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Barb, if the oestrogen content of soy is high enough to alleviate your HRT

symptoms, what is it doing to the testosterone development of young males,

when taken as a baby formula?

What is it doing to the fertility and speeded up development of young

girls - puberty blues being reached at the age of 8 - 10?

Maybe that is why we are facing a plethoric increase in the 'limpwristed'

brigade of late??

Jorge

 

Barb <barb1283

Monday, 7 July 2003 2:53

Re: High aluminum content in Pediatric

SoyProtein Formula

 

 

The only place I've read a lot of anti-Soy stuff

from 'alternative health' sources is Mercola.

However nothing to say he isn't get paid by

someone. Anyway, I take soy for estrogen content

and I was soo very sick from coming off of HRT

and within a few days of taking Soy replacement

was better, dramatically better. Then stopped it

and symptoms resumed and stopped again when I

took it so take it every day now. There is too

much money on the sides oposing soy for me to

give much credence to this, soy used in so many

countries for so long. Anyway this is nothing

that you can eat that is not risk free or not

tolerated by certain people while okay in others,

look at people allergic to peanuts, milk,

medicine (while others do fine), so I think soy

is okay.

As for aluminum in pediatric soy, well arsenic

and other toxins in the water also; give the kid

breast milk of mother not on 'anything' to be

safe.

Our food sources will never be 100% pure, ever.

barb

--- Elaine <mem121 wrote:

> Australian Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Policy

> 9/22/01-

>

http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/22/soy_protein_formula_policy.htm

> -

>

> Australian Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Policy

> Policy Statement of Royal

> College of Australian Physicians The lack of a

> suitable diagnostic test for

> food intolerance has allowed for an

> exaggeration of the incidence and a

> tendency for over-diagnosis. The true incidence

> of milk intolerance in our

> community is difficult to ascertain but a

> reasonable working figure would be

> 2.0% (1). The number of infants on soy formula

> outweighs this figure as soy

> formula accounts for approximately 10% of

> formula sales in Australia. There

> is no evidence that soy formulas are

> nutritionally better than cow's milk

> formula for normal infants. The assumption that

> symptomatic infants who

> improve on soy formula are therefore intolerant

> of milk protein is addressed

> in this statement (2). There are several

> well-characterized disorders caused

> by cow's milk protein intolerance (CMPI),

> including cow's milk allergy,

> cow's milk enteropathy and cow's milk colitis.

> There is also a range of

> vague signs and symptoms ascribed to CMPI,

> which includes excessive crying,

> vomiting, wind, colic, vague ill health, and

> tension-fatigue syndrome (3).

> With the latter symptoms, there is usually no

> evidence of associated chronic

> diarrhea or growth failure. Of concern, is that

> many of these latter

> symptoms may be the result of parent-child

> relationship problems, which are

> inappropriate to treat with soy formula.

> Controlled trials of cow's milk and

> soy formulae in colicky infants have not

> demonstrated a benefit from soy

> formula (4). The rationale for the use of soy

> formula is the assumption that

> soy protein is less antigenic than cow's milk

> protein and thus should be

> used in the treatment of CMPI, or

> prophylactically in patients at high risk

> for developing CMPI. Soy protein can cause

> intolerance reactions with

> gastrointestinal symptoms as well as acute

> anaphylaxis and up to 40% of

> infants intolerant of cow's milk also develop

> soy protein intolerance (6).

