re:MS/Fibromyalgia.

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

 

Stress has been found in medical studies to be a component in dis-ease

and the strength of the immune system. I do feel with all dis-ease,

the body is sending messages to us to balance our lives. If you read

the work of medical intuitives (people who can scan your energy field

and see blockages - some know the organs very well and have been

tested by physicians to be 95%+ accurate in diagnosis), they all point

to the

emotional/ mental causation of dis-ease.

 

Caroline Myss, medical intuitive & author, has a Discussion Forums and

fibromyalgia and coeliac dis-ease have both been brought up in some

discussion threads. The Forums are search enabled so you can search

the archives or post a new topic:

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/

If you are interested, you may want to do a search on fibromyalgia,

CFIDS, coeliac, immune disorders, etc. and see what discussions come

up or post a new topic.

 

For instance, the following discussions come up when fibromyalgia is

put in the search engine:

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000016.html

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum1/HTML/000068.html

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000002.html

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum3/HTML/000038.html

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000046.html

http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000128.html

 

Another good site to find research and products is:

www.immunesupport.com

 

Many blessings,

MichelleH

 

 

>

> schiemer

> I noticed a couple of people on the list have fibromyalgia

> which I also

> was diagnosed with until I changed my diet and found I probably had

> coeliac disease. Coeliac disease could have manifested in

> any number of

> ways but it manifested as fibromualgia in me.

> Coeliac is an intolerance to gluten in wheat, rye, oats and barley

>

> Am in stages of healing yet recognise a real fear in my

> subconscious about planning for the future.

>

> So which comes first? The chicken or the egg? The

> intolerance or the emotional block?

>

> The idea that the subconscious can harbour inhibiting feelings that

> contribute to ill health is an interesting one.

>

> Can anyone with fibromyalgia recognise a feeling that they

> really do not

> want to live this life, that it's too emotionally painful? Yet

> determination to deal with things is very strong.

> I can

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary

 

Thats a fairly acute observation.

 

I noticed a couple of people on the list have fibromyalgia which I also

was diagnosed with until I changed my diet and found I probably had

coeliac disease. Coeliac disease could have manifested in any number of

ways but it manifested as fibromualgia in me.

Coeliac is an intolerance to gluten in wheat, rye, oats and barley

 

Am in stages of healing yet recognise a real fear in my subconscious about

planning for the future.

 

So which comes first? The chicken or the egg? The intolerance or the

emotional block?

 

The idea that the subconscious can harbour inhibiting feelings that

contribute to ill health is an interesting one.

 

Can anyone with fibromyalgia recognise a feeling that they really do not

want to live this life, that it's too emotionally painful? Yet

determination to deal with things is very strong.

I can

 

regards

Liz

 

 

Mary Anne wrote.

>I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind over matter after

>listening to Annette Funicello and speaking with a woman who was in the

>last stages of it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a

>compulsive house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down resentment

>towards Disney and a psych doctor who told her she was too sweet. My

>theory is is that it evolves from a headstrong desire to do what one

>thinks is good and right surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary

>syndrome. Annette was never able to realize her own indoctrinated

>attitude andbelief which more than likely was the reason Disney selected

>her was in fact her downfall and instead raged a campaign of abuse

>andwomens rights. The other woman I met, although she knew she was also

>so very proud of her clean house for her grandkids and would prpbably do

>it al over again. I have read in The Course in Miracles that the main

>reason we do not heal is just that, that we will go back and do thesame

>thing. My suggesstion therefore is more humility, submission to self and

>being a little more laid back. Some of us tend to put our foot down in

>the wrong place for the wrong reason and believe me I am guilty of that as

>well. I often want to do something for all sorts of socially and

>emotionally responsible reasons while another voice inside me is saying

> " no " and it seems as though that voice is an enemy out to defeat me and I

>want to rail against it feeling resentful. There are other more important

>issues at hand not even yet conscious or not being taken seriously. It is

>important to have faith at this time and trust that our values need

>readjusting.

>

>Mary Anne

[Guest guest]

At 06:38 AM 9/5/00 +1000, you wrote:

>Can anyone with fibromyalgia recognise a feeling that they really do not

>want to live this life, that it's too emotionally painful? Yet

>determination to deal with things is very strong.

> I can

>

>regards

>Liz

 

 

I don't think in my case it is really a feeling of not wanting to live this

life but there is an element of extreme frustration involved. I know that

for me, I have a very strong need for touch in my life. My fibromyalgia all

but disappears when I am involved with people who are very into hugging,

cuddling, massage etc.

 

I have been married twice, this second time for 16 years. Both husbands

started out the marriage with a constant need to touch me and be with me.

This of course satisfied my needs perfectly and life was good for a while.

Both however are extremely self-centered in nature and once the " honeymoon "

was over (about two years the first time and five the second time) both

withdrew into themselves, leaving me living a life basically alone. For a

long time I blamed myself. What had I done wrong to cause them to not want

me any longer? Was I so terrible or ugly or what? Through much inner work

and honesty with myself, I have come to realize that I have basically

nothing to do with their reaction. It wouldn't have mattered if it had been

me or another woman. I am still sort of in contact with my ex (we have a

son) and I have watched the same pattern occur in his second marriage as

well. These men are basically only willing to step outside of themselves

long enough to feel that they have secured their " prize " and then choose to

live a disconnected life that focuses only on their needs. Unfortunately

for me in both cases sex was not high on either of their priority lists so I

am basically denied even that small amount of closeness.

 

It has taken about 12 years for me to actually sort through everything and

determine that my pain results from the lack of touch in my life and to

determine that I was not at fault in the case of their withdrawal from " an

intimate " life. I am a " fixer " in general so I have to assume that a part

of me saw in them something that I thought I could correct...felt that I

could help them reconnect to life in all its fullness. It has been a hard

lesson to learn that the only one I can " fix " is myself. So I am now on

that journey. I don't know where it will lead nor do I really need to know.

I have found that simply taking things one day at a time and dealing with

the " NOW " is the most prudent course for me. Currently though the pain is

sufficient to keep me from working...was fired from my last job of 12 years

for having fibromyalgia...I am staying off my pain meds and dealing with

life the best that I can. I decided that I would rather be " awake " and hurt

than to wander around doped up. I am using flower essenses to help bring the

issues to the forefront that need dealing with and am finally saying " no " to

giving so much of myself without receiving anything in return.

 

Bright Blessings,

 

Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

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