Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 In a message dated 6/20/2003 9:25:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I make mine pretty strong, about 38 parts per million, which some people say is unnecessary. Duncan Crow How does one make it, and is it safe Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 In a message dated 6/20/2003 9:25:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: us, the attributes of the buck deer growing a rack of horns in an amazing amount of time tells you of the growth factors, the excellent help with arthritis, Sorry, I am NOT going to chew on a deer antler. Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Is there "evidence" of the claimed nutritional and/or therapeutic benefits of antler horn powder? - TWISTEDFOOL Friday, June 20, 2003 8:38 AM Re: Digest Number 536 In a message dated 6/20/2003 9:25:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: us, the attributes of the buck deer growing a rack of horns in an amazing amount of time tells you of the growth factors, the excellent help with arthritis, Sorry, I am NOT going to chew on a deer antler. Michelle «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUSSAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS,GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC.$11.95 For Single or$19.95 For an entire household per month!Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ Email: MEM121«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.**COPYRIGHT NOTICE**In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Yes. Do a web search and you will find that deer antler velvet extract has igf-l in it and that an oral spray does absorb. I have done injections and I have done deer antler velvet and notice the same benefits, only milder with the DAV. I prefer colostrum to both, but they do work. Donna http://www.excellentthings.net - John Polifronio Friday, June 20, 2003 11:37 PM Re: Digest Number 536 Is there "evidence" of the claimed nutritional and/or therapeutic benefits of antler horn powder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Hey there michelle. I swallow ( they slip down easily) a capsule of deer velvet every morning === am age 83, and can match any one of age 45 for agility. The deer antlers are gathered, kept frozen until shipped to the supervised, regulated, and administred by USDA, DEA etc.. and encapsulated at that time. \the Russian and Chinese athletes at the Olympics all had their supplies of deer velvet. it is super great for anti- aging, good for rapid healing of broken bones, sprains, muscle tone, to ward off or minimize osteoporosis. what a gift from nature... no chemical laboratory activities here. . just NATURAL-- cannot get any better than than. The sharks fin is gathered by cutting off their fins, and tossing the shark back into the water. how do you approve of that? If you can get a copy of Betty kamen's book.. . ( Amazon . com has it for 15.00) the title is " the Remarkable healing Power of Deer Antler " ... I can sell you my copy, if you cannot find it locally. m schmidt. www.by2kok.com. At 11:37 PM 6/20/03 -0700, you wrote: >Is there " evidence " of the claimed nutritional and/or therapeutic benefits >of antler horn powder? >>- >><TWISTEDFOOLTWISTEDFOOL >>To: >> >>Friday, June 20, 2003 8:38 AM >>Re: Digest Number 536 >> >>In a message dated 6/20/2003 9:25:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> (AT) (DOT) >>com writes: >> >>>us, the attributes of the buck deer >>>growing a rack of horns in an amazing amount of time tells you of >>>the growth factors, the excellent help with arthritis, >>Sorry, I am NOT going to chew on a deer antler. >>Michelle >> >>«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» >> >>NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUS >>SAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS, >>GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC. >>$11.95 For Single or >>$19.95 For an entire household per month! >>Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period >>Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits >> >><http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/>http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMe >>rrill/ >> >>Email: MEM121 >> >>«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» >> >>§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § >><>/ >>group/ >>Subscribe:......... - >>To :.... - >> >>Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news >>related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a >>qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, >>especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. >>**COPYRIGHT NOTICE** >>In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, >>any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use >>without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in >>receiving the included information for non-profit research and >>educational purposes >>only. >><http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml>http://www.law.cornell.edu >>/uscode/17/107.shtml >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Reply to Josie Message 25. I will be pleased to discuss with you off list. Barbara Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine 02 July 2004 07:11 Chinese Medicine Digest