> Studies show that feeding soy formulae from

> birth in infants at increased

> risk of developing allergy, does not have a

> beneficial effect (7-9). Eastham

> et al, in a prospective feeding trial, showed

> soy protein to be at least as

> antigenic as cow's milk protein (8). Miskelly

> et al, in a randomized

> clinical trial of cow's milk vs soy protein

> formulae in children with family

> histories of atopic disease, demonstrated a

> similar incidence of wheezing

> and eczema between the groups and an increased

> incidence of napkin rash,

> diarrhea and oral thrush in the group fed soy

> formula (9). Thus, it seems

> that soy formula is inappropriate even in cases

> of proven CMPI, because of

> its ability to cause reactions. In cases of

> true gastrointestinal CMPI, the

> use of protein which has been hydrolyzed to the

> point that it is no longer

> antigenic, is preferred. Soy protein contains

> only one-third of available

> nitrogen as essential or semi-essential amino

> acids (10) and therefore has a

> lower biological value than milk protein. Soy

> may cause loss from the gut of

> vitamins, minerals and trace elements and it

> has been suggested that 10%

> more calories are needed in soy preparations in

> order to promote equivalent

> growth to infants breastfed or fed a milk

> formula (11). Low levels of

> chloride have been reported and may result in

> serious hypochloraemic

> alkalosis in infants fed soy formula (12).

> Manufacturers currently attempt

> to compensate for these potential problems by

> adding extra protein, trace

> elements and chloride to soy formulae. Growth

> of infants fed soy formulae is

> similar to that of infants fed formulae based

> on cow's milk protein but

> there is concern about poorer bone

> mineralization in infants fed soy

> formulae (13). The carbohydrate content of soy

> formula differs in each of

> the three commonly available preparations

> (Isomil: sucrose 36%, corn syrup

> solids 64%; Prosobee: maltodextrins 100%;

> Infasoy: sucrose 25%, corn syrup

> solids 75%). Sucrose is not the preferred

> carbohydrate in infancy because of

> its potential effect on teeth and development

> of inappropriate eating

> habits. High aluminum content has also been

> documented in soy formula (14).

> Soy is also a rich source of phytoestrogens

> (nonsteroidal estrogens of the

> isoflavone class). It is unclear whether these

> are beneficial (protect

> against breast and prostate cancer) or harmful

> (result in infertility and

> liver disease) (15). It is also possible that

> soy formula impairs immunity.

> Infants fed soy formula had lower levels of

> antibodies in response to

> routine immunizations and more infections than

> those fed human milk or cow's

> milk formula (16). Policy Statement of Royal

> College of Australian

> Physicians

>

> DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: It is great to find a

> major professional organization

> come down so strongly against soy formula.

> Perhaps soon the rest of the

> sleeping medical community will wake up on this

> issue. As I said last year:

> Soy formula is one of the worst foods that you

> could feed your child. Not

> only does it have profoundly adverse hormonal

> effects as discussed above,

> but it also has over 1000% more aluminum than

> conventional milk based

> formulas. I don't recommend either, but if one,

> for whatever reason, cannot

> breast feed, then Carnation Good Start until

> six months and Carnation

> Follow-Up after that seem to be the best

> commercial formula currently

> available, although it may not contain taurine,

> in which case it should be

> added. The milk protein is hydrolyzed 80% which

> tends to significantly

> decrease its allergenicity. It is also

> important to note that when breast

> feeding it is wise to avoid drinking milk as it

> has been shown for several

> decades that the milk will pass directly into

> the breast milk which can

> cause potential problems in the infant. Taurine

> is a " conditionally

> essential " amino acid and not present in

> sufficient quantities in most

> formulas. It would also be wise to split a 500

> mg Taurine capsule into 7

> parts and add one part a day to the formula so

> the total daily dose will be

> about 75 mg. It would also be wise to add 1/4

> to 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver

> oil a day to the babies diet even if being

> breast fed as the vitamin D and

> fatty acid DHA are incredibly important

> essential nutrients that are

> frequently lacking in an infant's diet. Related

> Articles: Soy Formulas and

> the Effects of Isoflavones on the Thyroid How

> Safe is Soy Infant Formula?

> Soy Formula Exposes Infants to High Hormone

> Levels References

> 1. Jacobsson I, Lindberg T. A prospective study

> of cow's milk protein

> intolerance in Swedish infants. Acta Paediatr

> Scand 1979; 68:853.

> 2. Editorial. How necessary are elimination

> diets in childhood? BMJ 1980;

> 1:138.

