L-5; P-3; H-3

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acudoc11

 

The reason that many miss not only this point but many others is the

misconception of placing a needle directly into a muscle. Most all points

are right at the edge usually between two muscles. There is where the

channel/river is located. Whether it be 1 tsun or otherwise from the tibia.

Measurements are for convention and what I call triangulation. Of course one

must feel the point. Not only the energetics but the anatomical location such

as BETWEEN two muscles.

 

I have written a short description on where Lung 5 is 'exactly' located and

have verified it's correctness. Even though almost all the books including

WHO and the Chinese government have poorly or incompletely described it's

location. This incomplete description goes back to the ancient books - also.

They were no better when it came to Lung 5.

 

Would anyone care to comment on where they think it is? I am talking about a

complete and accurate written description as opposed to what you feel. In

books and diagrams this has been written so poorly that a very high

percentage of acupuncturists place this point totally out of place. Even

totally off the channel flow. What a shame for such an efficacious point.

 

Richard A. Freiberg, LAc, DAc, DOM

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geovani> Good point, Richard. The exact location of

Lung-5; Heart-3; and P-3 (pericardium)

 

....and their sise?

 

Also: How far is St-44 from the " end " of the feet. I mean,

the distance from the space between the second and third

fingers? Or still....how far from the extra point Bafeng?

I've found conflicting indications. It is distal (further down)

from the metatarsus/falange articulation, yes? (...hmmm....I am

lost with these anatomical translations, sorry))

[Guest guest]

Good point geovani.

More for discussion.

 

Here is the short description of Lung 05 ChiZe

 

INCOMPLETELY AND USUALLY LOCATED AS:

On the cubital crease of the elbow, in the depression at the radial side of

the tendon of biceps brachii.

 

MORE ACCURATELY LOCATED:

On the cubital crease of the elbow in the depression between the ulnar edge

of the brachioradialis muscle and the radial edge of the flexor carpi

radialis muscle; and radial to both the bicipital aponeurosis and

approximately 1cun medial to the biceps brachii muscle.

 

NOT AT the biceps brachii tendon

and also

NOT SLIGHTLY medial to the biceps brachii tendon. These are nopt good enough.

 

This is another prime example of where points are located AT or BETWEEN the

edges of two muscles.

 

 

In a message dated 2/22/0 12:02:41 PM, inandor wrote:

<< " geovani " <inandor

 

 

acudoc11

 

The reason that many miss not only this point but many others is the

 

misconception of placing a needle directly into a muscle. Most all points

 

are right at the edge usually between two muscles. There is where the

 

channel/river is located. Whether it be 1 tsun or otherwise from the tibia.

 

Measurements are for convention and what I call triangulation. Of course one

 

must feel the point. Not only the energetics but the anatomical location such

 

as BETWEEN two muscles.

 

 

I have written a short description on where Lung 5 is 'exactly' located and

 

have verified it's correctness. Even though almost all the books including

 

WHO and the Chinese government have poorly or incompletely described it's

 

location. This incomplete description goes back to the ancient books - also.

 

They were no better when it came to Lung 5.

 

 

Would anyone care to comment on where they think it is? I am talking about a

 

complete and accurate written description as opposed to what you feel. In

 

books and diagrams this has been written so poorly that a very high

 

percentage of acupuncturists place this point totally out of place. Even

 

totally off the channel flow. What a shame for such an efficacious point.

 

 

Richard A. Freiberg, LAc, DAc, DOM

 

-------------------

 

 

geovani> Good point, Richard. The exact location of

 

Lung-5; Heart-3; and P-3 (pericardium)

 

 

....and their sise?

 

 

Also: How far is St-44 from the " end " of the feet. I mean,

 

the distance from the space between the second and third

 

fingers? Or still....how far from the extra point Bafeng?

 

I've found conflicting indications. It is distal (further down)

 

from the metatarsus/falange articulation, yes? (...hmmm....I am

 

lost with these anatomical translations, sorry))

 

 

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