Number 536 There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Hearsay? " Marco Visconti " <agomar 2. R: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins " " <gabrielesaudelli 3. Re: Rules for Certification by Location acudoc11 4. Re: Hearsay? " " < 5. Re: Rules for Certification by Location John Garbarini <johnlg_2000 6. Re: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins <snakeoil.works 7. Re: R: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins " " <attiliodalberto 8. Re: Hearsay? " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <acuheal 9. Ray Rubio L.Ac and his lovely clinic " East Dakota " <eastdakota 10. File - Netiquette.txt Chinese Medicine 11. Re: Hearsay? " " <zrosenbe 12. Re: Hearsay? Kathleen Mathews <kthmathews2003 13. Re: Hearsay? jason davies <jason 14. Re: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen 15. Re: the dragons treatment " stephen macallan " <stephenmacallan 16. Re: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins " " <zrosenbe 17. Re: the dragons treatment " briansbeard " <brian_s_beard 18. Re: Hearsay? " " < 19. Re: the dragons treatment " " < 20. Re: Hearsay? " " < 21. Re: Insurance companies which pay " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <acuheal 22. Re: dental cysts David Akrish <akrish27 23. Re: the dragons treatment " kampo36 " <kampo36 24. glen reins--communication " shannahickle " <shannahickle 25. Re: RE: Digest Number 534 " Josie Donahue Hermes " <medicinemom ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:37:08 +0200 " Marco Visconti " <agomar Re: Hearsay? ID and ED are a form of treatment derived from Worlsey 5E Acupuncture, described also by Lonny Jarrett, is a very effective in tretment of deep disorders (e.g. possession). Marvi - " " < <Chinese Medicine > Thursday, July 01, 2004 1:30 AM Re: Hearsay? > Chinese Medicine , jason davies > <jason@d...> wrote: > > > > > for your interest, there are 2 possession protocols. one is to > release 'internal dragons' - to deal with possessions arising from > internal influences. these points are Ren 15 (actually the command > point 1/4 cun below Ren 15), St25, St32, St41. > > 'External dragons' are Du 20, Du11, Bl 23, Bl61. > > if the patient is ready for this, reactions during treatment can > often be dramatic. > > Where is this from? > > - ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:09:39 +0200 " " <gabrielesaudelli R: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins Hi Silvia! Yes: in an open Trial done last year on more than fifty patients with Monaschs Purpureus Yeast (whose active ingredient is monacholine k, biochemichally very close to lovastatine, ad the daily dosage of 3 to 6 mg. as monacoline, as tablets of Monascus purpureus yeast mg. 597= 1,5 mg. monacholine ) we recorded the same adverse reactions as muscle pain and transaminasis " movement " (and CPK), as statins. However " natural " side effects seems to be the same as in synthetic drugs. In this list was suggested the use of Policosanols, that are side effects free, even if the time to gain a netter Cholesterine score is just a bit longer (about a month and a half more). If you wish, and if Attilio permits it, I can send to the list a large amounts of abstracts comcerning Policosanols. Best regards, , Bologna-Italy -----Messaggio originale----- Da: STawse [sTawse] Inviato: mercoledì 30 giugno 2004 12.54 A: Chinese Medicine Oggetto: Re: RE: Acupuncture for side effects of statins Hi Susie, Does red rice yeast has the same effect as statins? I am taken red rice yeast with hawthorn and Co-Enzyme Q10 (all in capsule form) since a year ago. I had noticed that my lips had become purple in color, However my tongue is ok. Does any one knows if there is red rice yeast side effect? My mother has been taken the same capsule for one year but died of heart attack two months after she stopped taken red rice yeast. Your reply will be appreciated Thanks Silvia Tawse Medical Herbalist Quoting Susie Parkinson <susie: > If your patient insists on taking statins when he clearly has side > effects, > then I recommend he takes a Co-Enzyme Q10 supplement daily as statins > do > deplete this. There is some evidence to suggest that statins contribute > to > chronic heart failure. Statins also have a detrimental effect on the > liver > and the symptoms you describe could be related to liver/Gb syndromes, so > I > would look there to help with side effects. Points such as GB34, Liv 8, > Liv > 3. > regards > Susie > > Message: 8 > > Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:51:42 +0000 > > " Stephen Lamade " <lhommedieu > > Acupuncture for side effects of statins. > > > > Does anyone have any advice? I have a patient who is experiencing > the > > following side-effects from taking statins to lower hereditiary high > > cholesterol: mild buring sensation in the soles of both feet, > > intermittent > > mild pain in his ankles and knees, and some mild muscle cramping. > > > > He is willing to try herbal treatments in the future but wants to see > how > > effective the statin (Crestor) can be before he switches over to an > > alternative method. In the meantime, he would like some relief from > the > > side-effects. > > > > Best, > > > > Steve Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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