> 3. Tait LS. Soy feeding in infancy. Arch Dis

> Child 1982; 57:814-15.

> 4. Lothe L, Lindberg T, Jakobsson I. Cow's milk

> formula as a cause of

> infantile colic: a double-blind study.

> Pediatrics 1982; 70:7-10.

> 5. Taubman B. Parental counseling compared with

> eliminating of cow's milk or

> soy milk protein for the treatment of infant

> colic syndrome: a randomised

> trial. Pediatrics 1988; 81:756-61.

> 6. Hill DJ, Ford RPK, Shelton MJ, et al. A

> study of 100 infants and young

> children with cow's milk allergy. Clin Rev

> Allergy 1984; 2:125-42.

>

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Jorge,

I am taking Revival. It is advertised on Power

Surge, a site for women. It is concentrated and

patented to deliver the same amount of soy

isoflavones (the estrogen part) than 6 servings

of soy milk. I don't think it affects the

'preference of men' for men, I think that is

genetic or mental. Afterall their are men with

breasts etc who have them removed so they are

more appealing to women. Who one desires in the

head. Anyway, their are naturally occuring

phytoestrogens in many food sources. Men have

estrogen too don't they. I don't know if it is

okay for men. I have enough work finding things

for my current very difficult health problems.

You may be right. Don't know. Stay away from it

yourself. It has helped me though. Babies

should drink breast milk. Mothers should stay at

home until they are weaned. That would be my

opinion. barb

 

--- Jorge Roshkov <marjorg wrote:

> Barb, if the oestrogen content of soy is high

> enough to alleviate your HRT

> symptoms, what is it doing to the testosterone

> development of young males,

> when taken as a baby formula?

>

 

 

 

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A direct causal link has been established between soy isoflavones, thyroid

dysfunction and certain types of cancers, including breast cancer. But don't let

that stop you. Just keep on suckin' those isoflavones down.

 

Additional Information <http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_alert.html>

 

Facts about soy

 

High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium,

copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary

preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High

phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.

 

Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause

pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused

stunted growth.

 

Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause

infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.

 

Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and

may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked

to autoimmune thyroid disease.

 

Vitamin B 12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's

requirement for B 12 .

 

Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.

 

Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy

protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.

 

Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and

highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.

 

Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food

processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.

 

Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system

and the kidneys.

 

<http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_alert.html>

 

>Jorge,

>I am taking Revival. It is advertised on Power

>Surge, a site for women. It is concentrated and

>patented to deliver the same amount of soy

>isoflavones (the estrogen part) than 6 servings

>of soy milk. I don't think it affects the

>'preference of men' for men, I think that is

>genetic or mental. Afterall their are men with

>breasts etc who have them removed so they are

>more appealing to women. Who one desires in the

>head. Anyway, their are naturally occuring

>phytoestrogens in many food sources. Men have

>estrogen too don't they. I don't know if it is

>okay for men. I have enough work finding things

>for my current very difficult health problems.

>You may be right. Don't know. Stay away from it

>yourself. It has helped me though. Babies

>should drink breast milk. Mothers should stay at

>home until they are weaned. That would be my

>opinion. barb

 

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wow i've been reading the pro and con sides about soy and have been

trying to sort this out myself for sometime but have to say...you

really need to calm down about it neil. there is no need to tell

this woman to " keep on suckin' it down " she was in no way claiming

to have THE answer (as you seem to conveniently have) and was not

telling anyone what to do. when posting on a board like this it

would be helpful to keep your tone a little more friendly...as we are

all just trying to share info. personally i still don't know what i

think about soy (organic that is) but do know that every " fact " about

soy is backed by money--both on the pro and the con side...if you

don't think there is millions of meat and dairy dollars backing the

claims of weston price that you list you are sadly

mistaken...similarly i'm totally sure that the pro-soy comments are

backed by the soy industry...which is why this is a difficult issue

to sort out. i found the following ariticle helpful b/c the person

acknowleges this and doesn't look for an absolute answer...so i

thought i would share it...as that is the purpose of this board (she

also shows the way that a foundation like weston price can " make "

facts out of any info taken out of context).

luv laura

***************************************************

Sorting Out the Soy Story

 

 

 

Is it good or bad for us?

