Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 On addressing deficiencies, only doctors and naturopaths can order blood work in Canada. I ask clients to get their testing done by a doctor, and the doctor usually passes. Meanwhile, I recommend my clients supplement to address the deficiencies that 80% of North America has, meaning the ones I might guess by observation, and those that are most likely to be apparent after asking clients what they eat. And by deficiencies I don't mean overt, disease-causing ones that the doctor is likely to catch in the blood work, but subclinical deficiencies that contribute to general unwellness. I do very little dietary planning beyond general advice; in other words I don't map out complete diets for people but I do add or eliminate a few foods, some of which are sketched below. I learn from orthomolecular nutritionists more than from dieticians. The fact that the local dieticians flip out if I recommend more than the RDA makes me glad I'm not one of them. I recommend rebounding, detoxification, avoidance of electromagnetic pollution, bowel cleansing, liver flushes and parasite cleanses. I recommend eliminating several foods including corn, canola, soy and other unhealthy oils as the main oils source except as required for EFAs. I recommend increasing oxygen levels, reducing simple carbs and starches, and increasing vegetable intake of nearly all varieties. I also recommend increasing the quality of foods rather than the quantity. That kind of thing. Following the lead of the anti-aging doctors, I do recommend supplements for life in most of my clients. Usually things like vitamin b-complex, c, e, selenium, a, glutathione precursors, land or preferably sea minerals, and perhaps cod-liver oil for example... in addition to diet that may include them. Inelegant perhaps, but safe and effective. The Fat Wars book by master nutritionist and international speaker Brad King is very good, so I prefer to have my clients read it. The book is different in that it's about metabolic control rather than being another diet book, although there are a few recipes at the back. I'm sure my approach will be different from yours because I start from a molecular nutrition and metabolic control rather than from a food background, although the same bases are essentially covered. I'm not going to put the time into a detailed analysis of the finer points but I'm open to discussion if I do happen to have the time. I use ozone therapy, pulsed electromagnetic therapy, cranial electronic stimulation, I get people hooked up with meditation tapes that include hemi-sync for mental balance and increasing intellect. I also use Noni, coconut oil, etc for the pronounced positive effects they can produce. But with all of that I still defer to the specific abilities of the chiropractor, herbalist, doctor, naturopath, hypnotherapist, and send clients to them when the need arises. Duncan Crow > What tests do you have done to determine nutrient deficiencies and what > levels of supplementation is needed? How do you determine the causes of > the deficiencies, or do you just recommend that they stay on supplements > for life? What lifestyle changes do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 >>>I recommend rebounding, detoxification, avoidance of electromagnetic pollution,<<< I use ozone therapy, pulsed electromagnetic therapy, cranial electronic stimulation, <<< Duncan, I am curious about this apparent paradox -- If you recommend avoidance of "electromagnetic pollution" then how is it that you choose to use "pulsed electromagnetic therapy" as a treatment? Or electronic stimulation applied to the cranium - ie., the brain - for supposedly therapeutic purposes? It seems antithetical to me. Is it "good for you" if used specifically and in concentration to treat pain, but "bad for you" if in the environment to which we are naturally evolving & adapting? Thanks, Lil http://www.off-the-grid.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ducan, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you saying that you have NO FORMAL health care training! All you have is a web site and an office with charts on the wall! With no testing, you " recommend " that your clients take things (for life) based upon what other people MIGHT need! I hope that you are maintaining accurate and detailed records on each client, such as a Client Intake form, SOAP Charting, and have them sign a statement with a disclosure stating your SCOPE OF PRACTICE & what modalities that you use. Long term used of large quantities of almost any substance can be toxic or cause sensitivities & allergies. Even most foods will do that, which is why you don't eat the same thing each day. Food is seen as a foreign substance to your body and it must be digested, good stuff absorbed, and the rest eliminated in a reasonable time. What do you think pumping someone full of a large quantity of a food concentrate, NOT MONITORED, for a long time will do? This is exactly why the most governments are are trying to restrict the sale of vitamins, minerals, & food supplements to the medical profession. And this is why they will eventually succeed. -- Donald E. Jacobs Registered Massage Therapist Macrobiotic Counselor Reiki Practitioner Professional Speaker > On addressing deficiencies, only doctors and naturopaths can order blood > work in Canada. I ask clients to get their testing done by a doctor, and > the doctor usually passes. > > Meanwhile, > I recommend my clients supplement to address the deficiencies that 80% of > North America has, meaning the ones I might guess by observation, and > those that are most likely to be apparent after asking clients what they > eat. And by deficiencies I don't mean overt, disease-causing ones that > the doctor is likely to catch in the blood work, but subclinical > deficiencies that contribute to general unwellness. > > I do very little dietary planning beyond general advice; in other words I > don't map out complete diets for people