD has suggested that it would go away (naturally) and suggested various over the counter creams instead of soap when bathing and to keep the skin from drying. Also suggested Hydrocortisone which I finally started using last month. Worked right away to relieve itching and reduce the redness and broken skin from the scratching mostly at night. However the eczema is still present and I do not want to continue its use. I also tried the Zinc and other OTC remedies.

I needled Spleen 10 and Large Intestine 11. Needless to say she objected.

I purchased a Laser Pen 3.5 mW. and was thinking about using it on the following points: Spleen 6 & 10, Large Intestine 11, Bladder 40 (behind the knee) Stomach 36.

Is it OK to Laser the rash itself?

Any ideas or suggestions.

She is intrigued with the light

To Your Health,

Ed Kasper LAc.

edkasper

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I totally agree that cortisone is bad. Yet she has had this condition for 7-8 months and it was getting worse. At first only very minor "dry skin" her scratching would break the skin. Because the skin became broken other creams - like zinc would burn her and she would cry. The cortisone was soothing and need serve to offer the relief the boy needed to regain some of its balance. When I resort to methods such as this I justify it as treating the acute first giving time to focus on the chronic underlying disorder. I agree cortisone will drive it deeper but one has to live the day.

 

geovani [inandor]Monday, March 06, 2000 12:13 AMacupuncture Subject: Re: acupuncture Low of cure"geovani" <inandor

Ed Kasper <edkasper

 

My 2 1/2 year old daughter has been suffering with eczema for almost 7 months. Not bad but persistent. Dry scaly small bumps. The MD has suggested that it would go away (naturally) and suggested various over the counter creams instead of soap when bathing and to keep the skin from drying. Also suggested Hydrocortisone which I finally started using last month. Worked right away to relieve itching and reduce the redness and broken skin from the scratching mostly at night. However the eczema is still present and I do not want to continue its use. I also tried the Zinc and other OTC remedies.

I needled Spleen 10 and Large Intestine 11. Needless to say she objected.

I purchased a Laser Pen 3.5 mW. and was thinking about using it on the following points: Spleen 6 & 10, Large Intestine 11, Bladder 40 (behind the knee) Stomach 36.

Is it OK to Laser the rash itself?

Any ideas or suggestions.

She is intrigued with the light

To Your Health,

Ed Kasper LAc.

edkasper

geovani> Ed, stop Hydrocortisone imediatly!!! It is a very

efective way to push the desiese to the lungs and other more

important organs. Stop it!!!!! The corticoids are realy very

efective, they act very quikly to supress external manifestations!

Traditional western doctors are too short sighted to see this

obvious fact about the corticoids. Every homeopath is familiar

with the nefastuous efects of corticoids. For how long have you

used them? Is the case of you doughter "athopic dermatitis"?

It is caracterised by eruptions near the bends of limbs, behind

elbows, behind knees. Through the hidrocortison into the trash!!!!

 

If the manifestations have already been supressed, we'll have

to find a way to bring them back....

 

My doughter had "athopic dermatitis" - she has none today.

We may talk later. Don't even keep that cortison in some box

- out with it!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enter:

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This is regarding my first post to this forum - which was a question

concerning agravation in acup. The responses where quite variable...

 

" The law of cure: This is one of the Laws of Five-Elements. It is most simply expressed by saying that as the body, mind and spirit return do balance, symptoms tend to re-appear in reverse chronological order, to disapear from above to below, an to leave the body from within to without.....patients commonly report recurrence of earlier symptoms, sometimes even more sever than de first time, but carrying with them a sense of " feeling better inside " "

 

JR Worsley -volume III (...after 51 years of practice...)

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Ed Kasper <edkasper

 

My 2 1/2 year old daughter has been suffering with eczema for almost 7 months. Not bad but persistent. Dry scaly small bumps. The MD has suggested that it would go away (naturally) and suggested various over the counter creams instead of soap when bathing and to keep the skin from drying. Also suggested Hydrocortisone which I finally started using last month. Worked right away to relieve itching and reduce the redness and broken skin from the scratching mostly at night. However the eczema is still present and I do not want to continue its use. I also tried the Zinc and other OTC remedies.