 

 

 

Kathleen DesMaisons, Ph.D.

 

 

 

I have been trying to sort out the soy story for a very long time.

Last week someone shared a link to a URL for the Weston Price

Foundation that has pages and pages of information about the horrors

of soy. One of these is titled " Teens Before Their Time " and talks

about a rise in early maturity in American girls. They indict soy

infant formula and cite a study done in 1986 called the Puerto Rico

Premature Therlarche Study and state that " the most significant

dietary association with premature sexual development was . . . soy

infant formula. " (Fallon 2002)

 

 

 

Later when quoting an individual who questioned the Puerto Rico

findings, the Weston Price Foundation article asked " Why would [the

author] leave out any reference to the Puerto Rico study in her

review? Is it because Dupont, owner of Protein Technology

Enterprises, is the leading manufacturer of soy protein isolate? "

[The author at that time was employed at a hospital funded by Dupont.]

 

 

 

As most of you know, I am very committed to getting truthful balanced

information. I was troubled by seeing a group that is priding itself

on providing useful information make comments about the supposed

agenda of a scientific article in this way. So I went and got the

citation for the 1985 Puerto Rico study. Now, the original article

actually says something very different from what the Weston Price

Foundation implies. Yes, there were a whole group of girls who showed

early sexual maturation. But in those children who were older than 2

when they sexually matured, there were " no significant associations "

to any of the variables including soy formula. In those under 2, they

found correlations with a maternal history of ovarian cysts,

consumption of various products and soy formula. Even more astounding

to me was the finding that the " statistical associations are probably

not sufficient to explain the reported increase because in over 50%

of the case subjects, there was no exposure to any of the risk

factors for which statistical associations were found. " (Freni-

Titulaer, Cordero et al. 1986)

 

 

 

So the Weston Price Foundation quoted a finding out of context and

made it sound like something totally different from what the study

actually reported. They basically misrepresented the original data. I

use this example to point to the information and misinformation with

which the pro and con sides of the soy story have lined up. I have

now read close to 500 scientific abstracts and articles on the soy

story. Here is a very simplified summary of my own conclusions:

 

 

 

· Soy can have both very positive and negative effects.

 

· The type of soy products used can have very different effects.

 

· The amount of soy products used has significantly different

effects.

 

 

 

In this discussion, I am going to lead you through a very simplified

analysis of what I have found. It certainly is incomplete, but I hope

it will give you a better understanding of some the issues and ways

to make informed decisions.

 

 

 

The scientific interest in the role of soy in health was fueled by

the observation that women in Asian countries (Japan, China and

Indonesia) had significantly lower levels of breast cancer than women

here.(Setchell 1998) These findings took a while to sort out and

generated some very exciting dialogue in the scientific literature.

(Morton, Arisaka et al. 2002)

 

 

 

Soy isoflavones are estrogenic. This means they are shaped like

estrogen and they go and sit in the estrogen receptors. This can be

good or bad depending on whether you want this effect or how much soy

you have. During menopause, soy can 'soften' the impact of wildly

fluctuating estrogen levels. (Setchell 2001)This is why it is now

being marketed as a perfect 'all natural' solution, a great

replacement for hormone replacement therapy.

 

 

 

There are some pretty clear benefits of soy in diet. A few of these

are:

 

 

 

· Soy can have an impressive effect in limiting postmenopausal

osteoporosis. This is one of the very positive estrogenic effects.

(Scheiber, Liu et al. 2001), (Picherit, Bennetau-Pelissero et al.

2001), (Arjmandi, Birnbaum et al. 1998)

 

 

 

· Soy can improve vaginal health for post-menopausal women. It

helps ward off what is known as vaginal atrophy that is a thinning of

the vaginal wall that comes with aging. (Santen, Pinkerton et al.