but I do add or eliminate a few > foods, some of which are sketched below. I learn from orthomolecular > nutritionists more than from dieticians. The fact that the local > dieticians flip out if I recommend more than the RDA makes me glad I'm > not one of them. > > I recommend rebounding, detoxification, avoidance of electromagnetic > pollution, bowel cleansing, liver flushes and parasite cleanses. I > recommend eliminating several foods including corn, canola, soy and other > unhealthy oils as the main oils source except as required for EFAs. I > recommend increasing oxygen levels, reducing simple carbs and starches, > and increasing vegetable intake of nearly all varieties. I also recommend > increasing the quality of foods rather than the quantity. That kind of > thing. > > Following the lead of the anti-aging doctors, I do recommend supplements > for life in most of my clients. Usually things like vitamin b-complex, c, > e, selenium, a, glutathione precursors, land or preferably sea minerals, > and perhaps cod-liver oil for example... in addition to diet that may > include them. Inelegant perhaps, but safe and effective. > > The Fat Wars book by master nutritionist and international speaker Brad > King is very good, so I prefer to have my clients read it. The book is > different in that it's about metabolic control rather than being another > diet book, although there are a few recipes at the back. > > I'm sure my approach will be different from yours because I start from a > molecular nutrition and metabolic control rather than from a food > background, although the same bases are essentially covered. I'm not > going to put the time into a detailed analysis of the finer points but > I'm open to discussion if I do happen to have the time. > > I use ozone therapy, pulsed electromagnetic therapy, cranial electronic > stimulation, I get people hooked up with meditation tapes that include > hemi-sync for mental balance and increasing intellect. I also use Noni, > coconut oil, etc for the pronounced positive effects they can produce. > > But with all of that I still defer to the specific abilities of the > chiropractor, herbalist, doctor, naturopath, hypnotherapist, and send > clients to them when the need arises. > > Duncan Crow > > > What tests do you have done to determine nutrient deficiencies and what > > levels of supplementation is needed? How do you determine the causes of > > the deficiencies, or do you just recommend that they stay on supplements > > for life? What lifestyle changes do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Hi Lil; Electromedicine in its many forms, including cranial electronic stimulation, has a long history of research and successful use. These are controlled, short-term applications designed to effect a specific outcome. The current, frequency, amount of magnetism are known and the effects are known. On the other hand, electromagnetic pollution is uncontrolled and often continuous depending on the person's work or home environment. Some of the cumulative effects are known to be harmful. Duncan Crow > > > >>>I recommend rebounding, detoxification, avoidance of electromagnetic > pollution,<<< > > I use ozone therapy, pulsed electromagnetic therapy, cranial electronic > stimulation, <<< > > Duncan, I am curious about this apparent paradox -- If you recommend > avoidance of " electromagnetic pollution " then how is it that you choose to > use " pulsed electromagnetic therapy " as a treatment? Or electronic > stimulation applied to the cranium - ie., the brain - for supposedly > therapeutic purposes? > It seems antithetical to me. > Is it " good for you " if used specifically and in concentration to treat > pain, but " bad for you " if in the environment to which we are naturally > evolving & adapting? > > Thanks, > Lil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Hi Dunald; I'm comfortable with what I know without seeing the need for a pissing contest. My interests in nutrition and health span more than 20 years, starting with the book, " Life Extension " by Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw in 1981 or '82. I'm better informed than the average health food store owner, who also has no acceditation, and I'm well-received in their stores because they value my information. My training in ozone therapy included nutritional and detoxification subjects, and the process resulted in accreditation for this specialized field from one of only two sources in Canada. Training is ongoing; I still look up what I don't know and after 20 years I can admit to still not knowing it all. I do my research and I present from the research in my health workshops. Local doctors and naturopaths read my newspaper columns and practically all of the health practitioners use the pointers, partly due to my health columns in the local paper. What I do is non-regulated in Canada so by definition no accreditation exists. I could pursue paperwork from one of the dozens of diploma mills but see no reason to do that as only a few people are impressed with credentials in a field where results are the deciding factor. About your rant on government controls, I though everyone kew this, but for your information the real reason the government wants to control nutritional supplements has nothing to do with safety. It is purely due to lobbying and direct governmental interference from the Pharma Cartel, which is charged right now with genocide. In fact, corruption and greed rules your government, especially the FDA. The government does not have your best interests at heart, it's in the ring for financial gain. Baby Bush is named in the genocide complaint. http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/The_Hague/complaint/ > Duncan Crow's general approaches to health > > Ducan, > > WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !! Are you saying that you have NO FORMAL health care training! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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