I needled Spleen 10 and Large Intestine 11. Needless to say she objected.

I purchased a Laser Pen 3.5 mW. and was thinking about using it on the following points: Spleen 6 & 10, Large Intestine 11, Bladder 40 (behind the knee) Stomach 36.

Is it OK to Laser the rash itself?

Any ideas or suggestions.

She is intrigued with the light

To Your Health,

Ed Kasper LAc.

edkasper

geovani> Ed, stop Hydrocortisone imediatly!!! It is a very

efective way to push the desiese to the lungs and other more

important organs. Stop it!!!!! The corticoids are realy very

efective, they act very quikly to supress external manifestations!

Traditional western doctors are too short sighted to see this

obvious fact about the corticoids. Every homeopath is familiar

with the nefastuous efects of corticoids. For how long have you

used them? Is the case of you doughter " athopic dermatitis " ?

It is caracterised by eruptions near the bends of limbs, behind

elbows, behind knees. Through the hidrocortison into the trash!!!!

 

If the manifestations have already been supressed, we'll have

to find a way to bring them back....

 

My doughter had " athopic dermatitis " - she has none today.

We may talk later. Don't even keep that cortison in some box

- out with it!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Ed Kasper <edkasper

 

 

My 2 1/2 year old daughter has been suffering with eczema for almost 7

months. Not bad but

persistent. Dry scaly small bumps. The MD has suggested that it would go away

(naturally) and

suggested various over the counter creams instead of soap when bathing and to

keep the skin from

drying. Also suggested Hydrocortisone which I finally started using last month.

Worked right away to

relieve itching and reduce the redness and broken skin from the scratching

mostly at night. However

the eczema is still present and I do not want to continue its use. I also tried

the Zinc and other

OTC remedies.

 

I needled Spleen 10 and Large Intestine 11. Needless to say she objected.

 

I purchased a Laser Pen 3.5 mW. and was thinking about using it on the

following points: Spleen

6 & 10, Large Intestine 11, Bladder 40 (behind the knee) Stomach 36.

 

Is it OK to Laser the rash itself?

 

Any ideas or suggestions.

 

She is intrigued with the light

 

To Your Health,

 

Ed Kasper LAc.

 

edkasper

 

geovani> Ed, stop Hydrocortisone !!! It is a very

efective way to push the desiese to the lungs and other more

important organs. The corticoids are realy very

efective, they act very quikly to supress external manifestations!

Traditional western doctors are too short sighted to see this

obvious fact about the corticoids. Every homeopath is familiar

with the nefastuous efects of corticoids. For how long have you

used them? Is the case of you doughter " athopic dermatitis " ?

It is caracterised by eruptions near the bends of limbs, behind

elbows, behind knees. Through the hidrocortison into the trash!!!!

 

 

My doughter had " athopic dermatitis " - she has none today.

We may talk later.

 

 

Ed Kasper <edkasper

 

 

I totally agree that cortisone is bad. Yet she has had this condition for

7-8 months and it was

getting worse.

 

geovani> In most of the cases it is the way the body manages to

get rid of agressive agents, that otherwise would go to the lungs,

causing things like asthma, bronquitis, and other lung afections

So....the idea is not to keep in mind that usualy skin manifestations

indicate a healthy defense sistem. One may take time into looking

for the real cause, and avoid supression. Try to use moisturing

creams meanwile...

 

At first only very minor " dry skin " her scratching would break the skin. Because

the

skin became broken other creams - like zinc would burn her and she would cry.

The cortisone was

soothing and need serve to offer the relief the boy needed to regain some of its

balance. When I

resort to methods such as this I justify it as treating the acute first giving

time to focus on the

chronic underlying disorder. I agree cortisone will drive it deeper but one has

to live the day.