2002), (Baird, Umbach et al. 1995)

 

 

 

· Soy contributes to lower cholesterol (this was shown with soy

foods not as supplements). (Anderson, Johnstone et al. 1995)

 

 

 

· Soy is heart healthy because it relaxes coronary arteries,

reduces inflammation, reduces blood lipids, homocysteine and blood

pressure. (Setchell 2001)

 

 

 

· Soy seems to be chemo protective in certain breast cancers.

This happens when the soy isoflavones go and sit in the estrogen

sites and block the actual estrogen from signaling for the cancer

cells to grow. This effect is true for those cancers that are made

worse by higher levels of estrogen. (Pagliacci, Smacchia et al. 1994)

 

 

 

· Soy contains something called a protease inhibitor that can

have powerful anticancer properties. Protease is an enzyme that is

involved in making new cells. If you stop the process, you keep

cancers from growing. Soy has been shown to have a very powerful

effect on some cancers. (Kennedy 1998)

 

 

 

· Soy seems to have a particularly powerful effect on bladder

cancer.(Su, Yeh et al. 2000)

 

 

 

· Soy protein intake is a very useful option for those with

kidney disease because it is very low stress on the kidneys.

(Anderson, Blake et al. 1998)

 

 

 

Of course, the very estrogenic effect that creates these desirable

benefits can have a down side. Let's take a look at some of these:

 

 

 

The first of these, and perhaps that of the most questions comes with

the use of soy for infants and children. That issue is so complex and

important that I am going to write a separate piece about it. Let's

take a look at some of the issues for adults.

 

 

 

· Soy protein at higher levels can disturb menstrual cycles in

younger women (premenopausal) causing delayed menstruation and mid

cycle surges of leutinizing hormones and suppressing FSH. Both can

lead to the body getting confused about when and how to ovulate.

(Cassidy, Bingham et al. 1995)

 

 

 

· One set of studies showed that adult cheetahs eating a soy

diet became infertile and showed changes in their liver enzymes.

There has been debate about whether these findings can be applied to

humans but it does raise some questions that needs more study.

(Setchell, Gosselin et al. 1987)

 

 

 

· Genistein, which is one of the isoflavones in soy, directly

blocks the neurotransmitter GABAA. GABAA quiets the brain. It calms

anxiety and panic. Drugs such as Valium, Librium, Halcyon, Ambien,

Restoril and Klonipin activate GABAA. If you are prone to

anxiety/panic or are taking any of these drugs, taking a soy product

will not be a good idea. This effect does not occur with cooked

products such as tofu. (Gumbmann, Spangler et al. 1986)

 

 

 

· Persons taking antidepressants called MAO inhibitors should

avoid ALL soy products. (Shulman and Walker 1999)

 

 

 

· Episodes of nausea, feet edema and breast tenderness have

been associated with taking genistein, one of the specific soy

isoflavones.(Bloedon, Jeffcoat et al. 2002)

 

 

 

· Soy foods (not isoflavones) can inhibit iron absorption. This

seems to be a function of the fiber found in the bean part of soy

foods and can be overcome with the use of vitamin C. Wheat and oat

bran have a similar effect. (Cook, Morck et al. 1981)

 

 

 

· Soy isoflavones can contribute to thyroid problems by

inhibiting one of the steps in a long line of key actions that make

for healthy thyroid function. This particular concern is often widely

cited as the reason not to have soy. But it is important to note that

this effect was only true in iodine deficient diets. Iodine comes

from eating shellfish and iodized salt. (Divi, Chang et al. 1997)

 

 

 

· Genistein, a soy isoflavone, can create heart irregularity

such as arthymia. (Paillart, Carlier et al. 1997), (Chiang, Chen et

al. 1996)

 

 

 

· Tripsin inhibitors in uncooked soy used at high levels can

create problems in the pancreas. There is some disagreement about the

significance of these, but I would lend caution for people who have

impaired pancreatic function such as diabetics.(Gumbmann, Spangler et

al. 1986)

 

 

 

· There also seems to be a connection between soy and something

called insulin like growth factor. This is a hormone that mimics

insulin in the body. When our systems work well, a higher level of

IGF means we need less insulin. IGF takes over some of insulin's job.

