Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 To test weapons: Here is a story new to Rense. Truth? Ed Rense.com Horrifying US Secret Weapon Unleashed In Baghdad Exclusive By Bill Dash c. 2003 8-25-03 A nightmarish US super weapon reportedly was employed by American ground forces during chaotic street fighting in Baghdad. The secret tank-mounted weapon was witnessed in all its frightening power by Majid al-Ghazali, a seasoned Iraqi infantryman who described the device and its gruesome effects as unlike anything he had ever encountered in his lengthy military service. The disturbing revelation is yet another piece of cinematic evidence brought back from postwar Iraq by intrepid filmmaker Patrick Dillon. In the film, al-Ghazali, whose english is less than fluent, describes the weapon as reminiscent of a flame thrower, only immensely more powerful. It is unclear what principle the weapon is based on. Searching for a description, al-Ghazali said it appeared to be shooting concentrated lightning bolts rather than just ordinary flames. Drawing on his many years as a professional engineer, al-Ghazali speculates that radiation of some kind probably figures into the weapon's hideous capabilities. Like all men in Saddam's Iraq, al-Ghazali was compelled to serve in the Iraqi equivalent of the Army National Guard and fought in three wars over the past thirty-odd years. Via email, he told me he has seen virtually every type of conventional weapon employed in battle, and is well acquainted with their effects on people and machines, but nothing in his extensive combat experience prepared him for the shock of what he saw in Baghdad on April 12th. On that date, al-Ghazali and his family sheltered in their house as a fierce street battle erupted in his neighborhood. In the midst of the fighting, he noticed that the Americans had called up an oddly configured tank. Then to his amazement the tank suddenly let loose a blinding stream of what seemed like fire and lightning, engulfing a large passenger bus and three automobiles. Within seconds the bus had become semi-molten, sagging " like a wet rag " as he put it. He said the bus rapidly melted under this withering blast, shrinking until it was a twisted blob about the dimensions of a VW bug. As if that were not bizarre enough, al-Ghazali explicitly describes seeing numerous human bodies shriveled to the size of newborn babies. By the time local street fighting ended that day, he estimates between 500 and 600 soldiers and civilians had been cooked alive as a result of the mysterious tank-mounted device. In a city littered everywhere with burned-out civilian and military vehicles, US forces were abnormally scrupulous about immediately detailing bulldozers and shovel crews to the job of burying the grim wreckage. Nevertheless, telltale remnants remained as Dillon found when al-Ghazali later took him to the site. Dillon said they easily uncovered large puddles of resolidified metal and mounds of weird fibrous material that, al-Ghazali explained, were all that remained of the vehicles' tires. Dillon, who accumulated plenty of battlefield experience as a medic in Viet-Nam, and has since covered a number of wars from Somalia to Kosovo, told me that he has witnessed every kind of conventional ordnance that can be used on humans and vehicles. " I've seen a freaking smorgasbord of destruction in my life, " he said, " flame-throwers, napalm, white phosphorous, thermite, you name it. I know of nothing short of an H-bomb that conceivably might cause a bus to instantly liquefy or that can flash broil a human body down to the size of an infant. God pity humanity if that thing is a preview of what's in store for the 21st century. " For Majid al-Ghazali, images of the terrifying weapon and its victims haunt his every day. In addition to his work as an engineer, he is also a highly accomplished classical violinist, occupying the first chair in the Baghdad Symphony. He is widely acknowledged as one of the preeminent violinists in the Middle East. Besides his family, one of his greatest joys is teaching at Baghdad's premier music conservatory. Unfortunately, the conservatory was utterly destroyed. Yet somehow, despite the war's horrors and its seemingly endless privations, he manages to maintain a remarkably hopeful outlook. He recently informed me that the Baghdad Symphony continues to exist and has been invited to perform in the United States in December. Copyright ©2003 - Bill Dash See also associated article by Bill Dash... Iraqi Commander Swears He Saw US Evacuate Saddam Disclaimer Email This Article MainPage http://www.rense.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 And what would you say to this news that appeared in the London's The Guardian: the present US government and the Pakistani military (self-appointed) President Musharraf have entered a contract NOT to capture or kill Osama bin Laden who is hiding in the north west part of Pakistan? The lever used by Musharraf was the argument that if bin Laden were caught or killed in Pakistan, then there would be uprising within Pakistan that even the military government of Pakistan would not be able to stop. The implicit threat therein is that in that scenario the nuclear bomb of Pakistan will be stolen by the terrorists. It is terrifying to note the number of Frankesteins or potential Herr Reich the US has created around the world. Ratan. - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:32 AM One possibility of why US is in Iraq To test weapons: Here is a story new to Rense. Truth? Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Absolutely Ratan:  One is left saying “If only this, or if only that.† The design of the federal government by the constitution of the United States into a constitutional republic was intended to enable a certain amount of centralized government and no more than what had been intended. And that was intended to make businesses (whose interests were represented in the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention, of the confederated states within the union to be able to conduct international business in a world that was saw one of the purposes of government being to control and reap the profits of business. The first form of government after the successful revolution protected individual rights to such an extent that it couldn’t effectively operate what some of them saw as the purpose of government as well---one thing of which was to enable business interests to operate internationally—treaties. And to borrow money and resell it—banking. And to regulate different things that would occur between the various states. In order to do that effectively, they needed to be able to tax.  But all was limited in scope by the Constitution.  Said Constitution is only paid lip service today. The people of the US are actually ruled by an unconstitutional “Patriot Act†which effectively does away with most of the protection of individual rights for the sake of so=called “protection and security.â€Â   But in getting from there to here, the United States has pursued a course, specifically for its own empowerment and the empowerment and profits of its business interests, that has set up dictators here, there, and everywhere. The vestment of the individual with rights over against government would stop all of that. It would preclude the US government from meddling in the affairs of other nations. It does so with the same rationale as it takes rights away from people here. Let us protect you, or our interests (business and not individual rights) are at risk. There is always a rationale. But it is like a little boy who is always getting into fights and all the time is telling people that he never does anything to cause them. Fight, fight, fight but it is not my responsibility.  It was never the purpose of the US to kill ben Laden. Both Bush administrations have been intricately tied up to him through familial interests, both on the American side and the Saudi Arabian side, and now apparently with Pakistani interests as well. But both families have benefited through the policies of the US government with the Saudi Arabian government. Both governments have interests that seek profits, and power, generated by the businesses controlled by the ben Laden family, and the Bush family.  One of the purposes of the US constitution was to secure the rights that were inherent to people merely by virtue of the fact that they were people. There was recognition that they were born with those rights, and that would assume that all people, everywhere were born with those rights. Those rights existed over against the government and its purpose was merely to secure them, again. But the US government, today, is intent only on securing the rights of a certain elite status of individuals who would rule the world. And to do it by hook or by crook, violence or monetary and trade manipulations, etc.etc.  But anyways, that’s what I say.  Sorry to those who don’t like political orations. But the same reasons I am saying this are exactly the same reasons that exist behind the Department of Agriculture,; the Food and Drug Administration, and any other department that any say over what we individual people decide to either eat as food, or to treat ourselves with as medicine. We have the inherent right as individuals to decide these things for ourselves according to the various amounts of information we have at the time. We don’t need any other individual to be telling us, and restricting us, from what we would do for ourselves. Ed DR. Ratan Singh [ratans] Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:45 AM To: Re: One possibility of why US is in Iraq And what would you say to this news that appeared in the London's The Guardian: the present US government and the Pakistani military (self-appointed) President Musharraf have entered a contract NOT to capture or kill Osama bin Laden who is hiding in the north west part of Pakistan? The lever used by Musharraf was the argument that if bin Laden were caught or killed in Pakistan, then there would be uprising within Pakistan that even the military government of Pakistan would not be able to stop. The implicit threat therein is that in that scenario the nuclear bomb of Pakistan will be stolen by the terrorists. It is terrifying to note the number of Frankesteins or potential Herr Reich the US has created around the world. Ratan. - Ed Siceloff Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:32 AM Subject: One possibility of why US is in Iraq To test weapons: Here is a story new to Rense. Truth? 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