Cun Ruler.

[Guest guest]

the trouble with elastic is that how do you put a dot on or your finger on

the point?

As soon as you try, sproooiiinggg, the elastic is history.

I teach my students the string method and to eyeball, use the patients hand

and body sections.

But I'm not as concerned with being exactly, exactly accurate. Soon enough

they should get the point by palpation only.

[Guest guest]

Murray,

 

SNIP

>also a body ruler

> someone suggested with the cun measurements on is also not recommended as

> the Tsun and body measurements are as per the particular person you are

> treating.

 

With regards to the ruler I mentioned. I initially thought the same thing,

but the nifty part about this is that it was elastic and someone had done

their homework because it remained accurate across many different people.

 

I expressed my thoughts to the owner of the ruler (who is IMHO one of the 2

best acupuncturists in my city) and Karen and I tested it on the attendees

of the workshop we were at (an Introduction to 5E acupuncture - Karen was

assisting a college-friend of hers with teaching). We tested it on probably

15 different people and it remained consistent across all of them.

 

There may be situations where this is not the case, and you may well be

aware of what I am referring to, but hey - this is my $0.00000002 worth ;-)

 

Yours.

 

MartyR

The " To Be " Acupuncturist.

(one day)

 

;-0)

[Guest guest]

Good Point!!

 

> the trouble with elastic is that how do you put a dot on or your finger on

> the point?

> As soon as you try, sproooiiinggg, the elastic is history.

 

My friend had devised a rather cunning (contorted?) method of doing this

involving 2 fingers and a thumb, but it could prove to be an issue in the

short term.

 

;-)

 

MR

[Guest guest]

" Marty Rickard " <martyr

 

Good Point!!

 

> the trouble with elastic is that how do you put a dot on or your finger on

> the point?

> As soon as you try, sproooiiinggg, the elastic is history.

 

My friend had devised a rather cunning (contorted?) method of doing this

involving 2 fingers and a thumb, but it could prove to be an issue in the

short term.

 

;-)

 

MR

 

geovani: Seems a good ideia,...to get used to the " general "

position of the points. But how it works exactly? You probably

take to references - like the pulse and elbow - and place the

proper amount of cuns in the interval with an elastic ruler. Nice.

I would hold one end with the little finger of one hand on the

ruller, and use the thumb of that same hand as the marker.

Should work with moust of the points. And as it is being pointed out,

this would be good to get the initial general positioning of the points.

[Guest guest]

A chunameter is good to re-check your points... it tends to jog the brain for

the big mistakes.

I've tested alot of people in point location and most people miss by a big

margin. Like the wrong channel or just the wrong point altogether. Few points

are lost by a short distance.

In California where the point exam has been long dreaded and dispised (and

now discontinued), the people who did the best only used string.

Of course in the clinic, you don't carry any of those " aids " and use only

your fingers.

Now in my point classes that I teach, I mainly eye-ball the student's points,

using my hands and string.

[Guest guest]

A quick comment about Chon meters. They were standard issue for the first

year point location class at the acupuncture college I studied at. they are

elastic and work really well on obese and odd sized people. A way we would

practice is locate the points manually and mark them. then use a Chon meter

to see how accurate we were.

 

Marc

[Guest guest]

 

 

A chunameter is good to re-check your points... it tends to jog the brain for

the big mistakes.

I've tested alot of people in point location and most people miss by a big

margin. Like the wrong channel or just the wrong point altogether. Few points

are lost by a short distance.

In California where the point exam has been long dreaded and dispised (and

now discontinued), the people who did the best only used string.

Of course in the clinic, you don't carry any of those " aids " and use only

your fingers.

Now in my point classes that I teach, I mainly eye-ball the student's points,

using my hands and string.

 

geovani: Could you clear this last para. You mean you eye-ball the

points (what you mean by student's?)....and then confirm them with the

string (elastic meter)? Also....when you say that in the California, the people

who did best only used string, you mean they used the string to make the

exams, or that they practiced with the string to be able to locate them without

the string afterwards? Sorry....is just that English is not my natural

language,

and I am missing some important nuances......thanks.

 

regards

 

geovani

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I mean to say that I check my students points by just looking and then

confirm using string. And when taking the California exam the best scores

were those by the students who used the string in the exam.

 

>>> You mean you eye-ball the points (what you mean by student's?)....and

then confirm them with the

string (elastic meter)? Also....when you say that in the California, the

people

who did best only used string, you mean they used the string to make the

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