This means we get less of the negative effects that come with high

insulin levels. In one study, the level of IGF was increased on

a " low " isoflavone diet in the study. (About 60 mg. per day for a 150

lb. person) and showed that higher levels of soy isoflavones

decreased the level of IGF. (Maake, Yamamoto et al. 1997), (Wangen,

Duncan et al. 2000), (Khalil, Lucas et al. 2002)

 

 

 

· Soymilk can reduce hair growth and the dimension of the hair

shaft. It can also effect hair pigmentation. So drinking a lot of

soymilk may create skinny, grey hair. (Seiberg, Liu et al. 2001)

 

 

 

Before the negative concerns spook you, go back and reread the

positive things. As you can see, there are powerful effects on both

sides of the equation. And, you can begin to see why all these

conflicting claims would confuse any of us. After all this reading,

my best sense is that some soy every day is a wonderful aid to health

in many, many areas. This is particularly true if you are a woman who

is approaching or in menopause. But too much soy creates real

problems, including a contribution to weight gain by suppressing IGF

and potentially contributing to hypothyroidism in iodine deficient

people.

 

 

 

Many of us were seduced by the claims that soy is the all-powerful

solution to hormone shifts. And we had a lot of it. Soy powder in

shakes, soy lattes, soymilk as an alternative to dairy, soy cheese,

edame at the sushi store, tofu quick and easy. We started getting a

little tubbier; we felt that our metabolism wasn't quite right. We

had tests and nothing showed but we knew something was operating.

From what I have read, overuse of soy can certainly contribute to

many of these subtle concerns we have had.

 

 

 

Now, does this mean we chuck it? Absolutely not. But I think it does

mean we start paying attention to what kind and how much. I do think

that using concentrated isoflavones is a not good idea at all. So

what is the right amount? What is too much? Based on all that I have

read, my current thinking is the right amount is one serving per day.

One serving for a woman who is 150-200 pounds generally will mean

between 25-40 mg of isoflavones that come from about 12-20 grams of

soy product. Soy products generally have about 2 times the number of

mg of isoflavones per gram of soy. The actual amount you eat should

change according to your weight and age. As you get older and your

estrogen levels diminish, you will want to have more. If you are a

smaller person, you will have less. The idea is not to be scared or

compulsive about the numbers, but simply to learn how much soy you

are having. This is exactly the same process you used in learning to

calculate the amount of protein you use. You get a sense of who you

are and then plan your serving size accordingly.

 

 

 

This means if you use a soy protein powder, you should use a

different liquid like oat or almond or cow milk. [Although I am

thinking about the issue that soy fed cows and chickens may somehow

be involved in this story.] (Brown and Setchell 2001)] If you want to

use soymilk as your liquid, then choose a protein powder that does

not contain soy.

 

 

 

If you plan on having tofu or tempeh for another meal, don't have a

shake that day. If you are vegetarian, I would strongly encourage you

to rethink the reliance on soy products as your primary protein

source and look to other legume and nut sources as alternatives for

your protein.

 

 

 

I also strongly advise you not to give your small children soymilk as

an alternative to dairy. I will cover this in my next article on

children and soy.

 

 

 

Let me make one final comment about the power of scientific findings.

Many of the studies have what are called confounding variables which

can affect the outcomes in a major way. Yes, the evidence from the

breast cancer rate of Asian women is very compelling, but none of the

studies make any reference to what I believe are 2 key factors in the

incidence of breast cancers - the level of sugars and the proportion

of Omega 3 to Omega 6 fatty acids. I think it is reasonable to assume

that the traditional Asian diet is significantly higher in fish

(Omega 3), lower in saturated fat (Omega 6) and lower in sugars than

the typical American diet. So, I am not sure it is just the soy in

the diet. I think the story is bigger than that.