 

 

geovani> I understand. But even so, I would avoid corticoids,

because of the exaustively proved supressing efects.

If you could send me some information about her I can give

you the name of an homeopathic remedy, that she could take

in one single dose. No harm may result.

 

- Is her complexion fat or thin? Don't give me her

weight, Ed, because I don't havea chart .

 

- location of the eruptions

 

- nature of the eruptions (moisture, dry, itchy etc...)

 

-Is she an active kind of child or more to the " mild " side?

 

regards

 

geovani

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I use a plum blossom needle for kids (aka seven star hammer). I draw a face

over the point, and get them to bash it on the nose (so much for pacifism);

or get them to blow a huge raspberry while the needle goes in, if plum

blossom doesn't seem strong enough treatment. All the kids I've treated have

been fine with this.

 

Amanda

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Muchas gracias por su atención,

Thank you very much for all your attention,

 

Josep Carrion.

 

jcarrionterapeuta

 

-----Mensaje original-----De: geovani [inandor]Enviado el: domingo, 05 de marzo de 2000 20:03Para: acupuncture Asunto: acupuncture Low of cure"geovani" <inandor

This is regarding my first post to this forum - which was a question

concerning agravation in acup. The responses where quite variable...

 

"The law of cure: This is one of the Laws of Five-Elements. It is most simply expressed by saying that as the body, mind and spirit return do balance, symptoms tend to re-appear in reverse chronological order, to disapear from above to below, an to leave the body from within to without.....patients commonly report recurrence of earlier symptoms, sometimes even more sever than de first time, but carrying with them a sense of "feeling better inside" "

 

JR Worsley -volume III (...after 51 years of practice...)

 

And when after this recurrence or getting worse, if they doesn't improve, is just something related to their Shen, something emotional is happening there.

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" geovani " <inandor

 

 

This is regarding my first post to this forum - which was a question

concerning agravation in acup. The responses where quite variable...

 

" The law of cure: This is one of the Laws of Five-Elements. It is most

simply expressed by

saying that as the body, mind and spirit return do balance, symptoms tend to

re-appear in reverse

chronological order, to disapear from above to below, an to leave the body from

within to

without.....patients commonly report recurrence of earlier symptoms, sometimes

even more sever than

de first time, but carrying with them a sense of " feeling better inside " "

 

JR Worsley -volume III (...after 51 years of practice...)

 

JC> And when after this recurrence or getting worse, if they doesn't

improve, is just something

related to their Shen, something emotional is happening there.

 

geovani> In other words, the real caustive factor was not clearly seen.

That is way it is so important to START OFF with signs that include the

emocional imbalance, and that will point to the real zang-fu that is sick.

[Guest guest]

Exactly, ancient texts tell us: the bad acupunctorists make the diagnose through pulse, observation of..../.../ but the good ones examine the Shen of the patient, which is the most important thing.../.../

 

Muchas gracias por su atención,

Thank you very much for all your attention,

 

Josep Carrion.

 

jcarrionterapeuta

 

-----Mensaje original-----De: geovani [inandor]Enviado el: lunes, 06 de marzo de 2000 23:30Para: acupuncture Asunto: Re: acupuncture Low of cure"geovani" <inandor "geovani" <inandor This is regarding my first post to this forum - which was a question concerning agravation in acup. The responses where quite variable... "The law of cure: This is one of the Laws of Five-Elements. It is most simply expressed bysaying that as the body, mind and spirit return do balance, symptoms tend to re-appear in reversechronological order, to disapear from above to below, an to leave the body from within towithout.....patients commonly report recurrence of earlier symptoms, sometimes even more sever thande first time, but carrying with them a sense of "feeling better inside" " JR Worsley -volume III (...after 51 years of practice...) JC> And when after this recurrence or getting worse, if they doesn't improve, is just somethingrelated to their Shen, something emotional is happening there. geovani> In other words, the real caustive factor was not clearly seen. That is way it is so important to START OFF with signs that include the emocional imbalance, and that will point to the real zang-fu that is sick.