 

 

 

But I hope this discussion has given you some way to make sense of

all the claims. I will continue to have soy as a regular part of my

diet, but plan on having way less than I have been.

 

 

 

Anderson, J. W., J. E. Blake, et al. (1998). " Effects of soy protein

on renal function and proteinuria in patients with type 2 diabetes. "

Am J Clin Nutr 68(6 Suppl): 1347S-1353S.

 

 

 

 

 

Anderson, J. W., B. M. Johnstone, et al. (1995). " Meta-analysis of

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(5): 276-82.

 

 

 

 

 

Arjmandi, B. H., R. Birnbaum, et al. (1998). " Bone-sparing effect of

soy protein in ovarian hormone-deficient rats is related to its

isoflavone content. " Am J Clin Nutr 68(6 Suppl): 1364S-1368S.

 

 

 

 

 

Baird, D. D., D. M. Umbach, et al. (1995). " Dietary intervention

study to assess estrogenicity of dietary soy among postmenopausal

women. " J Clin Endocrinol Metab 80(5): 1685-90.

 

 

 

 

 

Bloedon, L. T., A. R. Jeffcoat, et al. (2002). " Safety and

pharmacokinetics of purified soy isoflavones: single-dose

administration to postmenopausal women. " Am J Clin Nutr 76(5): 1126-

37.

 

 

 

Brown, N. M. and K. D. Setchell (2001). " Animal models impacted by

phytoestrogens in commercial chow: implications for pathways

influenced by hormones. " Lab Invest 81(5): 735-47.

 

 

 

 

 

Cassidy, A., S. Bingham, et al. (1995). " Biological effects of

isoflavones in young women: importance of the chemical composition of

soyabean products. " Br J Nutr 74(4): 587-601.

 

 

 

 

 

Chiang, C. E., S. A. Chen, et al. (1996). " Genistein directly

inhibits L-type calcium currents but potentiates cAMP-dependent

chloride currents in cardiomyocytes. " Biochem Biophys Res Commun 223

(3): 598-603.

 

 

 

 

 

Cook, J. D., T. A. Morck, et al. (1981). " The inhibitory effect of

soy products on nonheme iron absorption in man. " Am J Clin Nutr 34

(12): 2622-9.

 

 

 

 

 

Divi, R. L., H. C. Chang, et al. (1997). " Anti-thyroid isoflavones

from soybean: isolation, characterization, and mechanisms of action. "

Biochem Pharmacol 54(10): 1087-96.

 

 

 

 

 

Fallon, S. a. E., M G (2002). Teens Before Their time.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dis Child 140(12): 1263-7.

 

 

 

 

 

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inhibitors in the diet: effects on the rat pancreas of long-term

feeding of soy flour and soy protein isolate. " Adv Exp Med Biol 199:

33-79.

 

 

 

 

 

Kennedy, A. R. (1998). " The Bowman-Birk inhibitor from soybeans as an

anticarcinogenic agent. " Am J Clin Nutr 68(6 Suppl): 1406S-1412S.

 

 

 

 

 

Khalil, D. A., E. A. Lucas, et al. (2002). " Soy protein

supplementation increases serum insulin-like growth factor-I in young

and old men but does not affect markers of bone metabolism. " J Nutr

132(9): 2605-8.

 

 

 

 

 

Maake, C., H. Yamamoto, et al. (1997). " The growth hormone dependent

serine protease inhibitor, Spi 2.1 inhibits the des (1-3) insulin-

like growth factor-I generating protease. " Endocrinology 138(12):

5630-6.

 

 

 

 

 

Morton, M. S., O. Arisaka, et al. (2002). " Phytoestrogen

concentrations in serum from Japanese men and women over forty years

of age. " J Nutr 132(10): 3168-71.

 

 

 

 

 

Pagliacci, M. C., M. Smacchia, et al. (1994). " Growth-inhibitory

effects of the natural phyto-oestrogen genistein in MCF-7 human

breast cancer cells. " Eur J Cancer 30A(11): 1675-82.

 

 

 

 

 

Paillart, C., E. Carlier, et al. (1997). " Direct block of voltage-

sensitive sodium channels by genistein, a tyrosine kinase inhibitor. "

J Pharmacol Exp Ther 280(2): 521-6.

 

 

 

 

 

Picherit, C., C. Bennetau-Pelissero, et al. (2001). " Soybean

isoflavones dose-dependently reduce bone turnover but do not reverse

established osteopenia in adult ovariectomized rats. " J Nutr 131(3):

723-8.

 

 

 

 

 

Santen, R. J., J. V. Pinkerton, et al. (2002). " Treatment of

urogenital atrophy with low-dose estradiol: preliminary results. "

Menopause 9(3): 179-87.

 

 

 

 

 

Scheiber, M. D., J. H. Liu, et al. (2001). " Dietary inclusion of

whole soy foods results in significant reductions in clinical risk

factors for osteoporosis and cardiovascular disease in normal

postmenopausal women. " Menopause 8(5): 384-92.

 

 

 

 

 

Seiberg, M., J. C. Liu, et al. (2001). " Soymilk reduces hair growth

and hair follicle dimensions. " Exp Dermatol 10(6): 405-13.

 

 

 

 

 

Setchell, K. D. (1998). " Phytoestrogens: the biochemistry,

physiology, and implications for human health of soy isoflavones. " Am

J Clin Nutr 68(6 Suppl): 1333S-1346S.

 

 

 

 

 

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nature's selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs). " J Am Coll

Nutr 20(5 Suppl): 354S-362S; discussion 381S-383S.

 

 

 

 

 

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Gastroenterology 93(2): 225-33.

 

 

 

 

 

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(3): 191-3.

 

 

 

 

 

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as a chemoprevention approach for human urinary tract cancer. " Clin

Cancer Res 6(1): 230-6.

 

 

 

 

 

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isoflavones on markers of bone turnover in premenopausal and

postmenopausal women. " J Clin Endocrinol Metab 85(9): 3043-8.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, Neil Jensen <neil@s...>

wrote:

> A direct causal link has been established between soy isoflavones,

thyroid dysfunction and certain types of cancers, including breast

cancer. But don't let that stop you. Just keep on suckin' those

isoflavones down.

>

> Additional Information

<http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_alert.html>

>

> Facts about soy

>

> High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium,

magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not

neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking,

sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused

growth problems in children.

>

> Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may

cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin

inhibitors caused stunted growth.

>

> Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the

potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult

women.

>

> Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause

hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption

of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.

>

> Vitamin B 12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase

the body's requirement for B 12 .

>

> Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.

>

> Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing

to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.

>

> Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic

lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.

>

> Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during

soy food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy

foods.

>

> Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the

nervous system and the kidneys.

>

> <http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_alert.html>

>

> >Jorge,

> >I am taking Revival. It is advertised on Power

> >Surge, a site for women. It is concentrated and

> >patented to deliver the same amount of soy

> >isoflavones (the estrogen part) than 6 servings

> >of soy milk. I don't think it affects the

> >'preference of men' for men, I think that is

> >genetic or mental. Afterall their are men with

> >breasts etc who have them removed so they are

> >more appealing to women. Who one desires in the

> >head. Anyway, their are naturally occuring

> >phytoestrogens in many food sources. Men have

> >estrogen too don't they. I don't know if it is

> >okay for men. I have enough work finding things

> >for my current very difficult health problems.

> >You may be right. Don't know. Stay away from it

> >yourself. It has helped me though. Babies

> >should drink breast milk. Mothers should stay at

> >home until they are weaned. That would be my

> >opinion. barb

>

> --

> Neil Jensen: neil@s...

> The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/

> " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam

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